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So we were attacked by the Russian military.

July 27, 2016, Trump: "Russia, if you're listening,
I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing."
Indictment: That evening, Russian operatives targeted Clinton campaign emails "for the first time."

Boom. A big boom from today’s announced indictments of 12 Russian intelligence operatives.

Note the date. July 27, 2016.

July 27, 2016, candidate Donald Trump:

"Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press," the Republican presidential nominee told reporters.

 

Spamature

President
July 27, 2016, Trump: "Russia, if you're listening,
I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing."
Indictment: That evening, Russian operatives targeted Clinton campaign emails "for the first time."

Boom. A big boom from today’s announced indictments of 12 Russian intelligence operatives.

Note the date. July 27, 2016.

July 27, 2016, candidate Donald Trump:

"Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press," the Republican presidential nominee told reporters.

Let's play some of his greatest hits !

 

Spamature

President
Red Hatter Reply: "...those videos of Der Uber Fuhrer Baby Snatcher asking for Russia help were all fake news !!.."
Then they are going to have a conniption fit over this one. Because he apparently knew about the Trump campaign/Russian spies meeting in Trump Tower before it happened.

 

Fast Eddy

Mayor
Every major power in the world engages in this stuff, even in the US. If we need to be mad at someone then China is the one as they take Billions from us every year and have taken almost every Military secret we have. No, its business as usual.
 
Every major power in the world engages in this stuff, even in the US. If we need to be mad at someone then China is the one as they take Billions from us every year and have taken almost every Military secret we have. No, its business as usual.
It's against the law in the US to conspire to do what the Russians did at the level they did such.

If its against the law in those other countries let them convict ... like we're going to do
 

Fast Eddy

Mayor
It's against the law in the US to conspire to do what the Russians did at the level they did such.

If its against the law in those other countries let them convict ... like we're going to do
Sure, we will convict 12 Russians and they will pick 12 of our people and do the ame, but the spying will continue.
 
Sure, we will convict 12 Russians and they will pick 12 of our people and do the ame, but the spying will continue.
True,

That's not the point of these indictments seeing we KNOW Russia isn't just going to give them up.

The bigger issues is Americans have an official account of how Benedict Donald or his crew helped the Russians steal the 16 the election for him
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
I read the indictment (twice) did you? It appears to be a highly circumstantial case. I found it curious that if they had all this proof about the Russians' actions in hacking these networks, why the use of "on or about" dates throughout? If they had the goods on them, don't you think they'd know the exact dates that they did these acts?

Really, the only thing it confirmed for me is that the same person who spear-fished Podesta also released the DNC emails. That's it. Beyond that their whole case regarding the Podesta & DNC hacks is that they attribute the internet account that was involved in both to one of these Russians. It doesn't say how they know it was his email address - and I have to wonder why that is? So if we believe that (without any evidence whatsoever) then we can "believe" that the Russians were behind these hacks.
 

Spamature

President
I read the indictment (twice) did you? It appears to be a highly circumstantial case. I found it curious that if they had all this proof about the Russians' actions in hacking these networks, why the use of "on or about" dates throughout? If they had the goods on them, don't you think they'd know the exact dates that they did these acts?

Really, the only thing it confirmed for me is that the same person who spear-fished Podesta also released the DNC emails. That's it. Beyond that their whole case regarding the Podesta & DNC hacks is that they attribute the internet account that was involved in both to one of these Russians. It doesn't say how they know it was his email address - and I have to wonder why that is? So if we believe that (without any evidence whatsoever) then we can "believe" that the Russians were behind these hacks.
This is an ongoing attack. Why give them any specifics ? So they can develop better countermeasures to detection ? Whose side are you on ?
 

Spamature

President
So you didn't see any definitive evidence either?
"On or about", is used in criminal charges all the time. There is nothing suspicious about it.
You mean more detailed information released to the public on how and when the United States knew what the Russian military was doing on its computers in an attack on this nation.
Otherwise you won't believe the indictments.

Again, whose side are you on ?
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
"On or about", is used in criminal charges all the time. There is nothing suspicious about it.
You mean more detailed information released to the public on how and when the United States knew what the Russian military was doing on its computers in an attack on this nation.
Otherwise you won't believe the indictments.

Again, whose side are you on ?
Only when they don't know the exact date of the crime. Like when they catch a Mexican national in Phoenix with 100 lbs of meth and accuse him of smuggling, but they don't know the day he crossed the border. It is a sign that they don't have the extensive set of evidence that shows, for instance, this "Russian" downloading the DNC emails to his server. Apparently they do not have that level of detail. It's suggestive of a highly circumstantial case.
 

John Doe

I detest liberalism
Your nation was attacked, and this is how you respond ? You go after your own countrymen ?
LOL. No law enforcement agency ever got to look at the DNC server. What were they hiding? We are just supposed to trust they were hacked because they said so? Gullible is not a word in the dictionary, but don't take my word for it look it up and see.
Strzok is NOT my countrymen, he is part of the soft coup of traitors attempting to unseat our duly elected President. That makes him traitor to his country and my enemy.
 
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