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The lies of trump

EatTheRich

President
I'm sure it was, as well as blaming Jews for their economic problems. NAZIs hated Jews as much as the left does.

Today's fascist left is fascist because they hate being out of power. They're essentially children who are looking to get their way any way they can. If they can't legislate it, they'll pack the courts. If they courts don't favor them, they'll push it on people by force and intimidation.
Fascism does not mean out-maneuvering the other side in the constitutional arena and it doesn’t mean every case of seeking a revision of power by violence (unless the Founding Fathers who pushed a revolution on people by force and intimidation when the Crown’s courts didn’t favor them were fascists).

There is anti-Semitism on the left, as there is on the right. But there is a reason the vast majority of Jews are left-leaning.
 

EatTheRich

President
Let's be clear and don't be obtuse, ETR. Trump doesn't 'necessarily' need to 'show' that he's fascist. He knows the dog whistles that work with the far right. He does this so as he will get those racists onboard come election time.

Think
He can try. But his coalition also appeals to centrists, conservatives, neo-feudalists, and other non-fascists. The tiny minority on the far right (fascist and not fascist) were not enough to sustain his electoral victory in 2016 and would not be enough in 2020.
 

EatTheRich

President
Give us an example of "leftist totalitarianism'.
“Leftist totalitarianism” could be seen in the regimes of Stalin and Pol Pot. But it was mostly (in Hitler’s time as in ours) a projection of the dictatorial impulses of the right into their leftist enemies, designed to excuse the dictatorial methods preferred by the right.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
That’s a trivial and moronic gripe compared to the guy who lied about 1/5 of the economy and undermined people’s trust by messing with their health care system.

And of course his literary agent can’t explain the lie told about his birthplace. Yup, just an innocent ‘oopsie’.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2885916/posts
Really? Do you have any evidence Obama lied about hisbirthplace? Nope. Do you know if he ever saw that PR blurb the publisher put out? Nope, ya don't.

Trump lies to stay in practice. Why lie about where your dad was born?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
That’s a trivial and moronic gripe compared to the guy who lied about 1/5 of the economy and undermined people’s trust by messing with their health care system.

And of course his literary agent can’t explain the lie told about his birthplace. Yup, just an innocent ‘oopsie’.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2885916/posts
Lied about 1/5 of the economy? WTF are you talking about? Health insurance is nowhere near that.
 

Dino

Russian Asset
Lied about 1/5 of the economy? WTF are you talking about? Health insurance is nowhere near that.
True, you’re right.
It’s not 20% of the economy. It’s only 18.2%.

The United States spends 18.2 percent of gross domestic product on health care, up slightly from 2017, according to Statista. That amount has jumped more than 260 percent since 1960, when the U.S. spent 5 percent of GDP on health costs.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/07/healthcare-topped-the-economy-as-the-biggest-issue-for-voters-now-heres-why.html

Oh wait. You said “nowhere near that”. Yeah, pretty near.
Once again, I was right and you were wrong. Nothing new there.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
True, you’re right.
It’s not 20% of the economy. It’s only 18.2%.

The United States spends 18.2 percent of gross domestic product on health care, up slightly from 2017, according to Statista. That amount has jumped more than 260 percent since 1960, when the U.S. spent 5 percent of GDP on health costs.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/07/healthcare-topped-the-economy-as-the-biggest-issue-for-voters-now-heres-why.html

Oh wait. You said “nowhere near that”. Yeah, pretty near.
Once again, I was right and you were wrong. Nothing new there.
The ACA did not involve 18% of the economy...it did nothing more the create rules for insurance companies who wanted to sell insurance on exchanges. It also prevented insurance companies from using preexisting conditions as an excuse...

Did it nationalize healthcare? No.
 
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Deleted member 21794

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Fascists hate Antifa. Antifa apes fascist tactics and may give rise to a future fascist movement (if they pivot to the right), but actual members of genuine fascist movements hate Antifa.
Antifa = today's fascists.
 
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Deleted member 21794

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Really? Do you have any evidence Obama lied about hisbirthplace? Nope. Do you know if he ever saw that PR blurb the publisher put out? Nope, ya don't.

Trump lies to stay in practice. Why lie about where your dad was born?
What did Michael, we, Michelle, mean when she said Kenya was Barack's home country?
 
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Deleted member 21794

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The ACA did not involve 18% of the economy...it did nothing more the create rules for insurance companies who wanted to sell insurance on exchanges. It also prevented insurance companies from using preexisting conditions as an excuse...

Did it nationalize healthcare? No.
Liberals want to nationalize healthcare. True or false?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
What did Michael, we, Michelle, mean when she said Kenya was Barack's home country?
Gee, could you have figured out she meant "ancestral home"? Nah. All the evidence says he was
1. Born in Honolulu. Two birth certificates, two microfiche announcements from the day
he was born.
2. His mother was a US citizen (no matter where he was born).

You have the following...
1. The PR blurb from some assistant at a publishing house who admits the mistake...
2. An edited interview with his non-english speaking grandmother.
3. Numerous forged documents
AND
4. Donald Trump who said he had sent investigators to Hawaii and found "shocking" stuff..implying they knew Obama's BC was forged. It seems he was lying.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Liberals want to nationalize healthcare. True or false?
False. Nobody...and I mean none of the current candidates for president and nobody I've heard interviewed any where, has proposed nationalized health care.

Even universal medicare is not nationalized health care...
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
False. Nobody...and I mean none of the current candidates for president and nobody I've heard interviewed any where, has proposed nationalized health care.

Even universal medicare is not nationalized health care...
You're lying. Medicare for all is the last step before the leftist dream to completely take over healthcare. Of course that's what leftists want.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Antifa = today's fascists.
Yeah, if you exclude any relationship to fascist economic principles...

So by your opinion anyone who seeks to impact someone else's free speech is a fascist...so when Trump says we should revoke licenses for MSNBC and CNN makes him a fascist?
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
Gee, could you have figured out she meant "ancestral home"? Nah. All the evidence says he was
1. Born in Honolulu. Two birth certificates, two microfiche announcements from the day
he was born.
2. His mother was a US citizen (no matter where he was born).

You have the following...
1. The PR blurb from some assistant at a publishing house who admits the mistake...
2. An edited interview with his non-english speaking grandmother.
3. Numerous forged documents
AND
4. Donald Trump who said he had sent investigators to Hawaii and found "shocking" stuff..implying they knew Obama's BC was forged. It seems he was lying.
Gee, why didn't she say ancestral home? And his mother was American, yes?
 
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