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Reparations

Boltlady

Mayor
People need to realize that our gov't has been paying reparations for a lot of years already.

It's called affirmative action.
 

Barbella

Senator
People need to realize that our gov't has been paying reparations for a lot of years already.

It's called affirmative action.
Sane (not liberal) people DO realize it, Boltlady. That's why the majority is solidly against it.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/reparations-slavery-rasmussen-reports/2019/04/10/id/911097/
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
People need to realize that our gov't has been paying reparations for a lot of years already.

It's called affirmative action.
And it's done nothing but harm blacks since it just tells them they can't make it on their own abilities.

Then the Democrats import millions of cheap labor to keep poor blacks jobless and they incent black women not to live with their baby daddies by paying them higher welfare if they don't.

Democrats were behind slavery and Jim Crow laws and they still do nothing but devastate the black community. And reparations are just another dependency trap.

I'd be all for slave owners paying reparations to slaves. Problem is there's all dead and we can't do anything about it now
 
And it's done nothing but harm blacks since it just tells them they can't make it on their own abilities.

Then the Democrats import millions of cheap labor to keep poor blacks jobless and they incent black women not to live with their baby daddies by paying them higher welfare if they don't.

Democrats were behind slavery and Jim Crow laws and they still do nothing but devastate the black community. And reparations are just another dependency trap.

I'd be all for slave owners paying reparations to slaves. Problem is there's all dead and we can't do anything about it now
All true, but if anyone should pay reparations, I believe it should be the party of slavery, Jim Crow, the KKK, and "separate-but-equal". And we all know which party that is...:D
 

Dino

Russian Asset
People need to realize that our gov't has been paying reparations for a lot of years already.

It's called affirmative action.
538 polling:

 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
People need to realize that our gov't has been paying reparations for a lot of years already.

It's called affirmative action.
My parents immigrated to the USA in 1952, well over a decade before I was born. The vast majority of US citizens are the offspring of immigrants who came to America during the huge wave between the 1890s and 1925 - well after slavery and the civil war. Large numbers of black people have no link to slavery (like BHO, for example). There are hundreds of reasons why historic wrongs need simply to be corrected (as close to in real time as possible) and then learned from.

The Democratic Party has lurched so far leftward that it is unrecognizable. From open demands for increased socialism, to federal public direct FUNDING for abortions (into deeper and later terms - through NINE months gestation), to this reparations nonsense...these folks are not reasonable - and do not reconcile to the principles of this nation’s founding. They are ideologically ALIEN to what America is about...and that gulf is widening.

Our options are Trump and this?!?

Crazy.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
The left say DACA kids shouldn't have to pay for their parents crimes but now say white kids should pay for their great-great-great grandparents wrongs! (not all white kids ancestors owned slaves and many blacks did)
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
My parents immigrated to the USA in 1952, well over a decade before I was born. The vast majority of US citizens are the offspring of immigrants who came to America during the huge wave between the 1890s and 1925 - well after slavery and the civil war. Large numbers of black people have no link to slavery (like BHO, for example). There are hundreds of reasons why historic wrongs need simply to be corrected (as close to in real time as possible) and then learned from.

The Democratic Party has lurched so far leftward that it is unrecognizable. From open demands for increased socialism, to federal public direct FUNDING for abortions (into deeper and later terms - through NINE months gestation), to this reparations nonsense...these folks are not reasonable - and do not reconcile to the principles of this nation’s founding. They are ideologically ALIEN to what America is about...and that gulf is widening.

Our options are Trump and this?!?

Crazy.
DACA is another great example of flaming Democrat hypocrisy.

Democrats are way more moral than we are. They have twice the standards!
 
My parents immigrated to the USA in 1952, well over a decade before I was born. The vast majority of US citizens are the offspring of immigrants who came to America during the huge wave between the 1890s and 1925 - well after slavery and the civil war. Large numbers of black people have no link to slavery (like BHO, for example). There are hundreds of reasons why historic wrongs need simply to be corrected (as close to in real time as possible) and then learned from.

