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So why hasn't Assange been indicted for conspiracy to steal DNC emails...

middleview

President
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Which has nothing to do with the granting of a FISA warrant.

Page never met with Sechin, it does not matter if he met with someone who reports to him. Again in order to get a FISA warrant on an American Citizen you have to show that the person is acting criminally on behalf of a foreign power...….. Why isn't Page in jail?
How are Page's lawsuits coming?
 
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Sickofleft

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How are Page's lawsuits coming?
In 2013-14 when Page helped the FBI break up a Russian spy ring, the Russians reportedly thought of him as an idiot. Looking at his lawsuit against the DNC they were right.

Sadly for you, it has nothing to do with the fact the Obama DOJ lied to a FISA court to get a warrant on him.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
In 2013-14 when Page helped the FBI break up a Russian spy ring, the Russians reportedly thought of him as an idiot. Looking at his lawsuit against the DNC they were right.

Sadly for you, it has nothing to do with the fact the Obama DOJ lied to a FISA court to get a warrant on him.
He also admitted to being an advisor to the Kremlin. Then Trump names him as a foreign policy adviser.

Jeez, why would that raise any suspicions?
 

EatTheRich

President
This does not help you because none of the people he admitted meeting with on a very public trip were NOT named Sechin and Diveykin as Steele alleges.

He was not interviewed prior to the FISA warrant but that does not matter. In order to present the information as verified to a FISA court the FBI has to actually verify the information.

They didn't. He was certainly interviewed him after and if the FBI verified those meetings with Sechin and Diveykin…. why isn't he charged with lying to the FBI? The testimony he gave was also under oath and he still denied meeting with these two people. No perjury charge?

Odd that Carter Page is walking around as free as anyone... :rolleyes:

They lied to seize his communications as a back door into Trumps campaign. They had no interest in interviewing him prior which they could have, they know Page. He helped them break up a Russian Spy ring a few years earlier, if they had legitimate questions they could have just asked him.

Just asking does not backdoor you into the Trump campaign. Barr believes the Trump campaign was spied on, he is correct.
He wasn’t part of Trump’s campaign when they got the warrant. In fact, the Trump campaign said they had no contact with him.
 
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Sickofleft

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He wasn’t part of Trump’s campaign when they got the warrant. In fact, the Trump campaign said they had no contact with him.
Once they have the warrant they can seize his communications going back as far as their little hearts desired.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
So your "guess" is based on supposition, right? You don't know that the NSA doesn't have hard evidence, you suppose they do not because they have not shown it to you.

What do you "suppose" internet logs would show? Do you really think that every movie or download from one system to another is archived? Having seen logs kept by credit card processors, banks, telephone companies...I can tell you that they may keep the metadata...that from IP address to IP address a file was sent and it was 5gb at a given date and time. Keeping content would be impossible.

One other item...would the NSA reveal how much they actually capture?
Where did I suggest they kept the content? The have the metadata and it should show the "GRU's" contacts with Wikileaks. If they had that evidence, they could charge Assange with conspiracy to interfere in the US election. Unless, of course, they consider him a "journalist," in which case they have no case against him for publishing Manning's information. You don't get to have it both ways...
 

middleview

President
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Where did I suggest they kept the content? The have the metadata and it should show the "GRU's" contacts with Wikileaks. If they had that evidence, they could charge Assange with conspiracy to interfere in the US election. Unless, of course, they consider him a "journalist," in which case they have no case against him for publishing Manning's information. You don't get to have it both ways...
What metadata? If a GRU or FSB guy in one of the Russian mansions that Obama shut down, were to hack a DNC computer, use that to get into the DNC email server, extract email to a file on the email server, then FTP the file to his own PC and copy the file to a thumb drive...you can possibly track the data from the DNC email server to the PC owned by the Russians. The thumb drive could then be handed to an Assange associate in a park in DC....

The case against him for Manning is that he helped Manning hack the systems where he copied the cables. Manning and Assange are both participants in the conspiracy.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
What metadata? If a GRU or FSB guy in one of the Russian mansions that Obama shut down, were to hack a DNC computer, use that to get into the DNC email server, extract email to a file on the email server, then FTP the file to his own PC and copy the file to a thumb drive...you can possibly track the data from the DNC email server to the PC owned by the Russians. The thumb drive could then be handed to an Assange associate in a park in DC....

The case against him for Manning is that he helped Manning hack the systems where he copied the cables. Manning and Assange are both participants in the conspiracy.
How did Assange's "associate" know to be at the "park in DC?" You know they have the phone logs too, right?
 
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