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Trump tees up his impeachment proceedings...

Drumcollie

* See DC's list of Kook posters*
Assuming Pence wasn't stupid enough to get himself mixed up in the Russia contacts and obstruction of justice, which I'm betting he wasn't, he'd become president. Nobody on the left is going to like that much, since he's a vicious, theocratic thug. But he's also sane, so it would be an improvement. It would very likely return us to something more like the usual democratic process, rather than the current chaos where we've just got to cross our fingers and hope Trump doesn't get his feelings hurt and start WWIII in a quest for higher ratings.
Assuming you wasn't stupid enough to post fake news, which I am betting you were. you would become you...no better than any other lying @ss liberal with a sign on a street in Oakland.
 

Corruptbuddha

Governor
Wow! I've gotta admit, I didn't see that coming. I even gave up on the game part way through the third -- starting to get ready for bed -- and only checked in a few minutes later out of curiosity, to see the beginning of the comeback.

Anyway, I'm reluctant to make predictions about political things, because I don't think much like the average person, so I don't think I do a very good job modeling the average person's behavior in my head. That said, I did a better job than most of the people on the left when it came to Trump, I think. I never wrote him off. Here's my last comment on it before the election, in which I said I was not terribly confident:

https://www.politicaljack.com/threads/chelsea-clinton.97271/#post-1739138

The polls still put this very close -- just 2.5 points in Clinton's favor, average. That's within the margin of error of polling averages, historically. In 2012, Obama had a polling average lead of 0.7 and won by 3.9, meaning we have recent history with polls being off 3.2 points. Granted, that time they underestimated the Democrat, but in theory they could be underestimating Trump this time. And Trump does have the built-in Republican advantage in the electoral college (from smaller states having disproportionate voting power -- more Dems live in big states).
In retrospect, I think that analysis holds up pretty well. The polls were off slightly, and slightly was all it took with the built-in Republican advantage in the electoral college.
Well, in all honesty, i've been a Falcons fan for 40 years. I've seen this happen before against the Dallas Cowboys in the 1980 playoffs . I've had that team break my heart more times than you can shake a stick at.

As to Trump, I actually said and I quote "he doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning"
 

Drumcollie

* See DC's list of Kook posters*
Take a look at that list and you should see why the case against Trump is so much stronger.

Ummm I noticed you did not post a list...so let's guess that you are correct, which still would be a first, there is really nothing "not faked" to look at.
 

Drumcollie

* See DC's list of Kook posters*
Wow! I've gotta admit, I didn't see that coming. I even gave up on the game part way through the third -- starting to get ready for bed -- and only checked in a few minutes later out of curiosity, to see the beginning of the comeback.

Anyway, I'm reluctant to make predictions about political things, because I don't think much like the average person, so I don't think I do a very good job modeling the average person's behavior in my head. That said, I did a better job than most of the people on the left when it came to Trump, I think. I never wrote him off. Here's my last comment on it before the election, in which I said I was not terribly confident:

https://www.politicaljack.com/threads/chelsea-clinton.97271/#post-1739138

The polls still put this very close -- just 2.5 points in Clinton's favor, average. That's within the margin of error of polling averages, historically. In 2012, Obama had a polling average lead of 0.7 and won by 3.9, meaning we have recent history with polls being off 3.2 points. Granted, that time they underestimated the Democrat, but in theory they could be underestimating Trump this time. And Trump does have the built-in Republican advantage in the electoral college (from smaller states having disproportionate voting power -- more Dems live in big states).
In retrospect, I think that analysis holds up pretty well. The polls were off slightly, and slightly was all it took with the built-in Republican advantage in the electoral college.
2.5 favorites??? Last time that punk Clinton who defends her husband Bill raping women had a 10 point lead and her ass lost in the biggest comeback beat down in the history of the United States Presidential election.

I suggest that you keep polling in L.A. and NYC like that is a representation of all America. We find you analysis to be sub standard. What next storing cryogenic material in a square container?
 

Drumcollie

* See DC's list of Kook posters*
Now we know why Team Trump waited so long before responding to the Comey memo; from this point on, Trump is on record as denying any attempt to quash the Flynn investigation. He is about to find out why he can't run government as a business.
Based on the links you have provided...we find this to be:

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Even the lefty buddies you think you have here don't buy that crap, though they won't admit it. You guys wearing tin foil are funny.
 

Arkady

President
Ummm I noticed you did not post a list...so let's guess that you are correct, which still would be a first, there is really nothing "not faked" to look at.
I'm referring to the list in the article linked to in the post to which I was replying.
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
He outright denied asking Comey to end the Flynn investigation, and he tried to browbeat Comey into being "loyal" to Trump and not investigating Trump. That obstruction of justice having failed, he fired Comey.

For good measure, we then had Trump bragging to the Kremlin reps about the great intel he gets, at which time he gave them ultra classified intel given to us on the QT by Israel.

The evidence that Trump is outright lying about all these things will be overwhelming. The only real question is how many GOP House and Senate members will be willing to turn a blind eye to the high crimes and misdemeanors (and don't forget Trump's daily violations of the Emoluments Clause).

Trump is a bold liar indeed, but he can't lie his way out of the massive mess he made.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/19/politics/donald-trump-comey-denial/index.html
Can you hook me up with your 'dro connection? That's some killer sh!t you've been smoking. Good luck.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Pence, Ryan, Hatch, Tillerton...should I keep going until I come across someone in the succession line that you do like?

May take a while...
It would take you quite a while.

