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The lies of trump

Colorforms

Senator
And you're of the position that the right wing doesn't do the same thing?

I know the right wings problem. Early network news didn't suit them. They hated to hear how corporatism was a detriment to true democracy--and they saw a way to change it--ala

Fox News.

....which is leading to fascism.

I don't expect you to agree. You're a cultist. I'm just telling you the way it is.
I am not aware of people being attacked at DNC rallies, or having their opinions suppressed, or being ejected from businesses simply because they're "Trumpies".

So I am of the opinion that it is by far the left wing that is embracing fascism.
 

write on

Senator
I am not aware of people being attacked at DNC rallies, or having their opinions suppressed, or being ejected from businesses simply because they're "Trumpies".

So I am of the opinion that it is by far the left wing that is embracing fascism.
I am not aware of people being attacked at DNC rallies, or having their opinions suppressed, or being ejected from businesses simply because they're "Trumpies.
Then trying to listen to opposing facts.

Fox News is the propaganda machine that Mussoloni would have loved. Mussolini trump sees, and is using their fascist network to his advantage.

https://www.vox.com/2019/3/22/18275835/fox-news-trump-propaganda-tom-rosenstiel
 

EatTheRich

President
And here is the so called 'thinker', attempting to obfuscate with his off point distractions.

Trump is a fascist. Prove me wrong.
Trump for all his populist rhetoric is essentially a practitioner of elite politics ... not the mass politics of fascism. He is not even consistently rightist, much less as single-mindlessly committed to shutting down the left as a fascist leader would be.
 

EatTheRich

President
They suppress conservative speech
As fascists seldom did since they got their power from conservatives’ support

attack anyone they disagree with as racist, homophobic, etc
It’s called accountability. Fascists tend to be friendly to racism and homophobia, not to identify their opponents with them.

physically attack and threaten people with opposing views, use their platforms to incite violence, even going so far as to doxx people who participate in the political process in the way they don't like, fire people from jobs with opposing political views, Physically attack people going into and out of Trump rallies, expel people of the opposition party from businesses, etc....
These are typical of fascism but not exclusive to it. What is definitive of fascism is the alliance between elites and the masses to crush the working class and its organs (unions first and foremost).

The left is embracing fascism at every turn.
At most the actions of some on the left were fanning the flames of fascism (both as a reaction against leftist thuggery and as a direct development of it).
 

Colorforms

Senator
As fascists seldom did since they got their power from conservatives’ support



It’s called accountability. Fascists tend to be friendly to racism and homophobia, not to identify their opponents with them.



These are typical of fascism but not exclusive to it. What is definitive of fascism is the alliance between elites and the masses to crush the working class and its organs (unions first and foremost).



At most the actions of some on the left were fanning the flames of fascism (both as a reaction against leftist thuggery and as a direct development of it).
I'm sure NAZIs had all kinds of excuses for their fascist actions as well. :)
 

Colorforms

Senator
Yup. Fighting leftist “totalitarianism” was one of their favorites.
I'm sure it was, as well as blaming Jews for their economic problems. NAZIs hated Jews as much as the left does.

Today's fascist left is fascist because they hate being out of power. They're essentially children who are looking to get their way any way they can. If they can't legislate it, they'll pack the courts. If they courts don't favor them, they'll push it on people by force and intimidation.
 

write on

Senator
Trump for all his populist rhetoric is essentially a practitioner of elite politics ... not the mass politics of fascism. He is not even consistently rightist, much less as single-mindlessly committed to shutting down the left as a fascist leader would be.
Let's be clear and don't be obtuse, ETR. Trump doesn't 'necessarily' need to 'show' that he's fascist. He knows the dog whistles that work with the far right. He does this so as he will get those racists onboard come election time.

Think
 

Colorforms

Senator
Let's be clear and don't be obtuse, ETR. Trump doesn't 'necessarily' need to 'show' that he's fascists. He knows the dog whistles that work with the far right. He does this so as he will get those racists onboard come election time.

Think
I love how the left pretends the existence of "dog whistles" as if everyone on the right is conditioned to respond to certain phrases. It makes me laugh because the only ones who ever seem to hear them are leftists who can't attack someone on what they actually say, so they made up "dog whistles" in order to put words in people's mouths and then attack them on that.

It's all part and parcel of the fascist playbook. :)
 

write on

Senator
I love how the left pretends the existence of "dog whistles" as if everyone on the right is conditioned to respond to certain phrases. It makes me laugh because the only ones who ever seem to hear them are leftists who can't attack someone on what they actually say, so they made up "dog whistles" in order to put words in people's mouths and then attack them on that.

It's all part and parcel of the fascist playbook. :)
Give me an example of left wing fascism in America today.
 

write on

Senator
I love how the left pretends the existence of "dog whistles" as if everyone on the right is conditioned to respond to certain phrases. It makes me laugh because the only ones who ever seem to hear them are leftists who can't attack someone on what they actually say, so they made up "dog whistles" in order to put words in people's mouths and then attack them on that.

It's all part and parcel of the fascist playbook. :)
You not "hearing them" makes my point.
 

Colorforms

Senator
You not "hearing them" makes my point.
Kind of like the dinosaur hiding behind the sofa argument.

"There's a dinosaur hiding behind the sofa" "No there isn't, I don't see one" "If you saw it, then it wouldn't be hiding".

The sick mind that believes that all conservatives have this inborn Pavlovian instinct had to have been a democrat :)
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
They suppress conservative speech, attack anyone they disagree with as racist, homophobic, etc, physically attack and threaten people with opposing views, use their platforms to incite violence, even going so far as to doxx people who participate in the political process in the way they don't like, fire people from jobs with opposing political views, Physically attack people going into and out of Trump rallies, expel people of the opposition party from businesses, etc....

The left is embracing fascism at every turn.
Who has suppressed "conservative" speech? Meanwhile Trump has said he'd support taking broadcast licenses away from MSNBC or CNN. Of course, that would be against the law, but that didn't stop Trump from suggesting it.

Truthfully, you do not know what fascism is.
 
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