the genesis of civilization
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Days
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The bloodshed, plagues, and wars in the lands of Christendom are possibly the ugliest times that man ever walked the earth. It seems this God of love has an ugly side. An all powerful God has no excuse for allowing all that.
Pre-historic = prior to writing = anything before 6000 yrs ago.
We imagine pre-historic horrors because our historic horrors were so awful. But it appears mankind prior to Adam was a much better creature. Notice in Genesis chapter one, God replenishes the earth with a type of man he describes as "very good". This was roughly a quarter million years ago.
What we live with today is exactly the opposite of that first replanting. If I had to describe the last 2000 years of humanity, I would go with "very evil".
something changed
Days
Commentator
I rather doubt they are thinking that, those politics are planted by the Mossad to paint "the enemy" as bad guys... same old tactics of warfare.
When we turn from God, he backs away........... when we revile Him and scorn his Word, he backs further away until finally, he leaves us to our own demise at the mercy of the hatred of each other ( which at this point can turn nuclear) and He no longer protects us from the forces of nature.
Notice Haiti. It has been a sovereign nation for as long as the USA and yet, it is roiling in chaos and its people barely survive with lives of squalor. On that same island is the flourishing Dominican Republic. Haiti turned its back on God from the start, turning to voodoo and other unholy beliefs. So God backed away and has left it to its own demise and it is like Hell on earth to this day.
This is where I see us heading. Christianity is reviled here in our own nation by many people today. The Democrats booed God at their convention. There are those in our government and all over our land who have sold their souls to Evil in order to gain power and money.
How long until God's back is turned on us and he is far away and no longer hears us? Or has that already happened?
Days
Commentator
The apostasy of American churches began in the 1920's when jesuits took over all our Seminaries. As those ministers grew into pastoring positions in the 50's and 60's. everything went to hell... now you can read about the gift of sex; as if that was one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
I'd be hard pressed to choose out a nation today that I could describe as "God-fearing". We live in dark times.
Days
Commentator
Time for paradigm reckoning.
Reach deep down inside yourselves and muster the patience to watch this video of Michael Tellinger explain his research in South Africa that sent him hell bent on over turning the world money systems. Let me explain what he is thinking... he is thinking that the Sumerian texts are the final authority on what he sees all over South Africa. Don't get caught in that trap, just listen to the evidence, learn the real history of mankind on this planet.
200,000 Year Old Ancient Technology That Indicates The History Books Are Wrong
Did you catch everything? He is whipping through it, so let me point out some of those details you might have missed; petina on the carved stone tools used for levitating large stone block proved the work to be at least 100,000 years old. Now how long do you suppose it took to build ten million field generators out of six feet wide, ten feet tall stone walls? Remember, there is sparse evidence of human population in those areas, this work was carried out by a few people, not an army of slaves. Those 75,000 gold mines discovered in the Lydenburg area in the 1930s are all ancient mines, prehistoric, there is no known activity there in historic times, only within the past few decades... all of this is being ignored by modern archaeologists because it doesn't fit into their paradigm of a primitive mankind prior to the floods and their myths. How about that shaft DeBeers discovered back in the 1990's? 22,000 feet deep in the earth; uhm, that's over 4 miles deep, as in we rarely go that deep, and what we do is blast with explosives and claw out with mining vehicles, but that shaft was cut with laser precision; and you know what? Those lasers were powered by the field generators built on the surface; it was very high tech... way beyond what we can do today, and it happened 200,000 years ago to 100,000 years ago.
So let me ask you. where did all the gold go? The refined gold throughout the planet is a pittance compared to what they must have pulled out of South African mines over a period of at least 150,000 years... that's a question someone should be asking. But instead of asking it, modern scholars are pretending there's nothing to see over there.
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I don't doubt that there were highly advanced civilizations on earth long before our measly 6000 years of recorded history (of one sort or another).
The wheel of time theory is a strong one and if we continue to dig, it will become stronger.......................... but then we or something from space or volcanoes or earthquakes or a combination of all of those will snuff us out and whatever cretin morons survive will have to lead "humans" to discover how to harness fire again.
All of our records will be lost. Paper - gone.........cyber ----- it will all be there floating in the cloud with no way to access it at first, and then the memory of it will fade too. Time to start writing things in stone using pictures for the future people who have forgotten letters and need a more obvious way of finding out what we did here in the past.
