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Media double standard

I just know the truth. The program didn't start with President Trump, you idiot.

Put that crack pipe down.
Of course previous admins rescued kids from abusive situations but a program of kidnapping children systematically without exception for the sake of deterring migration is exclusively Trump ... no other admin did this.

You're the idiot for not knowing the difference
 

llovejim

Current Champion
I did state a fact.

It just wasn't the one you preferred.

It was one you apparently are uncomfortable with.
you did not state a fact concerning what the first poster said, that obama separated 89,000 kids from their parents, while trump only separated 1,900. you chose to go outside that parameter and post numbers concerning how bush and obama provided detention centers for UNACCOMPANIED MINORS caught crossing the border until they could be screened and reunited with family....they did not have a "zero tolerance" policy that trump initiated of separating ALL KIDS FROM THEIR PARENTS...are you really this slow or are you in some sort of medically induced coma that makes it impossible for you to think and read and understand simple facts?
 

Zam-Zam

Senator
you did not state a fact concerning what the first poster said, that obama separated 89,000 kids from their parents, while trump only separated 1,900. you chose to go outside that parameter and post numbers concerning how bush and obama provided detention centers for UNACCOMPANIED MINORS caught crossing the border until they could be screened and reunited with family....they did not have a "zero tolerance" policy that trump initiated of separating ALL KIDS FROM THEIR PARENTS...are you really this slow or are you in some sort of medically induced coma that makes it impossible for you to think and read and understand simple facts?

It's an inconvenient fact - The Obama administration locked immigrant children up in cages. How you feel about that is up to you, but it remains a fact either way.

Have a great day.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Trump is enforcing Obama programs, these aren’t trumps.

LOL, sadly not surprising you didn’t know that. Then again, the media doesn’t report it, so
Even if you were correct, it is no excuse to say "I'm only doing it because the previous president did".
 

llovejim

Current Champion
It's an inconvenient fact - The Obama administration locked immigrant children up in cages. How you feel about that is up to you, but it remains a fact either way.

Have a great day.
how would you deal with unaccompanied children caught illegally crossing the border- fly them to the Trump Mar-a-Lago resort? what part of that is not what the first poster claimed, that is not what the topic is about, do you not understand? are you seriously this bum-fuddled you keep repeating irrelevant crap? yes, we know bush and obama both put kids in detention centers caught crossing the border when there was no parent with them. that is the humane thing to do. what are you even talking about? are you going to accuse obama of feeding them and keeping them in clean areas with access to showers and toilets, too? and? so what?
 

llovejim

Current Champion
Even if you were correct, it is no excuse to say "I'm only doing it because the previous president did".
but it is not correct to say that. not even close. as shown by multiple sources about 20 freaking times. what a hardheaded maroon.
 

llovejim

Current Champion
What I stated was true.

Can you handle da truth?

:p
your first reply with these irrelevant numbers were an attempt to prove me wrong and the first lying poster right. when you did that, you were wrong. nobody is denying bush and obama detained unaccompanied minors who they caught crossing the border illegally. that is the humane thing to do. do you think they should have just let them wander around without any adult supervision and hope for the best? what is your freaking point?
 

reason10

Governor
Of course previous admins rescued kids from abusive situations but a program of kidnapping children systematically without exception for the sake of deterring migration is exclusively Trump ... no other admin did this.

You're the idiot for not knowing the difference
There was zero kidnapping of children by the border patrol. The children who were taken and put into detention camps were not related to those animals who brought them over. They were just get past the border cards.
 

llovejim

Current Champion
There is NO difference. You're a LIAR for trying to say there is on.

This was signed into LAW. This wasn't some Trump executive order, you Moe Ron.

Put the crack pipe down.
why do you lie so much? trump boasted it was a change in policy. so did goober jeff sessions. are you completely conscious when you post such crazy ass lies and weird ass irrelevant comments in general? here, have your guardian read this to you and then explain-

here ya go- (even fox had to report this without lying)

What Trump's 'zero-tolerance' immigration policy means ... - Fox News

https://www.foxnews.com/.../what-trumps-zero-tolerance-immigration-policy-means-for...

