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Trump's Definitely a Liar and Probably Corrupt.

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Nope. Pretty sure I know what it means. Is this not the ultimate goal of @Spamature's crazed five times daily screeds?

trea·son
ˈtrēzən/
noun
  1. the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.
    "they were convicted of treason"
    synonyms: treachery, disloyalty, betrayal, faithlessness;
So you are pretty sure that Spamature is trying to overthrow the government?
 

Jen

Senator
Comey confirmed he has no evidence of Trump being wiretapped by Obama. AND the FBI is investigating Trump's collusion with Russia.
It won't be long before he hangs his in shame as he gets trotted out of the White House in handcuffs. Impeachment will surely follow.
Yes.
Trump is probably a liar and he's most likely corrupt.
SO WHAT?
Comey was parsing words. And guess what............ Comey is probably a liar and is most likely corrupt.

Obama, Bush, and Clinton, plus many if not all other presidents most probably were liars and almost definitely were corrupt.

THAT is not grounds for impeachment. Clinton was impeached not because of being a liar or being corrupt ......but for lying under oath. That is impeachable. His other lies didn't get him impeached. Only the ones under specific oath.

Get over it.
Grow up and move on, @ObamacareForever . Don't hang onto this idiocy and make yourself into a joke.
 

Boca

Governor
Comey confirmed he has no evidence of Trump being wiretapped by Obama. AND the FBI is investigating Trump's collusion with Russia.
Comey wouldn't have evidence. Wiretapping is old school, no one wires up phone boxes like G-men used to do. Trench coats and pliers went out a long time ago.

The NSA on the other hand is another 21st century tech story. Everything is in the ether and they grab it 24/7 automatically. All one has to do is ask for it....I'm thinking only a president can do that without getting a court's permission.

Think about what that means, you go to the FISA court for permission to proceed when most of what you want is already available by request. Does the court know or even care what you did? No!

What do you think...if you ever do that?
 
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Yes.
Trump is probably a liar and he's most likely corrupt.
SO WHAT?
Comey was parsing words. And guess what............ Comey is probably a liar and is most likely corrupt.

Obama, Bush, and Clinton, plus many if not all other presidents most probably were liars and almost definitely were corrupt.

THAT is not grounds for impeachment. Clinton was impeached not because of being a liar or being corrupt ......but for lying under oath. That is impeachable. His other lies didn't get him impeached. Only the ones under specific oath.

Get over it.
Grow up and move on, @ObamacareForever . Don't hang onto this idiocy and make yourself into a joke.
I know accountability is a virtue lost on the right-wing. But Trump will be held accountable, his agenda is DOA in congress, and the republican inability to govern will govern will cost them their seats in 2018 and 2020.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
I know accountability is a virtue lost on the right-wing. But Trump will be held accountable, his agenda is DOA in congress, and the republican inability to govern will govern will cost them their seats in 2018 and 2020.
is English your second language............."republican inability to govern will govern will cost them their seats"

Place your BETS now on 2018-20120________________________GO
 
is English your second language............."republican inability to govern will govern will cost them their seats"

Place your BETS now on 2018-20120________________________GO
Trumpcare... either passing or failing to pass(the more likely scenario) will cost them their majority in the house.
 

EatTheRich

President
"Comey confirmed he has no evidence of Trump being wiretapped by Obama. AND the FBI is investigating Trump's collusion with Russia."

He did indeed. From a USA Today story published at 1:44 PM will confirm;

"The FBI and the Justice Department have no information to support" President Trump's claims that the Obama administration had tapped Trump's offices during the campaign, Comey said.

The problem is the REST of your loony-lib by fantasy about Russia and Trump "stealing" the election from poor wittle 'ol billary when it was her turn, damnit.

"It won't be long before he hangs his in shame as he gets trotted out of the White House in handcuffs. Impeachment will surely follow."

See, that very same USA Today story published at 1:44 PM ALSO stated;

"Comey and Rogers both said they were not aware of any evidence that any votes in the election were changed because of interference from Russia."

So which time are we to take these clowns at the word and which time should we write it off as they merely "misspoke"?

