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Obama and his two birth certificates

Lobato1

Mayor
Alrighty then, since you refuse to deal with reality, please stay in your spaceship and hit warp speed... (buzz off)
You for one know nothing about reality spewing your Lala Land Fake News BULL SHIT! making an ass of yourself for our entertainment.
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Lobato1

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Days

Commentator
You for one know nothing about reality spewing your Lala Land Fake News BULL SHIT! making an ass of yourself for our entertainment.
ROTFLMAO
Best Regards
Lobato1

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itchin' for a fight, are ya?

I guess that's all you can do... police forensics doesn't go anywhere, it is evidence just waiting to be used in a court case, so if anyone goes near the evidence, you threaten them.

same ol' same ol'

these are your "Best Regards"?
 

Lobato1

Mayor
Huh?
Were you on the sauce???
itchin' for a fight, are ya?

I guess that's all you can do...

police forensics

doesn't go anywhere, it is evidence just waiting to be used in a court case, so if anyone goes near the evidence, you threaten them.

same ol' same ol'

these are your "Best Regards"?
Man o man I LUV this from a birther, it makes my day.
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Puzzling Evidence

Free range human living on a tax farm.
The finest police forensics in the nation found the long form birth certificate Obama posted to be an utter forgery. This after millions of Americans had already discovered the same.

You two refuse to acknowledge that the former president posted a completely fraudulent birth cetificate back in 2012. The police report didn't come out until December 2016. That's when I woke up... but don't let it bother your slumber.
No one EXCEPT for lunatics are saying that Obama's long-form BC is a forgery - no one.

What police report? Anyone can file a report. Let me guess Sheriff Joe???
 

Puzzling Evidence

Free range human living on a tax farm.
Days, never think that I don't like you. Of course I do! It's like fighting a dude in the ring who is about to go down, but he stands right in front of you slugging until the last bell. What's not to like about that?
 

4/15

Mayor
How many birth certificates does a hospital print for each birth?

answer: one

exceptions: none

So how did president Obama come up with 2 certificates? Well, there was the certificate that he possessed all his life, which he posted on his website... and then there was a 2nd forged certificate that he posted after being confronted about the first certificate not completely proving he was a naturalized citizen.

The "short form" birth certificate is issued by the hospital for a "witness birth" ... that's when one of the natives comes to the hospital and reports a birth somewhere out on the island. Any resident of Hawaii can witness a birth to the hospital. While, the "long form" birth certificate is issued by the hospital for a birth at the hospital.

When Obama posted his short form birth certificate - that was genuine - it precluded him being born at the hospital and the existence of any long form birth certificate. The hospital doesn't print up both certificates for one birth, it only prints up one certificate for each birth. Obama either got a short form birth certificate or a long form certificate, he didn't get both, no one gets both, no one gets 2 birth certificates.

So, look at the blatant forgery of the long form certificate. Once Obama posted a genuine short form certificate; that was his birth certificate, no one gets 2 birth certificates. Forensics proved the long form was a forgery, but common sense tells you it had to be a forgery because Obama had already posted his birth certificate... no one gets 2 birth certificates, not even Obama.
I was born on a holiday so there was no birth certificate entered for me. I got my picture in the paper though and the county registered my birth from the newspaper article. The hospital eventually registered a live birth cert with the county so i have two birth certs, one says i was born and the other says i was born alive and the newspaper has one address and the others have different addresses.. Weird. Made getting a passport a nightmare as well as social security.
 

Days

Commentator
No one EXCEPT for lunatics are saying that Obama's long-form BC is a forgery - no one.

What police report? Anyone can file a report. Let me guess Sheriff Joe???
Police forensics, the finest in the nation, in a detailed lengthy examination found the document to be a total forgery. But long before that report was made public in December 2016, EVERYBODY knew it was a forgery because the idiot president wasn't even smart enough to post a scan document, so EVERYBODY knew it was a forgery. There was dozens of YouTube videos tearing apart the document into its layers. You claim to have looked into it and yet you still maintain it isn't a forgery? You are either lying, nay, hissing through your teeth, or you are lying and hissing through your teeth.

