Trump tees up his impeachment proceedings...

[Bugsy McGurk]

He outright denied asking Comey to end the Flynn investigation, and he tried to browbeat Comey into being "loyal" to Trump and not investigating Trump. That obstruction of justice having failed, he fired Comey.

For good measure, we then had Trump bragging to the Kremlin reps about the great intel he gets, at which time he gave them ultra classified intel given to us on the QT by Israel.

The evidence that Trump is outright lying about all these things will be overwhelming. The only real question is how many GOP House and Senate members will be willing to turn a blind eye to the high crimes and misdemeanors (and don't forget Trump's daily violations of the Emoluments Clause).

Trump is a bold liar indeed, but he can't lie his way out of the massive mess he made.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/19/politics/donald-trump-comey-denial/index.html

 

[Number_58]

I absolutely approve of impeachment hearings...I hope the Democrats get what they want and are able to remove him from office.

You guys will love the guy that replaces him.

 

[georgephillip]

He outright denied asking Comey to end the Flynn investigation, and he tried to browbeat Comey into being "loyal" to Trump and not investigating Trump. That obstruction of justice having failed, he fired Comey.

Now we know why Team Trump waited so long before responding to the Comey memo; from this point on, Trump is on record as denying any attempt to quash the Flynn investigation. He is about to find out why he can't run government as a business.

 

[Addy]

He outright denied asking Comey to end the Flynn investigation, and he tried to browbeat Comey into being "loyal" to Trump and not investigating Trump. That obstruction of justice having failed, he fired Comey.

For good measure, we then had Trump bragging to the Kremlin reps about the great intel he gets, at which time he gave them ultra classified intel given to us on the QT by Israel.

The evidence that Trump is outright lying about all these things will be overwhelming. The only real question is how many GOP House and Senate members will be willing to turn a blind eye to the high crimes and misdemeanors (and don't forget Trump's daily violations of the Emoluments Clause).

Trump is a bold liar indeed, but he can't lie his way out of the massive mess he made.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/19/politics/donald-trump-comey-denial/index.html

You know what they say, it's not the crime that will do you in, it's the cover up.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

I absolutely approve of impeachment hearings...I hope the Democrats get what they want and are able to remove him from office.

You guys will love the guy that replaces him.

Pence? He might get tossed too in a package deal.

;-)

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

You know what they say, it's not the crime that will do you in, it's the cover up.

Absolutely. And no one lies and covers up more than Trump.

He teed up his own impeachment.

 

[Corruptbuddha]

He outright denied asking Comey to end the Flynn investigation, and he tried to browbeat Comey into being "loyal" to Trump and not investigating Trump. That obstruction of justice having failed, he fired Comey.

For good measure, we then had Trump bragging to the Kremlin reps about the great intel he gets, at which time he gave them ultra classified intel given to us on the QT by Israel.

The evidence that Trump is outright lying about all these things will be overwhelming. The only real question is how many GOP House and Senate members will be willing to turn a blind eye to the high crimes and misdemeanors (and don't forget Trump's daily violations of the Emoluments Clause).

Trump is a bold liar indeed, but he can't lie his way out of the massive mess he made.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/19/politics/donald-trump-comey-denial/index.html

I don't think he'll be impeached. If he is, I don't think he'll be removed from office. BUT....I didn't think he'd ever get elected so my track record is a little shaky.

I did, however, predict the Falcons would blow their half-time lead.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

I don't think he'll be impeached. If he is, I don't think he'll be removed from office. BUT....I didn't think he'd ever get elected so my track record is a little shaky.

I did, however, predict the Falcons would blow their half-time lead.

I don't think so either. His ego could not stand being impeached. I think he'll resign when the heat gets too intense.

Good call on the Falcons.

 

[Dawg]

Absolutely. And no one lies and covers up more than Trump.

He teed up his own impeachment.

Impeach, Trump will join other 2 Impeached=Johnson and Clinton

Strange, these impeachable offenses never bothered libs, well, second thought, not surprised:

https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2014/06/07/5-high-crimes-and-misdemeanors-for-which-obama-deserves-to-be-impeached-n1848801

 

[Dawg]

I don't think so either. His ego could not stand being impeached. I think he'll resign when the heat gets too intense.

Good call on the Falcons.

You don't think so either......but have how many dozen top post saying he will☻

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Impeach, Trump will join other 2 Impeached=Johnson and Clinton

Strange, these impeachable offenses never bothered libs, well, second thought, not surprised:

https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2014/06/07/5-high-crimes-and-misdemeanors-for-which-obama-deserves-to-be-impeached-n1848801

ZOOM!

Off he goes!

;-)

 

[EatTheRich]

I don't think he'll be impeached. If he is, I don't think he'll be removed from office. BUT....I didn't think he'd ever get elected so my track record is a little shaky.

I did, however, predict the Falcons would blow their half-time lead.

Same here ... I don't think he'll be removed from office (I do think he'll be impeached though), but I also didn't think he'd be elected (although that was a lot of wishful thinking).

 

[Arkady]

He outright denied asking Comey to end the Flynn investigation, and he tried to browbeat Comey into being "loyal" to Trump and not investigating Trump. That obstruction of justice having failed, he fired Comey.

For good measure, we then had Trump bragging to the Kremlin reps about the great intel he gets, at which time he gave them ultra classified intel given to us on the QT by Israel.