Basically you on the left are doing just like you are howling about Trump doing....Just CLAIM a wrong has been committed and go with it for as long as you can without ever actually proving it to be so.
No evidence votes were changed (as in physical tabulation was altered) is not the same as no evidence of a campaign to sway voters.
 

EatTheRich

President
No, because I went and read the emails. There was nothing there. The headlines breathlessly exclaimed "Smoking Gun"...couldn't find anything in the emails worth
fretting about.

But then, I had already decided I wasn't voting for either Hillary or Trump, for other reasons.
Biggest smoking gun in the emails = Clinton campaign tried behind the scenes to promote Trump, Cruz, and Carson in an effort to push Republican field to take "radical" positions that made them unelectable
 

EatTheRich

President
No, because I went and read the emails. There was nothing there. The headlines breathlessly exclaimed "Smoking Gun"...couldn't find anything in the emails worth
fretting about.

But then, I had already decided I wasn't voting for either Hillary or Trump, for other reasons.
Did you vote for someone else, or not vote at all?
 

EatTheRich

President
Nope. Pretty sure I know what it means. Is this not the ultimate goal of @Spamature's crazed five times daily screeds?

trea·son
ˈtrēzən/
noun
  1. the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.
    "they were convicted of treason"
    synonyms: treachery, disloyalty, betrayal, faithlessness;
That's not the legal definition according to the U.S. Constitution.
 
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EatTheRich

President
Yes.
Trump is probably a liar and he's most likely corrupt.
SO WHAT?
Comey was parsing words. And guess what............ Comey is probably a liar and is most likely corrupt.

Obama, Bush, and Clinton, plus many if not all other presidents most probably were liars and almost definitely were corrupt.

THAT is not grounds for impeachment. Clinton was impeached not because of being a liar or being corrupt ......but for lying under oath. That is impeachable. His other lies didn't get him impeached. Only the ones under specific oath.

Get over it.
Grow up and move on, @ObamacareForever . Don't hang onto this idiocy and make yourself into a joke.
It doesn't bother you that you advocate unquestioning deference on virtually all policy issues and uncritical acceptance of everything he says as gospel truth until proven otherwise to a man you deem a corrupt liar?
 

EatTheRich

President
Comey wouldn't have evidence. Wiretapping is old school, no one wires up phone boxes like G-men used to do. Trench coats and pliers went out a long time ago.

The NSA on the other hand is another 21st century tech story. Everything is in the ether and they grab it 24/7 automatically. All one has to do is ask for it....I'm thinking only a president can do that without getting a court's permission.

Think about what that means, you go to the FISA court for permission to proceed when most of what you want is already available by request. Does the court know or even care what you did? No!

What do you think...if you ever do that?
Repeal FISA, National Security Act, Internal Subversion Act, etc.! Disband the Nsafbicomplex!
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Biggest smoking gun in the emails = Clinton campaign tried behind the scenes to promote Trump, Cruz, and Carson in an effort to push Republican field to take "radical" positions that made them unelectable
Do you have a link to the email you say shows they tried to promote those republicans?
Given that it would not be a "smoking gun" in any case...did you know that there have been, in the past, efforts to re-register voters so that they could vote in the other parties primary and get the worst possible (easiest to beat) candidate to go up against? I've never known who was responsible, but I've seen it on both sides.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Nope. Pretty sure I know what it means. Is this not the ultimate goal of @Spamature's crazed five times daily screeds?

trea·son
ˈtrēzən/
noun
  1. the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.
    "they were convicted of treason"
    synonyms: treachery, disloyalty, betrayal, faithlessness;
Now look up the word "Overthrow". "Forcibly remove from power".
 

EatTheRich

President
Do you have a link to the email you say shows they tried to promote those republicans?
Given that it would not be a "smoking gun" in any case...did you know that there have been, in the past, efforts to re-register voters so that they could vote in the other parties primary and get the worst possible (easiest to beat) candidate to go up against? I've never known who was responsible, but I've seen it on both sides.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/leaked-memo-shows-democrats-targeting-trump-before-he-was-a-candidate-manipulating-election/
 

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