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Ok Granny Warren is out....she cannot get out from underneath the Lie-awatha thing

middleview

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Maybe you'll change your mind if he summarily executes a couple of American citizens without due process? I know that's one of your criteria for presidents you support.
I'm sure that some Americans have been killed in the air strikes on ISIS positions, since he knows that there are some citizens who have joined ISIS in Syria. Has he gotten any warrants for their arrests? Sent any FBI agents to Raqqa to arrest them for trial? Nah.
 

Jen

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I'm surprised I really didn't think it would follow her that hard but apparently there are a lot of REAL Indians out there who want proof....they seem to show up at all of her rallies and that would make her too toxic even for VP.

Biden, despite his obvious Pedophile predilections would be the most dangerous candidate but man what an ugly primary...I wonder if any of his lefty challengers would pull out the pervert card? Probably and what about the me too movement? Why do I just know that they're waiting in the wings for his announcement? LOL....

Kamala Harris....Nah....she does not have the Savvy to make a big splash on the Stage like a Hillary.....it just wouldn't work.

Corey Booker....that would be interesting....he thinks he's the second coming of MLK and he has already shown an interest in bullying women. But he might make it all the way in a Primary against Biden....Unless an old sex victim steps out of the mist with a " ME TOO" holler.

Somebody said ... Gerry Brown???? Um....yeah right.

And I repeat....what's wrong with this guy? ( Julian Castro ) He is Bi-lingual, very intelligent, seems to drift toward the center instead of toward the wing and he delivers one hell of a speech. Has the look and the Charisma.....

If I was Pelosi, Schumer I would be banging on his door with cash in hand...this is a money candidate with National Potential. Are the Democrats Dumb? Stupid? Or just stuck in the " It's my turn " mode ?


I've mentioned Julian Castro for a while now. He has potential since Lefty likes to go for the charisma to suck in young voters.

Unless the Dems go to the "it's my turn" crowd (several possibilities there), Castro is the one to beat. But............ Castro, like Obama, will pretend to be center, but he's a Socialist at heart.
 

SouthernBoyI

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I've mentioned Julian Castro for a while now. He has potential since Lefty likes to go for the charisma to suck in young voters.

Unless the Dems go to the "it's my turn" crowd (several possibilities there), Castro is the one to beat. But............ Castro, like Obama, will pretend to be center, but he's a Socialist at heart.
If he hasn’t had his license to practice law taken away they won’t want him.

SB
 
I'm sure that some Americans have been killed in the air strikes on ISIS positions, since he knows that there are some citizens who have joined ISIS in Syria. Has he gotten any warrants for their arrests? Sent any FBI agents to Raqqa to arrest them for trial? Nah.
Who are they?
 

middleview

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Nah.... I never met him but I can tell you from a distance he's a creep...seen too many pics of him in the wrong places at the wrong times....also if there is any truth to him swimming naked in front of female SS agents....then he is definitely off center. Yeah I know we can say the same thing about Trump....the difference is Trump doesn't pretend to be somebody else he's just who he is.

JO
The source of that story about Biden skinny dipping is from Ronald Kessler. Usually a good writer, but known in a few occasions to go with stories like that without any verification.

Every book ever written has mistakes. But experts are supposed to get the main things right, and reporters generally follow through when someone tells them something. Too often, Kessler seems to have listened to his sources, written their words down, and then simply printed as fact their allegations or observations without checking on them.

— Marc Ambinder, The Week, August 6, 2014
 

justoffal

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I've mentioned Julian Castro for a while now. He has potential since Lefty likes to go for the charisma to suck in young voters.

Unless the Dems go to the "it's my turn" crowd (several possibilities there), Castro is the one to beat. But............ Castro, like Obama, will pretend to be center, but he's a Socialist at heart.
I like his positions on many things....that's probably why lefty doesn't back him ....
He seems very capable, intelligent and sensible.....you also don't get the feeling that he can be bullied.

JO
 
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There are about 200 Americans who have joined ISIS and are in Syria. If we continue to bomb ISIS positions we are certainly in danger of killing them.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-americans-have-joined-isis/

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/02/05/583407221/americans-in-isis-some-300-tried-to-join-12-have-returned-to-u-s
That's probably true. Keep me posted, especially if they are American citizens and if Trump decides, like Obama did, that blowing them up far from any battlefield is easier than giving them due process.
 

middleview

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That's probably true. Keep me posted, especially if they are American citizens and if Trump decides, like Obama did, that blowing them up far from any battlefield is easier than giving them due process.
You have yet to describe how Obama, or Bush or Trump, would have done that....

Awlaki made Yemen a battlefield when he helped build a bomb there that would have taken down an American airliner if it had worked.

It wasn't about easier. It was about Obama doing what was necessary to stop a terrorist from killing Americans from a hiding place in another country.
 
You have yet to describe how Obama, or Bush or Trump, would have done that....

Awlaki made Yemen a battlefield when he helped build a bomb there that would have taken down an American airliner if it had worked.

It wasn't about easier. It was about Obama doing what was necessary to stop a terrorist from killing Americans from a hiding place in another country.
Not going to go through it with you again to reach the same conclusion: I support citizens' civil rights as enumerated in the constitution, and you don't.
 

middleview

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Not going to go through it with you again to reach the same conclusion: I support citizens' civil rights as enumerated in the constitution, and you don't.
You continue to spout bullshit about constitutional rights, but ignore that if someone goes to war against the US they might just get killed and, guess what, no warrant required.

How many warrants and arrests took place from 1861 to 1865 against the members of the confederate army? How many against Americans who joined the Wehrmacht in WWII?
 

Jen

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I like his positions on many things....that's probably why lefty doesn't back him ....
He seems very capable, intelligent and sensible.....you also don't get the feeling that he can be bullied.

JO
I will keep an eye on him. There was once another up and coming charismatic fellow from San Antonio - Henry Cisneros. I knew his wife and found her to be a bit arrogant and dismissive toward other Latinos. He was Clinton's HUD Secretary, but was grounded when he was caught paying off a mistress. Castro, so far has a better personal record and may go further than Cisneros did.
 
How many warrants and arrests took place from 1861 to 1865 against the members of the confederate army?
Surely even you know Lincoln suspended habeas corpus (unconstitutionally), specifically so that he couldn't be accused of doing what you support Obama having done.

How many against Americans who joined the Wehrmacht in WWII?
Who were those people, and what was the outcome of their situations?
 

middleview

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Surely even you know Lincoln suspended habeas corpus (unconstitutionally), specifically so that he couldn't be accused of doing what you support Obama having done.



Who were those people, and what was the outcome of their situations?
US citizens who joined a hostile foreign military with the intent of waging war on the US are fair game. We killed them when we could....and without "due process".

That isn't why he suspended Habeas Corpus.
https://www.reference.com/history/did-lincoln-suspend-writ-habeas-corpus-95b63b23300c340d

During the war with Mexico there were a number of Americans who fought on the side of the Mexicans. Look it up. St Patrick's Battalion. Guess what...no warrants.
 
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US citizens who joined a hostile foreign military with the intent of waging war on the US are fair game. We killed them when we could....and without "due process".

That isn't why he suspended Habeas Corpus.
https://www.reference.com/history/did-lincoln-suspend-writ-habeas-corpus-95b63b23300c340d

During the war with Mexico there were a number of Americans who fought on the side of the Mexicans. Look it up. St Patrick's Battalion. Guess what...no warrants.
You seem to be under the impression I think Obama was the first president to violate citizens' civil right to due process. He wasn't. He's just the one you vigorously support for doing so (presumably due to his party affiliation).
 
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