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Winston

Do you feel lucky, Punk
You would need to pursue your theorem with the religious then. I am not.

Meanwhile, ww1, ww2, civil war, the Chinese dynastic wars, roman wars, etc were wars of conquest or division. That's truth and understanding ..
Be careful this guy is wanted for something
 
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David J Spetch

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Ok what genuine information am I desperately scrambling to find ways to hide from the public?

Which by the way means exactly the same thing as the last thing I said

Do you believe that you know the truth and that you must make this known to the world

Because this makes you pretty important
The information you quite obviously are unable to contest with even so much as a shred of validity as presented within the very composition beginning this very thread quite obviously to anyone who doesn't live with their head stuffed up their back side. You could have gotten away with precisely, but stating exactly is an obvious lie and your opinion doesn't change that fact.

The truth is the garbage that crumbles when pit vs fact every single time. It stands to reason that the religious created the word truth because they couldn't pass off their lies as fact.
 
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David J Spetch

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Meh. Facts.

The Chinese civil war brought the death of millions of combatants. Then several millions more just for the hell of it. Wasn't in God's name
Well I am waiting, explain how atheism leads to war and divide

 
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David J Spetch

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I'll be back ... a little slow around here right now ...
 

Winston

Do you feel lucky, Punk
The information you quite obviously are unable to contest with even so much as a shred of validity as presented within the very composition beginning this very thread quite obviously to anyone who doesn't live with their head stuffed up their back side. You could have gotten away with precisely, but stating exactly is an obvious lie and your opinion doesn't change that fact.

The truth is the garbage that crumbles when pit vs fact every single time. It stands to reason that the religious created the word truth because they couldn't pass off their lies as fact.
Yup, I haven't done more than glanced at your unabomber word salad

Enjoy the goldfish swimming in your head
 

Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
There is no argument, there is fact then there is ignorance towards fact or recognition of fact.
Facts are subject to analysis, interpretation, and application. Thus, there is argument.
claiming to believe in that which is already been proven a lie
An intelligent Creator hasn't been proven a lie, and cannot be, any more than it can be proven a truth. As stated, current scientific facts indicate it to be truth. One may be ignorant of these facts or may choose to not recognize them; they remain facts, regardless.

Science is merely a process that determines recognition of fact, once recognized as a fact, no longer a science.
Science is, indeed, a process; it seeks an understanding of the nature of things. The facts it discovers along the way may change or be discarded as the process advances. A scientific fact doesn't terminate scientific inquiry. Rather, it guides further inquiry.

energy factually exists
Have you a photo of energy? No, for that's impossible, much as is a photo of God. You may have a photo of the results that energy produces. The results are what makes energy a fact. Ditto God.

if it gets removed from here, I'll be gone along with it.
I see no reason why it would be removed. It doesn't violate any forum guidlines as far as I can tell.

I do not see you or anyone here /anywhere contesting that factual evidence with even so much as a shred of validity.
I contested the evidence you presented re: the existence of an intelligent Creator and others contested different points you presented. You disagree with what was said and, rather than advance the discussion, have declared it all to be invalid. The weakest argument so far is yours, Sir.

It's sickening how the religious always desperately scramble try and make anything else the issue
I'm religious and I addressed directly the issue as presented.

I'm here working to remove all of the lies and deceptions that lead to war and divide to bring unity, trust and understanding
I'm sure that no one questions your good intentions. I, for one, welcome your efforts.
 
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David J Spetch

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I will get back to this one eventually and it will be my pleasure and a piece of cake as always. My Internet has been scarce for weeks now and really cuts into my online time. Doesn't help living above commercial property I'm confident.

Really ticks me off when contacting officials via email etc. and it takes like 2 hours to do 2 minutes of work ... it's that bad ...
 
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David J Spetch

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I said the atheistic are among the warring. Facts above.
So you have no explanation based upon what you already shared of how not being religious leads to war and divide ... cricket appropriate otherwise go ahead and explain instead of reiterating irrelevant rhetoric.
 
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David J Spetch

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Facts are subject to analysis, interpretation, and application. Thus, there is argument.

An intelligent Creator hasn't been proven a lie, and cannot be, any more than it can be proven a truth. As stated, current scientific facts indicate it to be truth. One may be ignorant of these facts or may choose to not recognize them; they remain facts, regardless.


Science is, indeed, a process; it seeks an understanding of the nature of things. The facts it discovers along the way may change or be discarded as the process advances. A scientific fact doesn't terminate scientific inquiry. Rather, it guides further inquiry.


Have you a photo of energy? No, for that's impossible, much as is a photo of God. You may have a photo of the results that energy produces. The results are what makes energy a fact. Ditto God.


I see no reason why it would be removed. It doesn't violate any forum guidlines as far as I can tell.