This is the idiocy that the government trolls perform on the internet. Acting as if you are completely dumbfounded at the stupidity of posters who dare to post anything that is on your hit list.

Meanwhile, mr puzzled and confused, the birth certificate was supposed to be a scan made by the hospital, a scan of the page in the book that held the long form certificates. So, the document posted was not even a scan document, it was a Word document.

I don't care how stupid you pretend to be, the average middle school student understands the difference. As one comment put it (among the tens of millions that know about it) "Why didn't Obama simply make a scan of his forged document and post the scan?" It was an incredible oversight.
 

Days

Commentator
I was born on a holiday so there was no birth certificate entered for me. I got my picture in the paper though and the county registered my birth from the newspaper article. The hospital eventually registered a live birth cert with the county so i have two birth certs, one says i was born and the other says i was born alive and the newspaper has one address and the others have different addresses.. Weird. Made getting a passport a nightmare as well as social security.
Government trolls capitalize on the confusion of government records. Their whole mission is to make it impossible to know anything for sure... muddle and confuse, twist ideas, misinform, lie, spin, wash and reload backwards...

but Obama posted a Word document instead of a scan document. Stupidest bungled forgery evah...
 

Lobato1

Mayor
Government trolls capitalize on the confusion of government records. Their whole mission is to make it impossible to know anything for sure... muddle and confuse, twist ideas, misinform, lie, spin, wash and reload backwards...

but Obama posted a Word document instead of a scan document. Stupidest bungled forgery evah...
The only forgery is your buffoonery of your Fake News BULL SHIT!
Best Regards
Lobato1
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Puzzling Evidence

Free range human living on a tax farm.
Police forensics, the finest in the nation, in a detailed lengthy examination found the document to be a total forgery. But long before that report was made public in December 2016, EVERYBODY knew it was a forgery because the idiot president wasn't even smart enough to post a scan document, so EVERYBODY knew it was a forgery. There was dozens of YouTube videos tearing apart the document into its layers. You claim to have looked into it and yet you still maintain it isn't a forgery? You are either lying, nay, hissing through your teeth, or you are lying and hissing through your teeth.

This is the idiocy that the government trolls perform on the internet. Acting as if you are completely dumbfounded at the stupidity of posters who dare to post anything that is on your hit list.

Meanwhile, mr puzzled and confused, the birth certificate was supposed to be a scan made by the hospital, a scan of the page in the book that held the long form certificates. So, the document posted was not even a scan document, it was a Word document.

I don't care how stupid you pretend to be, the average middle school student understands the difference. As one comment put it (among the tens of millions that know about it) "Why didn't Obama simply make a scan of his forged document and post the scan?" It was an incredible oversight.
Yea, about those "layers"....

As for the argument that opening the birth certificate’s PDF file in Adobe Illustrator reveals the presence of multiple layers, which proves that the image was altered, that claim was debunked by an Adobe-certified expert:

It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House had been altered or might be a fake.The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings — and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work — and nothing more.

“When you open it in Illustrator it looks like layers, but it doesn’t look like someone built it from scratch. If someone made a fake it wouldn’t look like this,” he said. “Some scanning software is trying to separate the background and the text and splitting element into layers and parts of layers.”

Tremblay also said that during the scanning process, instances where the software was unable to separate text fully from background led to the creation of a separate layer within the document. This could be places where a signature runs over the line of background, or typed characters touch the internal border of the document.

“I know that you can scan a document from a scanner [and] most of the time it will appear as one piece, but that doesn’t mean that there’s no software that’s doing this kind of stuff,” he said, adding that it’s really quite common.
 