Days
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The Egyptians were big on bragging about their accomplishments, but for the most part, I don't believe mankind gave much thought to passing on record of their civilization to generations to come. I think they just lived their lives and what was left over was left over. Over time, everything is lost except cut stone.
The cut stone was used because it was the proper application for the work or construction at the time. I've said it before about those stone cities sitting on the ocean floor; they once were beautiful coastal cities and no doubt the stone was just the first two floors of what were likely skyscrapers. We still build skyscrapers that way, at least we used to, now we skimp on the first couple of floors.
No doubt those ten million field generators were domed and filled with equipment. No doubt they were powering mining operations deep into the earth beneath them.
I'm not sure if Michael Tellinger has figured that much out, yet. It can be hard to see the big picture when you are inside the story (he's from South Africa)... but along comes some neophyte in Chicago, watches your video and a myriad of others and says, hey, those were field generators for the mining operations...
Days
Commentator
200,000 Year Old Ancient Technology That Indicates The History Books Are Wrong
Another catch point: The calendar was built 100,000 years ago. The Sumerian text says Enki built the calendar 285,000 years after arriving on earth. So that gives us a date of arrival: 385,000 years ago. Figure the mining operation began roughly 185,000 years after arrival. They started the mining themselves, then built the Adamu to do the labor.
My interpretation: Enki is the snake in the Garden. (Enki is depicted as a man's torso on top of a snake body)
Remember, God built the first men to replenish the earth and said they were very good. But the man named Adam seemed to be a co operative effort with the snake, who fed Adam the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil. Try to remember, this is an old myth, and it was really just a fast recap of older myths, so what you have there is a snapshot of a much older knowledge that God had deemed evil and rid the earth of with floods.
All of this is resurrection. The earth was void, covered with waters. How long ago was Genesis 1:2? millions of years? Maybe two million years? Maybe two billion years? And the earth was inhabited with man before that, but it was destroyed, now God is replenishing it. Was the earth destroyed by a moon of Nebiru colliding with it? Got any other text to explain it? Nope.
The Sage of Main Street
Governor
Days
Commentator
There's ten million magnetrons, each one larger than what we manufacture today ...
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... There's tens of thousands of ancient mines, employing laser technology, powered by those magnetrons. And you respond that it is all escapist fantasy? Someone didn't watch the video.
200,000 Year Old Ancient Technology That Indicates The History Books Are Wrong
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Days
Commentator
Okay, I can see where Mr. Tellinger was taking us baby steps through the material so we could grasp the magnetrons were field generators for the laser operations... on our own.
Let's step back and talk about manifestation of the spirit.
The first big manifestation of the spirit (although by now you should understand that the beginning was not the beginning; there is no beginning, Genesis chooses a starting point, and that starting point was the reseeding of life upon earth after the last great catastrophe) was the covering cherub of God's throne, tossed down to earth as a profane thing that had sinned against God. You should be shaking your head in laughter; God cast down his own glory as an act of self condemnation for being too proud of his own beauty. But it also should make you wonder and marvel at how humble the most high God is.
But that the rainbow ribbon of light was manifest is unmistakable. When God asks the devil where he has been spending his time (since he was cast down) ... the devil answers, "walking to and fro through the earth". Which means the devil was covering a lot of ground. He was all over the planet. And a manifestation of the spirit is not the same as man being born of the spirit; there was no birth for the snake man, he just materialized. Likewise there was no death. But he can go back and forth from the spirit world to the flesh, he isn't trapped here, not yet anyway, he can even appear before the throne of God, his former position in glory. Eventually, he gets sealed in a bottomless pit; not sure what that is, some have conjectured it is space, or maybe it is in the spiritual realm. Then too, after that, the devil is ultimately thrown into the Lake of Fire; this time it really seems to be in the physical realm, cuz it is burning with sulphur, so maybe that's an open volcano, at the same time he is cast into sheol (hell) - hence, the term "hellfire". For now let's see if we can grasp manifestation of the spirit. That is when spirits materialize into the physical realm (appear on earth).