The evidence that Trump is outright lying about all these things will be overwhelming. The only real question is how many GOP House and Senate members will be willing to turn a blind eye to the high crimes and misdemeanors (and don't forget Trump's daily violations of the Emoluments Clause).

Trump is a bold liar indeed, but he can't lie his way out of the massive mess he made.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/19/politics/donald-trump-comey-denial/index.html

The problem is that it's all about power. There's no honest question, at this point, about the fact that Trump committed multiple impeachable offenses. Even if we ultimately find that he didn't directly collude with the Russians, we already have smoking-gun evidence (even Trump's own words) showing that he obstructed justice. If he were a Democrat, the impeachment would already be underway. But he's not a Democrat. He's a Republican, and the Republicans in Congress will stand by him loyally, no matter what he does, until they come to think that there will be a higher political price for staying with him than for abandoning him. And as long as the right-wing yahoos in their districts are willing to excuse any misconduct by Trump, that's not going to happen.

 

[Arkady]

I did, however, predict the Falcons would blow their half-time lead.

Wow! I've gotta admit, I didn't see that coming. I even gave up on the game part way through the third -- starting to get ready for bed -- and only checked in a few minutes later out of curiosity, to see the beginning of the comeback.

Anyway, I'm reluctant to make predictions about political things, because I don't think much like the average person, so I don't think I do a very good job modeling the average person's behavior in my head. That said, I did a better job than most of the people on the left when it came to Trump, I think. I never wrote him off. Here's my last comment on it before the election, in which I said I was not terribly confident:

https://www.politicaljack.com/threads/chelsea-clinton.97271/#post-1739138

The polls still put this very close -- just 2.5 points in Clinton's favor, average. That's within the margin of error of polling averages, historically. In 2012, Obama had a polling average lead of 0.7 and won by 3.9, meaning we have recent history with polls being off 3.2 points. Granted, that time they underestimated the Democrat, but in theory they could be underestimating Trump this time. And Trump does have the built-in Republican advantage in the electoral college (from smaller states having disproportionate voting power -- more Dems live in big states).
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In retrospect, I think that analysis holds up pretty well. The polls were off slightly, and slightly was all it took with the built-in Republican advantage in the electoral college.

 

[Dawg]

ZOOM!

Off he goes!

;-)

So you can't disapprove what I posted and just

DODGE

 

[Dawg]

The problem is that it's all about power. There's no honest question, at this point, about the fact that Trump committed multiple impeachable offenses. Even if we ultimately find that he didn't directly collude with the Russians, we already have smoking-gun evidence (even Trump's own words) showing that he obstructed justice. If he were a Democrat, the impeachment would already be underway. But he's not a Democrat. He's a Republican, and the Republicans in Congress will stand by him loyally, no matter what he does, until they come to think that there will be a higher political price for staying with him than for abandoning him. And as long as the right-wing yahoos in their districts are willing to excuse any misconduct by Trump, that's not going to happen.

Like Θ's

https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2014/06/07/5-high-crimes-and-misdemeanors-for-which-obama-deserves-to-be-impeached-n1848801

 

[Number_58]

Pence? He might get tossed too in a package deal.

;-)

Pence, Ryan, Hatch, Tillerton...should I keep going until I come across someone in the succession line that you do like?

May take a while...

 

[Arkady]

Impeach, Trump will join other 2 Impeached=Johnson and Clinton

Strange, these impeachable offenses never bothered libs, well, second thought, not surprised:

https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2014/06/07/5-high-crimes-and-misdemeanors-for-which-obama-deserves-to-be-impeached-n1848801

Take a look at that list and you should see why the case against Trump is so much stronger. Most of the charges that your Town Hall propagandist levels against Obama are things that could be leveled against Trump, too, yet the very real impeachable offenses Trump has committed are so serious and obvious that people on the left don't even have to include such strained attempts to find something impeachable.

For example, consider the executive changes to Obamacare -- Trump has done that, too, using executive orders to alter the enforcement of Obamcare mechanisms. With regard to the "illegal war in Libya," Trump has his in Syria, where the US is carrying out uses of military force without congressional approval and with no clear national security interest. Lying to sell Obamacare? How about Trump lying that his health care would cover everybody, when in fact the CBO says it will cover far fewer people? Non-enforcement of immigration laws -- Trump is not enforcing Obamacare mandates.

You'll notice people on the left aren't even bringing that kind of thing up when it comes to impeachment talk. We get that there's a difference between "political behavior we find despicable" and an "impeachable offense." Trump's dishonest claim that his healthcare would cover everyone was despicable, but not impeachable. His obstruction of justice is impeachable.

 

[Arkady]

Pence, Ryan, Hatch, Tillerton...should I keep going until I come across someone in the succession line that you do like?

May take a while...

Assuming Pence wasn't stupid enough to get himself mixed up in the Russia contacts and obstruction of justice, which I'm betting he wasn't, he'd become president. Nobody on the left is going to like that much, since he's a vicious, theocratic thug. But he's also sane, so it would be an improvement. It would very likely return us to something more like the usual democratic process, rather than the current chaos where we've just got to cross our fingers and hope Trump doesn't get his feelings hurt and start WWIII in a quest for higher ratings.

 

[Drumcollie]

BOMBSHELL: It's