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Why the "Trump's a Racist" Narrative Doesn't Hold Any Credibility

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Using buzzfeed to defend buzzfeed???? ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!! Good mentally ill, left winger. Now what did Mueller say? https://thehill.com/homenews/media/439594-mueller-report-rebuts-claim-trump-directed-cohen-to-lie-to-congress

"with regard to Cohen's false statements to Congress, while there is evidence ... that the President knew Cohen provided false testimony to Congress about the Trump Tower Moscow project, the evidence available to us does not establish that the President directed or aided Cohen's false testimony."
Cohen said he was directed to lie. Mueller said there is no evidence. So it is Trump's word vs Cohen's. Trump lies a few times a day. I find Cohen more credible.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
"And while some suffer far more under racism’s burden, some feel to a far greater extent discrimination’s sting. Although most of us do our best to guard against it and teach our children better, none of us is entirely innocent. No institution is entirely immune. And that includes our police departments. We know this."

There is zero justification talking about racism in police departments in front of the families, friends, co-workers, and other mourners who were to honor these fallen officers who had put there lives on the line to protect the ability of the black lies matter group to protest and who had been viciously slaughtered by a left wing terrorist targeting white officers in direct response to Obama's rhetoric. Even at the funeral Obama couldn't let it go without taking a jab at police departments. This is sheer evil. Period. Your defense of it makes you just as evil.
There was every reason to talk about racism and nowhere did Obama accuse the Dallas PD of racism. Obama was not there to simply console those who had lost loved ones and friends. He was there to bring a community together. You do that by arguing against violence as a solution. Obama did that. He also spoke eloquently about the sacrifice of being a law enforcement officer and the respect they are due for there service.

I guess you missed that. Your selective outrage makes you stupid...pure and simple.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
You are eviscerated and humiliated again. Dude, take some pride for once. You are getting worked and everyone is laughing at you. Admit you are gullible dunce and just stop doing it. Just doubling down on this left wing insanity is only making your mental health and IQ look worse.

The laughter you think you hear is people laughing at your lame attempts to twist what others say. Obama speaks for 45 minutes and 90% of that is in praise of the police and first responders...you pick out two sentences and think you've boiled his speech down to pure evil...You failed.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Yeah, if you use an 8% statistics to say "people on the right" then it's safe to say America believes the Earth is flat. Good lord, dunce, just admit you're an idiot and didn't read the poll. Doubling down and claiming 8% is something to brag about is sheer insanity. You are wrong. Just admit it for once. Lulz
For some reason you think 8% equals ONLY PEOPLE ON THE LEFT BELIEVE TRUMP IS A RACIST.....

Of course you are wrong.
 

EatTheRich

President
Do you have any evidence that the killer had ever been subject to racism or brutality at the hands of anyone in the Dallas PD?
Not that he confronted any such brutality in any direct way, no. But he left social media statements indicating what he was reacting against.
 

Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
What genetics actually show is that race is not a reliable proxy for common ancestry or genetic endowment.
WOW!
What history actually shows is that when discrimination has been reduced, the gaps between whites and Blacks have decreased.
WOW!
The assertion is that racism is a possible cause of racial inequality, and there is no other possible cause because there is no such thing as race aside from systems of advantage and disadvantage.
WOW!

No one even has to debate you when it comes to your "racism" thing; you bury yourself.

Because any other explanation is racist. Either the different outcomes reflect different opportunities, or they reflect one race’s superiority.
Exactly. You set up a unwinnable case. People either agree with you or they're evil racists.

Except your set up is flawed because being different doesn't mean being better or worse. You -- that's really a plural 'you' for all the misguided SJW's -- refuse to acknowledge that recognizing differences isn't the same as animus or bigotry or prejudice. You just call seeing the obvious "racism" and pat yourselves on the back for being enlightened and progressive.
 

Nostra

Governor
Good Lord! This moronic fantasy that Republicans are racist is so played out.

You clowns tried in in 2016, and it blew up in your face. It is a worn out lie.