Another manifestation; those angels came down to earth and fathered children with the daughters of men. That gave us Hercules and other mighty men; men of renown before the floods, and a lineage of giants even after the floods. The angels that pulled that off were imprisoned back in the spirit world, but they get released again in the apocalypse and I'm guessing the year 2030 for that event. Besides those manifestations, there are plenty of others in scripture and multitudes unrecorded down through time. As Paul put it, "many have entertained angels, unaware who their guests were" (something like that). Some of us have known exactly who we are talking with. When the Captain of the Lord of Hosts met Joshua in his camp, Joshua challenged him (military challenge to an outsider entering the camp) ... only to discover he was talking to the likes of Michael (top archangel). Jacob wrestled with an angel all night and prevailed over him, then the angel touched Jacob in the leg and he limped from there on, meaning he had to rely on god's strength not his own; that's how Jacob (means usurper) became Israel (means prince of God).
Jumping ahead, the 4th seal, the time of great tribulation which is still lingering by the way, is immediately followed by the 6th seal, which is the appearing of the sign of the son of man, he comes in the clouds, hence, that's another manifestation, except it is in heaven... I'm going with 2028 for that one. Eventually God is manifest on earth for 1000 years; which is extremely brief compared to how long the devil has been hanging around the planet. (The 5th seal is accomplished during the lingering of the 4th seal)
Midway through the 7th seal there comes the first resurrection. The living followers of the 2 witnesses are caught up together in the clouds with the resurrected. The manchild 144,000 are caught up, but not killed. They remain alive. Rapture is a state of being in heaven and still alive on earth. Their spirits do not leave their physical bodies... that would be death, not rapture.
Jesus came as a witness to the truth. he never left us. His spirit remains here with us. The presence of his spirit is his ongoing witness on earth. The living church. We are born again into heavenly places with Christ and we live raptured lives on earth, testifying to this grace in which we stand. Our testimony is his testimony, and his ongoing witness to men, or as John put it,
"He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true."
Gospel of John 3:33
Days
Commentator
Almost forgot my point!
So, here was all this recorded history, and there's lots of errors, but that's the way with writing; especially when regular people write from memory, it's not that the writers were lying, it's just that they rememberred or recorded after the ways of humans; intent of meaning counts. Was the "son of Emmaeus" given sight by jesus when Jesus was on the way to Emmaeus? In Emmaeus? Or on the way out of Emmaeus? depends which gospel you are reading. But the devil comes along as says it is all bunk, it never happened, even this Jesus guy never was real... well, this Jesus guy was for real, and his disciples were for real, and the gospel went out, and the people of the planet knew what the gospel was about when they heard it, because they heard about Jesus throughout the Roman Empire; this thing wasn't done in a corner; kings knew about it, and the common people rushed just to get a glimpse of the messiah. It isn't every day that the dead are raised.
Likewise with the history and events recorded in Genesis. They all happened. Timelines are messed up, but even science knows that there never has been a natural mutation of chromosomes; IOW, evolution of species has no evidence. Evolution within spieces, yes, constantly, it is the nature of DNA to be reactive to environment, but evolution between species? A complete Lie, even the drawings were fictitious, someone drew those drawings, there's zero skeletal remains, it isn't just a missing link; the whole evolution is missing; as in, it's a big Lie. What the devil did was use that Lie to tell a bigger Lie; Genesis never happened, man evolved from an ape and civilization began in Mesopotamia 6000 years ago.
This was the deception sent by God to lead men astray of the truth. It was prophesied. And delivered. And the deceived buy into it, hook, line and sinker. Why is God in the business of deceiving you? Because you want to be deceived, you want to follow the flesh and deny the spirit. So God gave you a path to do that. Or as Paul put it, "being clever, I caught you with guile" (something like that)(2Cor 12:16)
Well, anyway. The witness in text and archaeology is there, it all happened, you can't escape it and you won't escape it. Like I tell my son... God is a sunuvabitch, be very afraid! He creates the light and the darkness; the truth and the deception, the Christ and the AntiChrist, the good and the evil, it all comes from his toolbox, learn to follow the good, and things will go well for you. Or do as I did, surrender all to the altar of his presence, pick up the cross and follow Jesus; it is just a name for a man that no longer exists; when he returns, he is a different man, he is no longer the old flesh he dwelled in for 30 years, 2000 years ago. We all get new names once we get rid of the bodies that our current names label. I've been following this spirit of God since I asked him into my heart May 13, 1981. I'm as faulty as the next guy; thank your lucky stars I didn't write one of those gospels, everyone would be lost! But I'm good at being lost and finding my way; I guess that's the story of my life; figuring out puzzles and piecing them back together. The only difference between being lost and knowing where you are is time... the first ime you come to a place, you are lost, by the 3rd or 4th time, you come there, you know where you are. I kept coming back to the scriptures in Genesis until I got to know where I was at. Maybe it took me a 1000 times, but I'm starting to get a feel for the place. So I passed it on to you guys... hope it helped!~
The Sage of Main Street
Governor
Cuomo Erectus DysfunctionThere's There are ten million magnetrons, each one larger than what we manufacture today ...
