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Boca

Governor
No. It was always the GRU (Russian Military Intelligence) Guccifer 2.0 never existed. It was a fiction made up as a cover for their activities. There was no physical break in (like the GOP did under Nixon) as far as has been reported. It was an electronic break in.
So GRU agents used a thumb drive?

:p:cool:
 

Boca

Governor
Link to the Russian intelligence officers coming here and demanding a trial ?
Actually it was Concord Management . One of the 13 entities Mueller an Rosenstein gloated about while grand standing for the cameras... knowing full well they wouldn't appear for trial, but Concord did.

Caught Mueller empty handed, no evidence. Never has been a trial.

Ketchup kiddy.
 
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FakeName

Governor
Actually it was Concord Management . One of the 13 entities Mueller an Rosenstein gloated about while grand standing for the cameras... knowing full well they wouldn't appear for trail, but Concord did.

Caught Mueller empty handed, no evidence. Never has been a trial.

Ketchup kiddy.
Didnt catch him empty handed. He cant just turn over US sources and methods to the GRU in discovery now can he?
 

Boca

Governor
Didnt catch him empty handed. He cant just turn over US sources and methods to the GRU in discovery now can he?
That would have been a good point had you stopped to ask why he indicted when he couldn't prosecute for that very reason.

Answer: it was for show ....keep the preconceived Russian lie alive....they won't show up anyway.
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
Wow, you really didn't know????

None of the charges had been expected to go anywhere because the companies and all of the individuals charged over the scheme are Russian. But on Wednesday, one of them, Concord Management and Consulting, LLC, dispatched a pair of lawyers to federal court in Washington to plead not guilty to the charges. One of the lawyers, Eric Dubelier, said Concord would "exercise our right to a speedy trial."


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/05/09/concord-management-arraignment-russia-investigation/594454002/
 

Boca

Governor
QUOTE="Boca, post: 2453680, member: 8379"]https://consortiumnews.com/in-case-you-missed-these-stories/

FBI Never Saw CrowdStrike Unredacted or Final Report on Alleged Russian Hacking Because None was Produced

Thousands of emails from the DNC server were published by WikiLeaks in July 2016 revealing that the DNC interfered in the Democratic primary process to favor former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton over Senator Bernie Sanders for the party’s presidential nomination. The U.S. indicted 12 Russian military intelligence agents in 2018 for allegedly hacking the DNC server and giving the emails to WikiLeaks. (that is total bullshit. no need to help hillary, only a goddamn fool would say that when she got 3 million more popular votes during the primaries and beat crybaby sanders by 15 primary elections. no need to cheat when you kick somebody's ass that bad. why are trump voters stupid and gullible?)

Comey Can’t Say Why

At a time of high tension in the 2016 presidential campaign, when the late Sen. John McCain and others were calling Russian “hacking” an “act of war,” the FBI settled for three redacted “draft reports” from CrowdStrike rather than investigate the alleged hacking itself, the court document shows.

Then FBI Director James Comey admitted in congressional testimony that he chose not to take control of the DNC’s “hacked” computers, and did not dispatch FBI computer experts to inspect them, but has had trouble explaining why.
(not sure that is true, but even if it is, so what? FBI experts made the call about Russian hackers and the private email servers they targeted that were political, not classified or security related to the country...why should the government confiscate them? ever try to think, much? )
It comes as no surprise disgraced former FBI Director was in the tank for Hillary Clinton and didn't want to happen on any evidence of criminal activity. What's new is that the phony "Russia did it" meme was in the works early on. (how was he in the tank when he publicized her being under investigation twice, including once 10 days before the election, while not admitting trump was also under investigation!! why are you so gullible and low info? besides, comey admitted finally there were no classified emails on hillary's server. all hyped up bullshit.)

There's much more in the article to include the FBI never asking for a final report from Crowdstrike, nor even the redacted draft reports. These drafts were “voluntarily” given to the FBI by DNC lawyers. (we indicted 12 russians, confused silly person. what does crowdstrike have to do with that? you are just spewing lies and useless rumors and bullshit. as usual.)

There's another interesting piece of information regarding the DNC hacking......

Bill Binney, a former NSA technical director and a VIPS member, filed an affidavit in Stone’s case. Binney said: “WikiLeaks did not receive stolen data from the Russian government. Intrinsic metadata in the publicly available files on WikiLeaks demonstrates that the files acquired by WikiLeaks were delivered in a medium such as a thumb drive.” (who gives a shit what he says? read the mueller report, home-school. screw that clown, whoever he is.)
And guess what....

FBI Not Probing DNC Staffer Seth Rich's Murder, Despite WikiLeaks Claim (only idiots are still spewing that bullshit. why not go ahead and claim Obama was born in Kenya, too, and that Hillary had a porno ring in a NYC pizza joint. good god..)

:p
 

FakeName

Governor
That would have been a good point had you stopped to ask why he indicted when he couldn't prosecute for that very reason.

Answer: it was for show ....keep the preconceived Russian lie alive....they won't show up anyway.
Its not a lie. It is a fact.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Obviously you didn't read the whole article. Or you did and are just spewing again.
You guys suck this shit up without giving it a second thought....