The Democratic Party has lurched so far leftward that it is unrecognizable. From open demands for increased socialism, to federal public direct FUNDING for abortions (into deeper and later terms - through NINE months gestation), to this reparations nonsense...these folks are not reasonable - and do not reconcile to the principles of this nation’s founding. They are ideologically ALIEN to what America is about...and that gulf is widening.

Our options are Trump and this?!?

Crazy.
I've already committed to paying $1,000,000 cash (tax free!) to every single living slave I owned or their direct descendants.

The offer is open people, come and claim it!
 

Boltlady

Mayor
And it's done nothing but harm blacks since it just tells them they can't make it on their own abilities.

Then the Democrats import millions of cheap labor to keep poor blacks jobless and they incent black women not to live with their baby daddies by paying them higher welfare if they don't.

Democrats were behind slavery and Jim Crow laws and they still do nothing but devastate the black community. And reparations are just another dependency trap.

I'd be all for slave owners paying reparations to slaves. Problem is there's all dead and we can't do anything about it now
The logistics go beyond the fact that the slave owners are all dead. The fact is that through the years of slavery in this country many of the records were either lost or not kept in the first place. That means that it would be very unfair to deny said reparations to people simply because those records are not available. Giving to some and not all would be as wrong as giving them in the first place.
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
The logistics go beyond the fact that the slave owners are all dead. The fact is that through the years of slavery in this country many of the records were either lost or not kept in the first place. That means that it would be very unfair to deny said reparations to people simply because those records are not available. Giving to some and not all would be as wrong as giving them in the first place.
Well, since the slaves are all dead too, that is irrelevant as well. There is no one to pay.

No one gets compensated for the labor of their dead ancestors. Imagine with the vast history of slavery in the world if we tried to actually do that.

The closest is the Jews murdered by the Nazis. But no one is going to the German government to tax Germans to pay for the labor of the Jews. The only thing the living descendants get is if they can find a specific asset that was stolen. Typically, art work. They don't even get their land back.

This is a made up thing by the Democrats, there is no historical basis for it. It's just another vote buying scheme. And in their favorite style, with other people's money
 

Jen

Senator
People need to realize that our gov't has been paying reparations for a lot of years already.

It's called affirmative action.
Right now, though, Democrats are losing voters. Many black people are becoming independent or Republicans.

Democrat hope that paying cash for "Reparations" would buy back the black people who are leaving their party in droves.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Right now, though, Democrats are losing voters. Many black people are becoming independent or Republicans.

Democrat hope that paying cash for "Reparations" would buy back the black people who are leaving their party in droves.
Surely any one with a room temp IQ know Reparations are exactly that and going nowhere.
 

Bear Claw

President
And it's done nothing but harm blacks since it just tells them they can't make it on their own abilities.

Then the Democrats import millions of cheap labor to keep poor blacks jobless and they incent black women not to live with their baby daddies by paying them higher welfare if they don't.

Democrats were behind slavery and Jim Crow laws and they still do nothing but devastate the black community. And reparations are just another dependency trap.

I'd be all for slave owners paying reparations to slaves. Problem is there's all dead and we can't do anything about it now

LMAO

"there's" ??

True, "their" all dead but they have decendents


Or "they're" as well.
 
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LMAO

"there's" ??

True, "their" all dead but they have decendents
So, pay up! Your party enslaved them, created the KKK to terrorize and murder them, segregated them in every place you governed, and killed their unborn children by the millions in targeted attempts at genocide. Get out your wallet, man.
 

Bear Claw

President
So, pay up! Your party enslaved them, created the KKK to terrorize and murder them, segregated them in every place you governed, and killed their unborn children by the millions in targeted attempts at genocide. Get out your wallet, man.

LOL

Is not my party. I never governed anyplace. Who killed?
 
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