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Which is what Hunter Biden did. he is a private citizen who did nothing wrong. Yet somehow doing nothing wrong deserves scrutiny. It doesn't follow.
Which is what Hunter Biden did. he is a private citizen who did nothing wrong. Yet somehow doing nothing wrong deserves scrutiny. It doesn't follow.
i would think his father exerting his influence would be the issue.Which is what Hunter Biden did. he is a private citizen who did nothing wrong. Yet somehow doing nothing wrong deserves scrutiny. It doesn't follow.
Exerting influence is in his job description.i would think his father exerting his influence would be the issue.
1. yes, legacy admissions to yale are fairly common. so? (it is the same as Hunter Biden getting hired to be on the board of a gas company chartered in Cypress. like I said, the kids of famous, rich, powerful kids get creampuff jobs, get to go to Yale with crummy grades...get it?)
2. Great, Hunter earning millions from a corrupt gas company, whose owner has ties to russia, and is himself an oligarch, is no big deal. (but..as you demonstrate...biden Sr went in to clean that up. (no, he did not. that is where you are not on the right page- Biden went to Ukraine to deliver the US and EU message that Shokin had to go or no more international aide..PERIOD. do you really think the Irish Times would describe his firing like shown because they even knew about Hunter Biden or Joe Biden or Burisma in particular? Why do you believe the EU was part of some Biden deep state? do you see how ridiculous you are being about this bullshit?)
EU hails sacking of Ukraine's prosecutor Viktor Shokin
https://www.irishtimes.com › news › world › europe › eu-hails-sacking-of-...
Mar 29, 2016 - Viktor Shokin, who has been fired as prosecutor general of Ukraine after an ... prosecutor general and called for a crackdown on corruption, even as the ... ensure that [his] office . . . becomes independent from political influence and pressure
3. why then was Shokin replaced with an even bigger pro russian advocate (Lutsenko) and Biden Sr simply accept it..? (who said he was? how do you know who was more pro-russian? did you see the date of the EU loving Shokin getting fired- March 2016...I am not sure when Lutsenko took over for sure, or if he is pro-russian or what, but we do know Shokin is and we do know the EU FREAKING CELEBRATED IT..WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT? your own opinion of Lutsenko? If Lutsenko was as bad or worse, why is there no google references to any stories of the EU being pissed off about Lutsenko, but there is of them celebrating the firing of Shokin, who Trump wanted Zelensky to reinstate 3 years later!! like an idiot)
4. EU was pursuing corruption...GB had a case and was holding (froze) 23 million is assets (Burisma). it was only because Zlochevsky paid fines (payoff) that things dried up. (and....what does that have to do with either biden? do you see what a freaking gigantic nothing burger it is, as far as it being relevant to Trump extortion or to any corruption by either biden, from 3 freaking years ago?)
5.yes trump is too stupid. (you got that right!!)
i found this about Lutsenko on google-
Giuliani turns on 'honest' Ukrainian prosecutor who says ...
https://www.nbcnews.com › politics › trump-impeachment-inquiry › giulia...
Oct 1, 2019 - Rudy Giuliani had nothing but praise for Ukrainian prosecutor Yuriy Lutsenko — until he didn't. ... In an early May phone call with NBC, Giuliani called Lutsenko a .... The move was also welcomed by the European Union
In an early May phone call with NBC, Giuliani called Lutsenko a “much more honest guy” than the previous, Kremlin-aligned prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, whom the Ukrainian Parliament sacked for failing to crack down on corruption.
In May, PolitiFact also thoroughly researched the issue, concluding: "We found no evidence to support the idea that Joe Biden advocated with his son's interests in mind, as the message suggests. It's not even clear that the company was actively under investigation or that a change in prosecutors benefited it.”
Ukraine’s Parliament, under duress from Western allies to crack down on corruption, voted overwhelmingly for Shokin’s removal amid accusations that he blocked major cases against allies and influential figures and undermined efforts to root out graft. The move was also welcomed by the European Union. The country was also at risk of losing access to a critical International Monetary Fund program in part over the issue
It wasn't just the phone call that consititutes the quid pro quo.try this at the beginning of the snippet you wish to quote>>>>
but conjecture of what was meant by Trump's interactions with Zelensky is definitionally a quid pro quo.
Which doesn't involve the president's personal lawyer in any way, shape, or form.odd juxtaposition, especially considering the US Ukraine stance on mutual cooperation as relates corrupt practices and endeavors to ferret them out.
but not in trumps?Exerting influence is in his job description.
but there wasntIt wasn't just the phone call that consititutes the quid pro quo.
Which doesn't involve the president's personal lawyer in any way, shape, or form.
Exerting influence for personal gain is not.but not in trumps?
That's not what the people under oath said.but there wasnt
try this at the beginning of the snippet you wish to quote>>>>
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and place this at the end of the referenced>>>>
but there wasnt
Getting the prosecutor fired that was investigating his son's company isn't for personal gain? Wow. You're a funny little man.Exerting influence for personal gain is not.
Nope, if he got him fired FOR investigating Burisma, then maybe. But that isn't the case. So y'all got nothing.Getting the prosecutor fired that was investigating his son's company isn't for personal gain?
And NO ONE under oath has EVER lied, have they.That's not what the people under oath said.
All you need to do is prove they are lying.And NO ONE under oath has EVER lied, have they.
Shokin was not fired for prosecuting anybody...read something. he was fired FOR NOT PROSECUTING ANYBODY...goddamn. read something. and only a fool who hasn't read a paper in 10 years thinks Hunter Biden was anything more than a figurehead lawyer named to the Burisma board chiefly due to his last name, 2 years after Burisma had been cleared of any wrong doing...if the owner of Burisma, the CEO, the head enchilada, the decision maker did something wrong after Biden was hired WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH BIDEN? he was not a player, he was only there because he did have a law degree and he had ties to money makers in Washington, and his dad was Joe Biden...lots of kids of rich and important people get hired for that same reason...Getting the prosecutor fired that was investigating his son's company isn't for personal gain? Wow. You're a funny little man.
All you need to do is prove they are lying.
Current liberal methodology is that accusation is proof.All you need to do is prove they are lying.
The emails were pleading with the Obama/Biden administration to do something to stop the investigation and used the name Hunter Biden as why it should be important. A few weeks later qid pro Joe shook them down. The new guy came in and got the case tossed.Nope, if he got him fired FOR investigating Burisma, then maybe. But that isn't the case. So y'all got nothing.
The emails were pleading with the Obama/Biden administration to do something to stop the investigation and used the name Hunter Biden as why it should be important. A few weeks later qid pro Joe shook them down. The new guy came in and got the case tossed.
Those are the facts. You can cry all you want but it's pretty damn clear what went on.