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A Trade Deal Ain't Happening

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ObamacareForever

Senator
China and the US aren't even negotiating any more. The election is on the way, China would rather wait for Trump to lose. Trump could lash out in the mean time and jack up tariffs, but that would be electorally self-defeating. The stock market would crash is the face of increased tariffs, which is not a good thing to do in an election. Trump missed his opportunity.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/how-china-could-meddle-in-the-2020-election-163053951.html
 
Bear Claw

Bear Claw

President
ObamacareForever said:
China and the US aren't even negotiating any more. The election is on the way, China would rather wait for Trump to lose. Trump could lash out in the mean time and jack up tariffs, but that would be electorally self-defeating. The stock market would crash is the face of increased tariffs, which is not a good thing to do in an election. Trump missed his opportunity.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/how-china-could-meddle-in-the-2020-election-163053951.html
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t-rump seems to be getting his tariffs stuffed up his butt now!
 
Constitutional Sheepdog

Constitutional Sheepdog

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Great, let the tariffs began.
It will be felt a little bit but the end others will take the place of the lose of Chinese products.
We wouldn't be in this position if China would have stuck with the agreement by allowing the U.S. in it's market.
 
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Deleted member 21794

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ObamacareForever said:
Yea... 3 years of the stock market not going anywhere aren't going to help his reelection chances. He needs the chinese to come to the table, but they are done with his sh*t.
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You'll frame it as the market going nowhere for 3 years. The Dow was 19,827 when Trump took office. As of today, it's up 31.8% at over 26,000.

As for Trump not being reelected, the Chinese are smarter than you. They know the incumbent automatically has a very good chance of winning reelection. Your TDS is interfering with your ability to think this through properly.
 
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ObamacareForever

Senator
The Thinker said:
You'll frame it as the market going nowhere for 3 years. The Dow was 19,827 when Trump took office. As of today, it's up 31.8% at over 26,000.
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It will have gone sideways for 3 years by November 2020.
The Thinker said:
As for Trump not being reelected, the Chinese are smarter than you. They know the incumbent automatically has a very good chance of winning reelection..
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Past performance is no indication of what will happen in the future. Trump chance's of reelection are extremely poor for an incumbent.
 
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EatTheRich

President
ObamacareForever said:
China and the US aren't even negotiating any more. The election is on the way, China would rather wait for Trump to lose. Trump could lash out in the mean time and jack up tariffs, but that would be electorally self-defeating. The stock market would crash is the face of increased tariffs, which is not a good thing to do in an election. Trump missed his opportunity.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/how-china-could-meddle-in-the-2020-election-163053951.html
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Vegas is giving Trump a 50-50 chance of re-election, and that is not fully reflecting the new norms of lawlessness registered with Trump’s election (since bourgeois society consistently tends to underestimate the effect of creeping Bonapartism even as they hysterically make hyperbolic cries about tyrannical dictatorship).

China wants a deal with the U.S. that improves its bargaining position. Trump wants a deal with China to prove he is the master of the deal. So all he has to do is give China better terms than Obama and the TPP gave them, and claim victory. His base will believe him, the businesses hurt by it will seek compensating advantages, and Trump will keep shucking and jiving.
 
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EatTheRich

President
Constitutional Sheepdog said:
Great, let the tariffs began.
It will be felt a little bit but the end others will take the place of the lose of Chinese products.
We wouldn't be in this position if China would have stuck with the agreement by allowing the U.S. in it's market.
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Trade with China is the only thing masking the depression conditions the U.S. has faced since the 2007 market crashes.
 
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