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EatTheRich

President
Here you go commie;
https://airmail.news/issues/2019-11-2/how-to-serve-man
From the link;
"Facing one of the worst famines in history, the Soviet government invited the American Relief Administration, the brainchild of Herbert Hoover, future president of the United States, to save Russia from ruin. For two years, the A.R.A. fed over 10 million men, women, and children across a million square miles of territory in what was the largest humanitarian operation in history.

Why would the Soviet government have helped Wolfe to uncover its miserable failure at feeding its own people?
Its efforts prevented a catastrophe of incalculable proportions—the loss of millions of lives, social unrest on a massive scale, and, quite possibly, the collapse of the Soviet state. Having completed their mission by the summer of 1923, the Americans packed up and went home. Before the A.R.A. left, the leaders of the Soviet government showered the organization with expressions of undying gratitude and promises never to forget America’s help.

“An act of humanity and benevolence,” Machiavelli wrote in his Discourses on Livy, “will at all times have more influence over the minds of men than violence and ferocity.” Machiavelli was wrong. The Soviet government quickly began to erase the memory of American charity, and what it could not erase, it sought to distort into something ugly. But it wasn’t just the Russians. Back in the United States, where Americans had followed the work of the A.R.A. with great interest, knowledge of Hoover’s achievement faded. By the time Hoover was voted out of office a decade later, during the Great Depression, the story of this extraordinary humanitarian mission had been forgotten. Now, almost a hundred years later, few people in America or Russia have ever heard of the A.R.A. Here is the story of one of the most horrifying aspects of the famine, and how the Americans sought to document it.

All P.R. Is Good P.R.
During his stay in the Soviet Union, William Garner, the P.R. man for the A.R.A., pushed for information on a subject of particular interest: cannibalism. He said he was hoping to get a chance to sit down with a cannibal for an interview before heading home. This wasn’t just morbid curiosity on his part; rather, he had been directed by his bosses to find solid, incontrovertible evidence of cannibalism. The A.R.A. had received Soviet reports on the problem but wanted its own proof. “We have ’em,” William Kelly, stationed with the A.R.A. in the city of Ufa, told Garner, “but they won’t talk for publication.”

Kelly had heard plenty of stories since arriving in Russia. He was convinced there had been thousands of cases of cannibalism that winter, but it was difficult to get precise details. Few Soviet officials were willing to talk to the Americans about this most horrifying aspect of the famine, largely out of a sense of shame and embarrassment for what they felt it said about their country. Nonetheless, a few had shared with Kelly what they knew, telling him that cannibals were dealt with forcefully when caught—put on trial and punished, some of the guilty even sentenced to death for their crimes."

More at the link.

You were saying?
1. Did you miss the part about most of the people being fed?
2. 3 million in 4 years works out t just over 2,000 per day ... well short of the 25,000 baseline set by the imperialist world order.
 

EatTheRich

President
Immigration was severely limited for 40 years, so your rant about "have always made us great" is silly.

The fact is we are $22 trillion in debt and simply can't afford to take in any loser that happens to make it onto US soil. That has NEVER been our values, your warm, fuzzy huffing and puffing aside.

It has NEVER been our values to entice people to come here illegally by offering them free health care if they can just make it across our border.

You are simply making things up as you go.
The U.S. wasn’t deeply in debt when its rulers started restricting immigration. You are using the failures of your policies to justify more of the same policies.
 

FakeName

Governor

Some of us understand that some cultures simply cannot coexist together,.
Which Cultures?

You know that is what people like you have always said right?

That is exactly what people like you said about the Irish and Italians...." mackarel snapping Catholics can't co exist with proper Protestants like us."

They were wrong then. Those people made America great.

You are wrong now. Immigrants are still making America great.
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
Which Cultures?

You know that is what people like you have always said right?

That is exactly what people like you said about the Irish and Italians...." mackarel snapping Catholics can't co exist with proper Protestants like us."

They were wrong then. Those people made America great.

You are wrong now. Immigrants are still making America great.
All we ask is people respect our laws and come here legally. Why are you so opposed to that?
 