Why don't you idiots come up with some actual ideas for the country for a change? Trotting out racism every 4 years is lame.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
Here is what I wrote:

The regulations proposed by McCain in the senate were not blocked by anyone. The republicans had the majority. You claim democrats in the House blocked the legislation...tell me how.

It's called the FILIBUSTER. Read up on how the Senate works. You cannot have a simple majority and pass a bill like this. In this case, it was the simple threat of filibuster. Many bills that make out of committee on a party line vote often never go the floor because the party in the minority has made it clear it will never pass the filibuster.

Clear back in 2003:

"The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.

Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.

The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.

The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt — is broken. A report by outside investigators in July concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates.

Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.

”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”

Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.

”I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,” Mr. Watt said."



https://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/11/business/new-agency-proposed-to-oversee-freddie-mac-and-fannie-mae.html

Democrats were to blame for the subprime crisis because everyone who wanted to avert it was a "racist". Disgusting cretins.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
You said it wasn't doctored...clearly it was.

No. The clip was exactly Pelosi's words. Because it makes you mad that the clip was show more than once doesn't make it "doctored". It just makes you desperate and a liar.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
Find the post of mine claiming Trump issued that order. I won't expect that you will, because you can't. I posted the link to the Navy saying "yes, the White House asked us to move the ship or cover the name".....Are you now saying the Navy is a bunch of left wing liars?
Nope. You are still back-peddling. The original story you tried to push was that the President had ordered the name covered and the name was covered when he visited. Neither one was true. If the name was never actually covered during his visit and he knew nothing about any request of the sort then who the hell cares? Once again, just own up to it. You were duped and you were caught spreading phony propaganda. Don't come back and say "well, someone somewhere may have said something about nothing that happened....but, but, Trump". You sound extraordinarily dumb.
 
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Mick

The Right is always right
Cohen said he was directed to lie. Mueller said there is no evidence. So it is Trump's word vs Cohen's. Trump lies a few times a day. I find Cohen more credible.
Right, there was no evidence of it. Anyone can say whatever they want. We have these things called facts. You and your mentally ill, low IQ tend to peddle propaganda regardless of whether it is factually based or not. Buzzfeed was humiliated by Mueller and the facts. Their response? Try to spin that somehow they were justified. Christ almighty, man, you are getting absolutely worked here. "Mueller said it didn't happen.....but Cohen said it's true.......that means it's true!" Who in their right mind would support such nonsense? Buzzfeed, Democrats, and the low IQ part of the electorate such as yourself.
 

Colorforms

Senator
So you think that pointing out how white your party is is racist? LOL
Not me, it's YOUR standard. Obviously then you consider my counter statement racist or you wouldn't have asked. Thanks for confirming what we all already knew. Leftists are nothing but racist hypocrites who only use race to attack their political opposition, just like any good fascist does.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
There was every reason to talk about racism and nowhere did Obama accuse the Dallas PD of racism.

He accused police of racism at the funerals of police officers murdered by a left wing terrorist inspired by Obama because they were white. Zero excuse and the families and friends of these police officers were appalled. The ONLY thing he had any business condemning in that situation is the hatred by black lies matter and Obama himself for inspiring these killers. He should have begged forgiveness, not thrown out accusations against those killed and their coworkers.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
It's called the FILIBUSTER. Read up on how the Senate works. You cannot have a simple majority and pass a bill like this. In this case, it was the simple threat of filibuster. Many bills that make out of committee on a party line vote often never go the floor because the party in the minority has made it clear it will never pass the filibuster.

Clear back in 2003:

"The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.

Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.

The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.

The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt — is broken. A report by outside investigators in July concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates.

Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.

”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”

Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.

”I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,” Mr. Watt said."



https://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/11/business/new-agency-proposed-to-oversee-freddie-mac-and-fannie-mae.html

Democrats were to blame for the subprime crisis because everyone who wanted to avert it was a "racist". Disgusting cretins.
So there was a threat...by whom? The bill never came to the floor for a vote, so the fact is that you can say there was a threat all you like, but republicans had the majority, controlled the committees and never brought a bill to be voted on. 53 republicans only needed 7 democrats or independents to break a filibuster.

