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Comey vs Trump

Zam-Zam

Senator
Yes, you did make it clear what you PREFER to believe. Nancy Pelosi is suddenly your mentor. Never thought it would happen. LOL
Here's what I actually said:


I don't know if he's telling the truth or not in either instance. I sincerely doubt any other poster here does either, and are simply offering opinions on what they prefer to believe.


What you infer from that is up to you, and I have no control that, and therefore am not responsible for it. You are free to conclude any absurd notion you wish to, as you have demonstrated here.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Democrats accused him of not being credible. What do you believe they meant by that?
Comey incredibly inserted himself in the election, against DOJ/FBI policy. Heck, at one point Trump even claimed that was why he fired Comey...because Comey mistreated Hillary!!

Dems never claimed Comey was lying, just that he was wrong to do what he did.
The only person claiming Comey is a liar....is Trump.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Comey incredibly inserted himself in the election, against DOJ/FBI policy. Heck, at one point Trump even claimed that was why he fired Comey...because Comey mistreated Hillary!!

Dems never claimed Comey was lying, just that he was wrong to do what he did.
The only person claiming Comey is a liar....is Trump.

Words mean things:

Credible:
adjective
1.
capable of being believed; believable:
a credible statement.
2.
worthy of belief or confidence; trustworthy:
a credible witness.


http://www.dictionary.com/browse/credible
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Well then, Trump could say Comey isn't credible, but instead he screeches "Comey is a LIAR."
Apparently, Trump has decided that LIAR is a more powerful word than credible.
They mean essentially the same thing, so you're complaint is over a matter of style rather than about substance.

It could be that both Trump and the Democrats are wrong about Comey's credibility, or it could be that they are both correct. What it can't be is both.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Fine. Then perhaps you believe Ms. Pelosi and the others in the video are perhaps less-than-trustworthy when they attack someone.

I have no issue with that.
While you'd like a blanket statement on who to trust, you and I both know that the circumstances and individuals involved matter. It is certainly a case by case evaluation.

I think Comey was probably wrong to make a comment on the investigation into Clinton's email server. That should have been up to the Attorney General. You do realize that regardless of Comey's statement, Lynch could easily have overridden his evaluation and gone ahead with a prosecution....right?
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
They mean essentially the same thing, so you're complaint is over a matter of style rather than about substance.

It could be that both Trump and the Democrats are wrong about Comey's credibility, or it could be that they are both correct. What it can't be is both.
Trump calling someone a LIAR has more of a negative connotation than anyone calling Comey not credible.....regardless of the definition.

Do you seriously judge a person over ONE event rather than take their full history into account?

For example, I only judge Trump as a mentally unstable, personality-disordered, pathological lying bully, know-nothing in view of his entire history as an adult.

I judge Comey as a good man for his years of dedicated and unblemished service to the country and not for the one instance of improperly insinuating himself into an election.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
While you'd like a blanket statement on who to trust, you and I both know that the circumstances and individuals involved matter. It is certainly a case by case evaluation.

I think Comey was probably wrong to make a comment on the investigation into Clinton's email server. That should have been up to the Attorney General. You do realize that regardless of Comey's statement, Lynch could easily have overridden his evaluation and gone ahead with a prosecution....right?

I'm not asking for a blanket statement on anything. Either you trust Democrat politicos when they go on the offensive and attack someone, or you do not. I don't really care which one it is, it doesn't affect me.

What I am pointing out is that many of those who now trust Comey implicitly are the same folks who had no problem of attacking his credibility. It's less about Mr. Comey than it is about whether or not what he says tickles their ears.
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
Trump calling someone a LIAR has more of a negative connotation than anyone calling Comey not credible.....regardless of the definition.

Do you seriously judge a person over ONE event rather than take their full history into account?

For example, I only judge Trump as a mentally unstable, personality-disordered, pathological lying bully, know-nothing in view of his entire history as an adult.

I judge Comey as a good man for his years of dedicated and unblemished service to the country and not for the one instance of improperly insinuating himself into an election.
It appears the Democrats in the video were more than ready to judge Mr. Comey. One accused him of destroying the FBI's credibility as well as his own.

As for me, I don't know whether he has lied or not. Neither do you for that matter. Let's not pretend differently.
 
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NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
Here's what I actually said:


I don't know if he's telling the truth or not in either instance. I sincerely doubt any other poster here does either, and are simply offering opinions on what they prefer to believe.


What you infer from that is up to you, and I have no control that, and therefore am not responsible for it. You are free to conclude any absurd notion you wish to, as you have demonstrated here.
I'm assuming you posted that video of Pelosi for a reason.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
It appears the Democrats in the video were more than ready to judge Mr. Comey. One accused him of destroying the FBI's credibility as well as his own.

As for me, I don't know whether he has lied or not. Neither do you for that matter. Let's not pretend differently.
Oh, I know for certain that Trump lies.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
I'm not asking for a blanket statement on anything. Either you trust Democrat politicos when they go on the offensive and attack someone, or you do not. I don't really care which one it is, it doesn't affect me.

What I am pointing out is that many of those who now trust Comey implicitly are the same folks who had no problem of attacking his credibility. It's less about Mr. Comey than it is about whether or not what he says tickles their ears.
does Trump have any credibility in your opinion?
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Comey is struggling with his explanation over why he inserted himself politically into the election days before the vote. I get the Guiliani-influenced wing of the NY FBI and his need to counter them, but there will be no good explanation why Comey went against DOJ/FBI policy to stay out of the political arena. However, overall, one cannot say that Comey is a dishonest man while Trump has etched on his forehead "I am a con man."

Comey has a super-healthy ego maybe because he's good-looking, smart and sooo tall, but it's a bit much that he's acting like he's the only one who can tell us what a scumbag Trump really is.

Trump is frantically trying to protect his fragile ego while Comey is trying to sell a book.
LMAO--he said he knew Shrill would win and he wanted to do that so she'd look legit.....................LMAO
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Comey incredibly inserted himself in the election, against DOJ/FBI policy. Heck, at one point Trump even claimed that was why he fired Comey...because Comey mistreated Hillary!!

Dems never claimed Comey was lying, just that he was wrong to do what he did.
The only person claiming Comey is a liar....is Trump.
Sow said Comey was why she lost
along with everyone on earth and the kitchen sink
 
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