But if I had to choose from among your rogue's gallery, I suppose I would pick Paul Ryan.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
The problem is that it's all about power. There's no honest question, at this point, about the fact that Trump committed multiple impeachable offenses. Even if we ultimately find that he didn't directly collude with the Russians, we already have smoking-gun evidence (even Trump's own words) showing that he obstructed justice. If he were a Democrat, the impeachment would already be underway. But he's not a Democrat. He's a Republican, and the Republicans in Congress will stand by him loyally, no matter what he does, until they come to think that there will be a higher political price for staying with him than for abandoning him. And as long as the right-wing yahoos in their districts are willing to excuse any misconduct by Trump, that's not going to happen.
Yup. Impeachment is a political process, not a legal process. I do think the Trumpstench will get so bad that they start impeachment proceedings, at which time Trump will resign.
 

Number_58

I'm one of the deplorables lefty warns you about.
It would take you quite a while.

But if I had to choose from among your rogue's gallery, I suppose I would pick Paul Ryan.
Not my "rogue's gallery"...I don't have much use for any of them...it's the Constitutional gallery.

And I love the Constitution...
 

Arkady

President
Yup. Impeachment is a political process, not a legal process. I do think the Trumpstench will get so bad that they start impeachment proceedings, at which time Trump will resign.
We'll see. The last year has really forced me to rethink my understanding of the GOP. I used to think of it as a party with a number of sacred cows that they wouldn't tolerate being gored. But Trump has gored most of those already. He even went so far as to slight POWs, for Christ's sake! He's bad-mouthed Reagan, approved of partial-birth abortion, lambasted our military brass, trashed free trade, fellated the Russian leadership, etc., and none of it disqualified him in the eyes of the Republicans -- at worst, he had to make some unconvincing perfunctory flip-flops, as on abortion. There are still a few sacred cows he's observed, like unquestioning fealty to Likud, but even there he's paid no price for stepping on what I would previously have assumed was a third rail (e.g., not even mentioning Jews when discussing the Holocaust). I'm starting to think there's really only one true sacred cow for Republicans: upper class tax cuts. If a politician dares to cross them on that (as GHW Bush did), they'll effectively throw him out, but as long as they see a politician as helping to lower the taxes of the very rich, he can get away with anything else. So, all the collusion and obstruction of justice in the world won't matter, as long as he's seen as continuing to work for the plutocrats.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
We'll see. The last year has really forced me to rethink my understanding of the GOP. I used to think of it as a party with a number of sacred cows that they wouldn't tolerate being gored. But Trump has gored most of those already. He even went so far as to slight POWs, for Christ's sake! He's bad-mouthed Reagan, approved of partial-birth abortion, lambasted our military brass, trashed free trade, fellated the Russian leadership, etc., and none of it disqualified him in the eyes of the Republicans -- at worst, he had to make some unconvincing perfunctory flip-flops, as on abortion. There are still a few sacred cows he's observed, like unquestioning fealty to Likud, but even there he's paid no price for stepping on what I would previously have assumed was a third rail (e.g., not even mentioning Jews when discussing the Holocaust). I'm starting to think there's really only one true sacred cow for Republicans: upper class tax cuts. If a politician dares to cross them on that (as GHW Bush did), they'll effectively throw him out, but as long as they see a politician as helping to lower the taxes of the very rich, he can get away with anything else. So, all the collusion and obstruction of justice in the world won't matter, as long as he's seen as continuing to work for the plutocrats.
The GOP is corrupt to it very core. And they are amazingly skilled at brainwashing gullible Americans into supporting them, principally through the use of fear and loathing.
 
Based on the links you have provided...we find this to be:

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Even the lefty buddies you think you have here don't buy that crap, though they won't admit it. You guys wearing tin foil are funny.
"Poll: Trump approval sinks to new low
BY MARK HENSCH - 05/19/17 07:46 AM EDT"

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/334187-poll-trump-approval-sinks-to-new-low

"President Trump’s approval rating has fallen to a new low as registered voters raise concerns about his leadership, according to a poll released Friday.

"Fifty-three percent disapprove of Trump in the Morning Consult/Politico survey released Friday, and 41 percent approve.

"Morning Consult said it is the third time Trump's approval rating has reached a fresh low this month, falling from 44 percent on May 4 and 42 percent on May 12.

"Pollsters found that 50 percent do not think Trump is able to serve as commander in chief, while 40 percent consider him capable.

"Fifty-four percent say Trump lacks the judgment to be president, and 34 percent disagree."

Four months in and a majority of Americans have already noticed Trump lacks the judgment to be president; when will your eyes open?

:confused:
How important is the devastation to you?
 

Drumcollie

* See DC's list of Kook posters*
"Poll: Trump approval sinks to new low
BY MARK HENSCH - 05/19/17 07:46 AM EDT"

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/334187-poll-trump-approval-sinks-to-new-low

"President Trump’s approval rating has fallen to a new low as registered voters raise concerns about his leadership, according to a poll released Friday.

"Fifty-three percent disapprove of Trump in the Morning Consult/Politico survey released Friday, and 41 percent approve.

"Morning Consult said it is the third time Trump's approval rating has reached a fresh low this month, falling from 44 percent on May 4 and 42 percent on May 12.

"Pollsters found that 50 percent do not think Trump is able to serve as commander in chief, while 40 percent consider him capable.

"Fifty-four percent say Trump lacks the judgment to be president, and 34 percent disagree."

Four months in and a majority of Americans have already noticed Trump lacks the judgment to be president; when will your eyes open?

:confused:
How important is the devastation to you?

I am a Republican, we just fix up your hitlerite socialist eff-ups like Obama's 10 trillion of debt and Hillary selling out to the Roooooskies with Uranium One. So how important is what devastation from your fake news? Not very.
 
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