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FakeName

Governor
You're running in circles because you have nowhere to go. Nazis were socialists. Which is why they named themselves the socialist party. And they practiced socialism.

That you think writing a dictionary and being able to define a hammer makes one an expert in evaluating political ideologies is just so you.

Are you going to cry now? Why is your lip quivering?
More childish nonsense. Triggered again?

We covered all that already.

Review. You have been proved wrong. Repeatedly.
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
More childish nonsense. Triggered again?

We covered all that already.

Review. You have been proved wrong. Repeatedly.
Yes, you proved Nazis are free market capitalists after you proved that fairies, the Easter bunny and big foot are real and that socialism is actually capitalism. You live in a dream world
 

FakeName

Governor
Yes, you proved Nazis are free market capitalists after you proved that fairies, the Easter bunny and big foot are real and that socialism is actually capitalism. You live in a dream world
I proved nazis are right wing authoritarians.
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
I proved nazis are right wing authoritarians.
Yes, you did. First you proved the Easter Bunny is real. Then you proved Nazis controlling the economy is free market capitalism. Then you proved Santa Claus.

You live in a life of delusion ...
 

FakeName

Governor
Yes, you did. First you proved the Easter Bunny is real. Then you proved Nazis controlling the economy is free market capitalism. Then you proved Santa Claus.

You live in a life of delusion ...
Its all backed up by facts and cited.

You are making a fool of yourself?
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
Its all backed up by facts and cited.

You are making a fool of yourself?
You think you proved that Nazis are free market capitalists, aka right wing, and I'm the one making a fool of myself. Yeah, that's it ...
 

EatTheRich

President
Your "proof" (sic) was double speak.

FakeNews: The Nazis are on the right because they said so and you can believe everything Nazis say. You can't believe Nazis are socialists as they named themselves because you can't believe anything Nazis say.

Color me doubtful of that being "undeniable proof." That was only undeniable proof that you embody fake news.

Nazis are for government planned economies. That is socialism, the definition of being on the left. You're the ideology of government power and the citizens being in servitude to their government. You're a leftist, just like the Nazis
No, socialism means rule by the working class. The Nazis were for government planning with the sole aim of undermining the working class and preventing socialist revolution.
 

EatTheRich

President
Yes, because you know that Hitler was a free market capitalist who let businesses control the German economy. All the History books say that. Hitler didn't do shit to the economy, they were a bunch of free market capitalists. You live in a fantasy world. Pick up a history book
“Free market capitalism” is a centuries-old anachronism, not practiced in any advanced capitalist country by Hitler’s time, since the free market itself had given rise to the growth of trusts and the need for state-capitalist management of the economy. Hitler’s chief aim in office was to maximize business profits, which, just as in Roosevelt’s U.S. or Churchill’s UK, meant state coordination of economic production.
 

FakeName

Governor
You think you proved that Nazis are free market capitalists, aka right wing, and I'm the one making a fool of myself. Yeah, that's it ...
Try to pay attention.

You are using the terms "free market capitalists" and "right wing" as if they are interchangeable.

They are not interchangable.


One can be a right wing free market capitalist, or one can be a right wing authoritarian. The nazis were the latter.

No charge for the lesson.
 

EatTheRich

President
"Privatization" has nothing directly to do with whether an economy is capitalist or socialist. He did not give up government control over those companies. He only set up figure heads who had to follow government economic policies and get all major decisions approved by government. They were unambiguously socialist.

Pick up a history book
He gave up government control over their profits. He retained a loose control over management, at the request of the capitalists, to protect their profits. But investment decisions were made by the stock market.
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
Try to pay attention.

You are using the terms "free market capitalists" and "right wing" as if they are interchangeable.

They are not interchangable.


One can be a right wing free market capitalist, or one can be a right wing authoritarian. The nazis were the latter.

No charge for the lesson.
Thanks! That way I got my money's worth.

So socialism is not authoritarian, market participants, consumers, suppliers, employers, employees, making their own decisions is authoritarian.

I like to keep you talking. You leave no doubt to anyone with a critical mind how vacuous and contradictory leftists are
 

EatTheRich

President
Nowhere did that show that Nazis support a free market economy.

It just says stupid shit like that nationalism is a "right" ideology. In no possible way are Russia, China or North Korea for example less nationalistic than the Nazis.

You're just blowing cow farts. Nazis were socialist because they believed in a government managed economy, which is the definition of socialism and the signature of being LEFT, not right.

They called themselves socialists, and they were socialists. Fascism is a left ideology. And it's practiced almost exclusively by the left today in America as it always has been.

Democrats are the party of slavery, segregation, Jim Crow, lynching, fascism, suppression of free speech and they always have been. Democrats have never done anything for blacks or freedom
To the extent that N. Korea (for example) has exchanged Marxist internationalism for opportunist nationalism, to that extent it has turned its back on the left.
 

FakeName

Governor
Thanks! That way I got my money's worth.

So socialism is not authoritarian, market participants, consumers, suppliers, employers, employees, making their own decisions is authoritarian.

I like to keep you talking. You leave no doubt to anyone with a critical mind how vacuous and contradictory leftists are
Socialism can be authoritarian or it can be democratic. Same with capitalism.

duh.
 

EatTheRich

President
Socialism can be authoritarian or it can be democratic. Same with capitalism.

duh.
Both are authoritarian when their ruling class is weak and democratic when their ruling class is strong. Because class rule is the essence of the state and of the political expression of any class-mediated mode of production, while authoritarian rule and democracy are strategies for securing class rule. When a ruling class is strong, it is more likely to be supported by the masses, and more likely to weaken itself by relying on authoritarian means. When it is weak, it must rely on authoritarian means to avoid overthrow.
 

kaz

Small l libertarian
Socialism can be authoritarian or it can be democratic. Same with capitalism.

duh.
Gotcha. Economic freedom (capitalism) can be authoritarian. Any more stupid shit you want to make up?

That socialism is democratic makes little difference over it not being democratic since it's just a question of who is the tyrant. The majority being the tyrant is no freer for any of us to make our own choices.

There is nothing moral about voting to rob people
 

EatTheRich

President
Gotcha. Economic freedom (capitalism) can be authoritarian. Any more stupid shit you want to make up?

That socialism is democratic makes little difference over it not being democratic since it's just a question of who is the tyrant. The majority being the tyrant is no freer for any of us to make our own choices.

There is nothing moral about voting to rob people
Capitalism is “economic freedom” only if you are a billionaire. For the majority it means the tyranny of an unaccountable oligarchy.
 
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