Jun 19, 2018 - After Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced a “zero-tolerance” policy ... Under the Obama administration, families were detained together in administrative ICE custody,

Sessions defends zero tolerance immigration policy | Fox News

https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/sessions-defends-zero-tolerance-immigration-policy
Jun 18, 2018 - Sessions defends zero tolerance immigration policy

We asked every Texan in Congress about family separations at the ...

https://www.dallasnews.com › News › Politics

Jun 19, 2018 - Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced the policy in early April. Votes on two House immigration bills are expected this week. ... Pete Olson of Sugar Land also expressed his support for efforts to ... “I think we ought to keep families together,” the Republican said Tuesday morning on Fox News Radio.

Jeff Sessions argues it's necessary to separate children from parents ...

https://www.cbsnews.com/.../jeff-sessions-argues-its-necessary-to-separate-children-fro...

Jun 5, 2018 - Session said he wishes the United States could afford to keep parents and children together after illegal immigrants are detained, but remained ...

What you need to know about the Trump administration's zero - PolitiFact

https://www.politifact.com/.../what-you-need-know-about-trump-administrations-zer/

Claim: Speaking of immigration policy, says "we have to break up families."
Claimed by: Donald Trump
Fact check by PolitiFact: Result of Trump policy

Trump reverses course, signs order ending his policy of separating ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/...family.../cc79db9a-7480-11e8-b4b7-308400242c2e...

Jun 20, 2018 - (Peter Stevenson/The Washington Post) ... The plan would keep families together in federal custody while ... Trump had repeatedly defended his immigration crackdown, ... Separately, Attorney General Jeff Sessions met with Senate .... this week to change how the zero-tolerance policywas being enforced.

Sessions: Parents, children entering U.S. illegally will be separated

https://www.nbcnews.com/.../sessions-parents-children-entering-us-illegally-will-be-se...

May 7, 2018 - Attorney General Jeff Sessions addressed immigration enforcement ... By Pete Williams ... from their children, instead of keeping them in detention together. ... DHS does not have a blanket policy on separating families as
 

llovejim

Current Champion
There was zero kidnapping of children by the border patrol. The children who were taken and put into detention camps were not related to those animals who brought them over. They were just get past the border cards.
what are border cards? do they need to be dealt with? are you having some sort of fit right now? you posted about 4 insanely untrue posts in a row, breaking your previous record. get some help.
 

llovejim

Current Champion
This is why most people believe Obama was such an awful president. He did so little while in office and what he did was very bad for the country.
no, an obvious lie. obama was just chosen the most popular man in the world for the 11th straight time, ahead of racist trump both times trump has been president during the polling, when usually the president wins the title. but everybody with a brain knows what a racist pig trump is. here is what snopes said-

Since 1946, the Gallup analytics company has conducted surveys to identify the “Most Admired Man” and “Most Admired Woman” in the world (although in 1946 and 1947 only a single “Most Admired Person” was named). With only a handful of exceptions across those several decades, the most admired man has typically been the current president of the United States.

It should be no surprise, then, to see that President Barack Obama held the “Most Admired Man” designation for all eight years he occupied the White House, from 2009 through 2016. It may come as something of a surprise, however, to learn that Obama has actually maintained that status for 11 straight years, beginning the year before he assumed office (2008) and continuing for the two years since he has been out of office (2017-18).

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/barack-obama-most-admired/

A Gallup survey has identified Barack Obama as the 'Most Admired Man' in the world for 11 straight years.

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There was zero kidnapping of children by the border patrol. The children who were taken and put into detention camps were not related to those animals who brought them over. They were just get past the border cards.
This is false on its face and even the Trump admin admits in court they took kids of for the sake of deterring their parents from migrating to America

Trump says to prosecute migrants 'you have to take the children away'

https://www.thejournal.ie/trump-separation-children-migrants-4080296-Jun2018/

“I don’t want children taken away from parents”, he told a gathering of small business owners, before adding: “When you prosecute the parents for coming in illegally, which should happen, you have to take the children away.”

We don’t have to prosecute them, but then we are not prosecuting them for coming in illegally. That’s not good.”
 
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