Representatives Frank and Watt did not have the power to stop anything...they were not in the senate...and they had no power in the House, since they were in the minority.

Freddie and Fannie did not originate loans. Companies like CountryWide did. They reacted to the republican legislation like the Gramm-Leach-Bliley act that did away with any federal oversight over the derivatives market or the republican Mortgage Downpayment Assistance act. Congress did not originate no doc loans...mortgage originators did. Banks did not go out on a limb because Freddie or Fannie told them to...they did it because the Bush administration changed the rules on liquidity and said it was ok to borrow $40 for every $1 in deposits.....the previous rule had been 15::1. The change meant that banks would be insolvent if what they'd borrowed the money to invest in dropped just 3%....

Lehman didn't go under because of Freddie and Fannie.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Not me, it's YOUR standard. Obviously then you consider my counter statement racist or you wouldn't have asked. Thanks for confirming what we all already knew. Leftists are nothing but racist hypocrites who only use race to attack their political opposition, just like any good fascist does.
And here you are using race to attack your political opposition...being the good fascist you are....

By the way...you don't seem to know what fascism is. You should look it up.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
For some reason you think 8% equals ONLY PEOPLE ON THE LEFT BELIEVE TRUMP IS A RACIST.....

Of course you are wrong.

Considering the factual statistics which of these statements are more ACCURATE?

People on the right think Trump is racist.

People on the right know Trump is not racist.

Which would be more distortion of the beliefs and knowledge of those on the right?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
He accused police of racism at the funerals of police officers murdered by a left wing terrorist inspired by Obama because they were white. Zero excuse and the families and friends of these police officers were appalled. The ONLY thing he had any business condemning in that situation is the hatred by black lies matter and Obama himself for inspiring these killers. He should have begged forgiveness, not thrown out accusations against those killed and their coworkers.
He said there was racism in a lot of places, including police departments. He also said the shooter himself was a racist.

Are you claiming there is no evidence of racism in police departments?

He also said the Dallas police department was one that had made incredible strides in improving their relationship with minority communities and had helped plan the BLM march...From his own words....

Faced with this violence, we wonder if the divides of race in America can ever be bridged. We wonder if an African-American community that feels unfairly targeted by police, and police departments that feel unfairly maligned for doing their jobs, can ever understand each other’s experience.

When the bullets started flying, the men and women of the Dallas police, they did not flinch and they did not react recklessly. They showed incredible restraint. Helped in some cases by protesters, they evacuated the injured, isolated the shooter, and saved more lives than we will ever know. (Applause.) We mourn fewer people today because of your brave actions. (Applause.) “Everyone was helping each other,” one witness said. “It wasn’t about black or white. Everyone was picking each other up and moving them away.” See, that’s the America I know.

The police helped Shetamia Taylor as she was shot trying to shield her four sons. She said she wanted her boys to join her to protest the incidents of black men being killed. She also said to the Dallas PD, “Thank you for being heroes.” And today, her 12-year old son wants to be a cop when he grows up. That’s the America I know.

we've been reminded that the Dallas Police Department has been at the forefront of improving relations between police and the community. (Applause.) The murder rate here has fallen. Complaints of excessive force have been cut by 64 percent. The Dallas Police Department has been doing it the right way.

These men, this department -- this is the America I know. And today, in this audience, I see people who have protested on behalf of criminal justice reform grieving alongside police officers. I see people who mourn for the five officers we lost but also weep for the families of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile. In this audience, I see what’s possible -- (applause) -- I see what's possible when we recognize that we are one American family, all deserving of equal treatment, all deserving of equal respect, all children of God. That’s the America that I know.

We know that the overwhelming majority of police officers do an incredibly hard and dangerous job fairly and professionally. They are deserving of our respect and not our scorn. (Applause.) And when anyone, no matter how good their intentions may be, paints all police as biased or bigoted, we undermine those officers we depend on for our safety. And as for those who use rhetoric suggesting harm to police, even if they don’t act on it themselves -- well, they not only make the jobs of police officers even more dangerous, but they do a disservice to the very cause of justice that they claim to promote
 
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