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Free range human living on a tax farm.
Meanwhile, mr puzzled and confused, the birth certificate was supposed to be a scan made by the hospital, a scan of the page in the book that held the long form certificates. So, the document posted was not even a scan document, it was a Word document.
The birth certificate in question was first copied then ran through a scanner and then converted into an Adobe Acrobat PDF file. The resulting online image was then reprinted and dissected with a software program and then some f*cking yahoo who does not understand scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software, makes a video while whispering real softly so he sounds like he's just brought down the POTUS and tries to convince everyone that he's some kind of expert when he wouldn't know a real birth certificate if I balled it up and shoved it up his USB port.
 

Puzzling Evidence

Free range human living on a tax farm.
Government trolls capitalize on the confusion of government records. Their whole mission is to make it impossible to know anything for sure... muddle and confuse, twist ideas, misinform, lie, spin, wash and reload backwards...

but Obama posted a Word document instead of a scan document. Stupidest buIt wngled forgery evah...
Correct. Obama actually had no way to post his real BC online, because that would be impossible. Thank you captain obvious.
 

Puzzling Evidence

Free range human living on a tax farm.
but Obama posted a Word document instead of a scan document. Stupidest bungled forgery evah...
How do you post a "scan document?"

Any picture that you post online is converted into some type of format, you aren't looking at the actual BC and for that matter, not even the original scan of the BC.
 

Lobato1

Mayor
Yea, about those "layers"....

As for the argument that opening the birth certificate’s PDF file in Adobe Illustrator reveals the presence of multiple layers, which proves that the image was altered, that claim was debunked by an Adobe-certified expert:

It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House had been altered or might be a fake.The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings — and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work — and nothing more.

“When you open it in Illustrator it looks like layers, but it doesn’t look like someone built it from scratch. If someone made a fake it wouldn’t look like this,” he said. “Some scanning software is trying to separate the background and the text and splitting element into layers and parts of layers.”

Tremblay also said that during the scanning process, instances where the software was unable to separate text fully from background led to the creation of a separate layer within the document. This could be places where a signature runs over the line of background, or typed characters touch the internal border of the document.

“I know that you can scan a document from a scanner [and] most of the time it will appear as one piece, but that doesn’t mean that there’s no software that’s doing this kind of stuff,” he said, adding that it’s really quite common.
Birthers will not believe this because they get their ONE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND Alternate Facts from the ILLEGAL Pervert Commander In Chief that originated the Kenyan Birther BULL SHIT!
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BOTTOM LINE
Expect this Birther to come back in a couple of days with new Fake News he will get from where the sun don't shine for our entertainment.
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Lobato1

Mayor
I was born on a holiday so there was no birth certificate entered for me. I got my picture in the paper though and the county registered my birth from the newspaper article. The hospital eventually registered a live birth cert with the county so i have two birth certs, one says i was born and the other says i was born alive and the newspaper has one address and the others have different addresses.. Weird. Made getting a passport a nightmare as well as social security.
Before the introduction of the computers documents were notorious for typos & the Birth Certificate was no exception to typos that was most notorious with foreign names.
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Specifically & to the point:
The Hawaiian hospital where Prez Obama was born was named after Queen Kapi’olani but Hawaii had only gotten statehood a couple of years earlier (August 21, 1959) meaning their bureaucracy's personal were from the old territorial days & mostly none Hawaiian & the typist committed several typos including writing Kapiolani instead of Kapi'olani & it's these typos that birthers grabbing at straws have used to spam these forums with their birther BULL SHIT!.
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BTW:
If you Google Queen Kapi’olani you will more than likely get hits with the Queen Kapiolani typo.

Not to mention that the Hawaiian language usage had previously been banned when Hawaii became a territory & when American missionaries converted the Hawaiian language into a written language they only used the vowels a,e,i,o & u & the consonants h,k,l,m,n,p, & w to make up the entire Hawaiian alphabet. Meaning Hawaii is pronounced Havaii since v was not included.
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In 1978, the Hawaiian language was recognized as one of the official languages of the state of Hawaii (the other being English). Public Hawaiian language immersion preschools were established in 1984
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