... There's There are tens of thousands of ancient mines, employing laser technology, powered by those magnetrons. And you respond that it is all escapist fantasy? Someone didn't watch the video.
200,000 Year Old Ancient Technology That Indicates The History Books Are Wrong
In their spare time, Hollyweirdos produced that elevation of Stone Age retards.
Days
Commentator
Where did you get that idea from? It is totally false. Hollywood is / has pushed the evolution schism - we came from apes. Hollywood is totally on the devil's side. They are completely against the scriptures authenticity.
Days
Commentator
The Bible tells us God made man in his own image and likeness...
The scientific community / higher education community tells us that amoebas became fish became polywogs became frogs became lizards became turtles became jack rabbits became tigers became birds became primates became man. None of it ever happened, neither is there a lick of evidence for any of it. Even Darwin said he didn't believe the theory later in his life and it wasn't under any pressure from the church, the theory just doesn't pan out, modern science has totally discredited it, but institutions of learning go right on pushing those lies; so dersperate are they to excape any morality. This is liberalism - liberating us from truth to live any way we feel like living - if it feels good, do it. Hollywood completely ignores archaeological evidence for human intelligence prior to the flood. Hollywood is run by rich jews who hate the Law of Moses, anything that subscribes to authenticity of the Torah is a mortal enemy of Hollywood.
What I am showing in this thread (trying to show) is that Genesis early chapters was a summary - more than that, it was an abbreviation - of prior writings and knowledge.
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EatTheRich
President
The scientific community says no such thing.
Days
Commentator
There's an art to the subtle downplay of truth. There's no single voice to any community; but do me this service; choose which of the 2 are being taught to the masses:
1) man evolved from an ape
2) God created man in his image and likeness
#1 teaches that we were hunter gatherers with no technology until the past 6000 years. #2 teaches that man was created intelligent... each time he was replanted on this planet.
EatTheRich
President
Both are being taught to the masses depending on where you're talking about. #1 is consistent with the evidence, although no one is claiming there was no technology before 6000 years ago and mainstream archeologists actually say agriculture dates back 12000 years or so.
Also, just so it's clear, no educated person is saying we evolved from chimpanzees or gorillas ... rather, humans and chimpanzees both evolved from a common ape ancestor ... just as this ancestor and the ancestor of gorillas both evolved from an earlier common ancestor ... just as an earlier ancestor of all apes, and an ancestor of Old World monkeys, both evolved from a common ancestor.
Days
Commentator
Let's talk about "consistent with the evidence".
paradigm = mind set
world view
framework of history
Here's a perfect example of this paradigm...
Notice how the narrative assumes that the ultra advanced civilization of Sumer just popped up out of nowhere in a complete form.
New Sumerian Artifacts 2018 Documentary The Forgotten History of Sumer
Isn't it more consistent with the evidence to assume that a highly advanced civilization slowly evolved over a long period? Why does Sumer have to pop up out of nowhere with an already super advanced civilization? ... CUZZZZZ, they have the paradigm that man developed from hunter gatherer just prior to this time period; and prior to that, he evolved from an ape.
Neanderthal man had a brain 15% larger than cro-magnum man. Neanderthal man lived to be a 1000 years old. There's ten million magnetrons in the 300 megahertz range built into the South African landscape and tens of thousands of ancient mines employing laser technology. There's megalithes all over the planet employing laser technology. There's a man made city in the heart of the Pacific Ocean built from 150 million tons of basalt cut into stone blocks. The planet is covered with pyramids, there's one region in China that has thousands of pyramids; and yet it is all ignored, the entire history of the planet doesn't match the modern paradigm given to us by 19th century British "discoverers"... so I have to debate inane ideas like evolution from a primate Ape with you in the 21st century, when we know damn well it never happened.