I contested the evidence you presented re: the existence of an intelligent Creator and others contested different points you presented. You disagree with what was said and, rather than advance the discussion, have declared it all to be invalid. The weakest argument so far is yours, Sir.


I'm religious and I addressed directly the issue as presented.


I'm sure that no one questions your good intentions. I, for one, welcome your efforts.
There is no argument to primary fact, their is either recognition of it or ignorance towards fact.

Secondary facts, such as one day the fact is the law is one way, legislation passes and the fact is the law is different.

Primary fact: it takes energy matter and time to re create energy and matter.

No opinion, analysis, interpretation, and application will ever change primary fact.

Truth is the garbage that crumbles when pit vs fact every single time. You ignore fact (you like every other religious person on the planet fail to provide one factual example of anything going poof into existence out of nothingness which is all that need be provided to prove the possibility of anything with intelligence could ever be the creator of everything to prove what I am sharing is not fact a all but you never will) because you have no validity.

Science s a process that determines recognition of fact once recognized as a fact, no longer a science.

Example, harnessing electricity became a successful formula therefor no longer a science but a successful formula that factually works, not just theory but actual fact.

What to do with the electricity, how to generate electricity. Coal plants creating electricity became a successful formula thus no longer a mere scientific theory, it became fact that coal plants could generate electricity. Creating the light bulb, once created no longer scientific theory, but fact.

Photos of energy can be found everywhere take the ocean of which waves are proof of energy or there would quite obviously not be waves. A photo of an animal running or flying or eating is a photo with evidence of energy ... I could go on and on. You taking a photo is evidence of energy. You writing a response is evidence of energy ... Take a picture of the sun but I advise you not look at the sun directly. Take a picture of lightning.

You didn't contest anything, you evaded facing fact and desperately scrambled to try and make irrelevant drivel the issue while lying to me because that is what religion teaches you to do.

 
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David J Spetch

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Yup, I haven't done more than glanced at your unabomber word salad

Enjoy the goldfish swimming in your head
Right you have no validity, just spew rhetoric as you yourself has so eagerly demonstrated on this very thread time and time again.
 
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David J Spetch

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A Crack in the Ice

Instead, he should tell his brain surgeon. For too long, Canadians have been playing goalie without a face mask.
You see people, this is what people who have no validity when it comes to the foundation of an issue do, try and make irrelevant rhetoric the issue.
 
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David J Spetch

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I waited all this time to come back and that's all there was ...
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
So you have no explanation based upon what you already shared of how not being religious leads to war and divide ... cricket appropriate otherwise go ahead and explain instead of reiterating irrelevant rhetoric.

We. No. You may have missed it....but I dismissed the topic all together...having answered you above. You might consider persons like lenjn, Stalin, Mao, pol pot, Kim, etc...
 

Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
Truth is the garbage that crumbles when pit vs fact every single time. You ignore fact (you like every other religious person on the planet fail to provide one factual example of anything going poof into existence out of nothingness which is all that need be provided to prove the possibility of anything with intelligence could ever be the creator of everything to prove what I am sharing is not fact a all but you never will) because you have no validity.
There may be a point in here regarding the nature of truth that would make for a good discussion. If you will be so kind as to rewrite this is a manner that conforms more with standard written English, perhaps we could explore it.

Photos of energy can be found everywhere take the ocean of which waves are proof of energy or there would quite obviously not be waves. A photo of an animal running or flying or eating is a photo with evidence of energy ... I could go on and on.
Such photos would be, as I said, photos of manifestations of energy in the physical world, not photos of energy itself.

If a wave is proof of energy -- and it is -- then the universe is proof of God (however one might conceive the it).

You didn't contest anything, you evaded facing fact and desperately scrambled to try and make irrelevant drivel the issue while lying to me because that is what religion teaches you to do.
Sir,

I would be most happy to engage in conversation with you, as you've expressed intriguing ideas and hold several positions similar to mine. However, I will not be insulted or bullied. I've addressed you with respect and friendliness in all our exchanges and expect the same in return.

You accuse me of lying when I have not and do not. You insult my religion when you know next to nothing about it. You insult me personally by saying my reply to you in post #2 of this thread, as carefully thought out and worded as all my posts and addressing directly and unequivocally several of your points , was evasive and irrelevant drivel.

None of this was justified.

We will have civil exchanges or we will have none at all. If you're unwilling or unable to comport yourself in a manner appropriate to a public debate, treating those with whom, you disagree with at least a modicum of respect and decency, our conversations will stop. If you consider that no loss, so be it, but you may think otherwise when the rest of the majority here who are decent and kind people react as I.
 
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David J Spetch

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The unabomber speaks
The only bombs I drop are educational / intellectual bombs of which obviously you are unable to contest with even so much as a shred of validity as you yourself so eagerly demonstrates.
 
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