Bill Binney, a former NSA technical director and a VIPS member, filed an affidavit in Stone’s case. Binney said: “WikiLeaks did not receive stolen data from the Russian government. Intrinsic metadata in the publicly available files on WikiLeaks demonstrates that the files acquired by WikiLeaks were delivered in a medium such as a thumb drive.”
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If I hack into the DNC server, extract all email from their outlook data file and copy it to my PC...what is keeping me from putting it on a thumb drive?


Binney has proven nothing at all.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
So the Technical Director of the National Security Agency doesn't know shit about what he testified to before Congress.

Thanks. Didn't know that either.
He's been out of the business since 2001. I guess you missed that.
 

FakeName

Governor
Then why indict if you're not prepared to prosecute?
Because they committed crimes against the United States of America, that is why?

If they can work out a way to provide discovery without handing sources and methods to the Russians great, if they cant, oh well. Either way the indictments were necessary.

Don't you care about your country?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
https://consortiumnews.com/in-case-you-missed-these-stories/

FBI Never Saw CrowdStrike Unredacted or Final Report on Alleged Russian Hacking Because None was Produced

Thousands of emails from the DNC server were published by WikiLeaks in July 2016 revealing that the DNC interfered in the Democratic primary process to favor former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton over Senator Bernie Sanders for the party’s presidential nomination. The U.S. indicted 12 Russian military intelligence agents in 2018 for allegedly hacking the DNC server and giving the emails to WikiLeaks.

Comey Can’t Say Why

At a time of high tension in the 2016 presidential campaign, when the late Sen. John McCain and others were calling Russian “hacking” an “act of war,” the FBI settled for three redacted “draft reports” from CrowdStrike rather than investigate the alleged hacking itself, the court document shows.

Then FBI Director James Comey admitted in congressional testimony that he chose not to take control of the DNC’s “hacked” computers, and did not dispatch FBI computer experts to inspect them, but has had trouble explaining why.
It comes as no surprise disgraced former FBI Director was in the tank for Hillary Clinton and didn't want to happen on any evidence of criminal activity. What's new is that the phony "Russia did it" meme was in the works early on.

There's much more in the article to include the FBI never asking for a final report from Crowdstrike, nor even the redacted draft reports. These drafts were “voluntarily” given to the FBI by DNC lawyers.

There's another interesting piece of information regarding the DNC hacking......

Bill Binney, a former NSA technical director and a VIPS member, filed an affidavit in Stone’s case. Binney said: “WikiLeaks did not receive stolen data from the Russian government. Intrinsic metadata in the publicly available files on WikiLeaks demonstrates that the files acquired by WikiLeaks were delivered in a medium such as a thumb drive.”
And guess what....

FBI Not Probing DNC Staffer Seth Rich's Murder, Despite WikiLeaks Claim

Thousands of emails from the DNC server were published by WikiLeaks in July 2016 revealing that the DNC interfered in the Democratic primary process to favor former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton over Senator Bernie Sanders for the party’s presidential nomination.

The email showed no such thing. Wiki's breathless exclamation to the contrary...the email showed there were a suggestion or two from pro-Clinton DNC staffers but none were implemented.
 

FakeName

Governor
Thousands of emails from the DNC server were published by WikiLeaks in July 2016 revealing that the DNC interfered in the Democratic primary process to favor former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton over Senator Bernie Sanders for the party’s presidential nomination.

The email showed no such thing. Wiki's breathless exclamation to the contrary...the email showed there were a suggestion or two from pro-Clinton DNC rustaffers but none were implemented.
Besides. Sanders isn't a democrat. He never was one until he decided to run. . Ran as democrat. Quit until he decided to run again.

Not a real democrat.

Why on earth would he expect to be treated like one?
 
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Deleted member 21794

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Because they committed crimes against the United States of America, that is why?

If they can work out a way to provide discovery without handing sources and methods to the Russians great, if they cant, oh well. Either way the indictments were necessary.

Don't you care about your country?
Interesting dodge, but boring. Yes, I suppose the reason for indictments are crimes. But you dodged the actual question? Here, I'll even sharpen it for you? Why indict people if you're only going to stall when they show up to demand their right to a speedy trial?
 

FakeName

Governor
Interesting dodge, but boring. Yes, I suppose the reason for indictments are crimes. But you dodged the actual question? Here, I'll even sharpen it for you? Why indict people if you're only going to stall when they show up to demand their right to a speedy trial?
You indict them because they committed crimes against the USA.

They didn't "show up", they didnt turn themselves in. They wanted discovery, which contains sources and methods, turned over to the lawyers, which would end up in the hands of the former KGB.

Of course we aren't going to do that.

Do you hate your country or something?
 

Boca

Governor
Former Technical Director of the National Security Agency under the Bush admin, who was not directly involved in the investigation.

So yeah, he wasn't involved in the investigation and therefore his testimony is speculation.
More proof you don't read or think about it if you do.

Intrinsic metadata in the publicly available files on WikiLeaks demonstrates ....

Don't you think it's time you recused yourself?
 
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