FakeName

Governor
All we ask is people respect our laws and come here legally. Why are you so opposed to that?
For most of our History people just showed up. there was no legal or illegal. They didn't ask permission they just came.

Now, our immigration laws are dysfunctional. They need to be fixed.

Are you willing to support fixing our immigration laws so that they work?
 
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Deleted member 21794

Guest
For most of our History people just showed up. there was no legal or illegal. They didn't ask permission they just came.

Now, our immigration laws are dysfunctional. They need to be fixed.

Are you willing to support fixing our immigration laws so that they work?
What do you think needs to be fixed beyond simply enforcing existing laws and securing our borders?
 

FakeName

Governor
What do you think needs to be fixed beyond simply enforcing existing laws and securing our borders?
well for example, there are rice Mills, walnut hullers, tomato processing plants, and fields that need young men for labor. our legal immigration system does not allow them to get that labor legally. For a young Mexican man to apply to come legally it will take at least a decade. Meanwhile they have a job waiting now, and the employer needs the labor now.

That needs to be fixed. Applying should take a week not a decade.

One complaint you all make about the illegals living here already and established is "if they care about our laws why haven't they gotten legal or even become citizens?"

The answer is because our laws do not allow them to. They would have if they could have.

That needs to change.
 

freyasman

Senator
The words on the statue of liberty are OUR values.

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses, yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless, tempest tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.
No, not really.
 

freyasman

Senator
Our Values being American values.

That is why they are on the Statue of Liberty.
I guess having a welcome mat on the doorstep means that household is obligated to take in and house any wretch (or multiple ones) that shows up at the door. Any thief, murderer, gangbanger, or even just illiterate and useless bum, is now the responsibility of the person whose property they manged to walk, run, swim, or crawl onto.

That's what your claiming, anyway.:rolleyes:


See, I don't thinks so and neither do a few hundred million others, despite all your whining.
 

freyasman

Senator
Which Cultures?

You know that is what people like you have always said right?

That is exactly what people like you said about the Irish and Italians...." mackarel snapping Catholics can't co exist with proper Protestants like us."

They were wrong then. Those people made America great.

You are wrong now. Immigrants are still making America great.
"Immigrants are still making America great."

There...... right there. That's at least the 3rd or 4th time you've tried to make this about "immigrants" rather than invaders, because you think you can somehow pretend that one is the same as another.
And that the rest of us won't notice that weak shit.
 

FakeName

Governor
I guess having a welcome mat on the doorstep means that household is obligated to take in and house any wretch (or multiple ones) that shows up at the door. Any thief, murderer, gangbanger, or even just illiterate and useless bum, is now the responsibility of the person whose property they manged to walk, run, swim, or crawl onto.

That's what your claiming, anyway.:rolleyes:


See, I don't thinks so and neither do a few hundred million others, despite all your whining.
No , we shouldn't take in "Any thief, murderer, gangbanger".

No That is not at all what I am claiming.

Who is the liar now?
 

FakeName

Governor
"Immigrants are still making America great."

There...... right there. That's at least the 3rd or 4th time you've tried to make this about "immigrants" rather than invaders, because you think you can somehow pretend that one is the same as another.
And that the rest of us won't notice that weak shit.
Immigration today is the same as it always has been.

These people are no more "Invaders" then previous groups were.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Which Cultures?

You know that is what people like you have always said right?

That is exactly what people like you said about the Irish and Italians...." mackarel snapping Catholics can't co exist with proper Protestants like us."

They were wrong then. Those people made America great.

You are wrong now. Immigrants are still making America great.
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Frey is married to a black woman...……….

Illegal Immigrants are raping and killing Americans and bankrupting your Cali state and you support them!
 
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Dawg

President
Supporting Member
well for example, there are rice Mills, walnut hullers, tomato processing plants, and fields that need young men for labor. our legal immigration system does not allow them to get that labor legally. For a young Mexican man to apply to come legally it will take at least a decade. Meanwhile they have a job waiting now, and the employer needs the labor now.

That needs to be fixed. Applying should take a week not a decade.

One complaint you all make about the illegals living here already and established is "if they care about our laws why haven't they gotten legal or even become citizens?"

The answer is because our laws do not allow them to. They would have if they could have.

That needs to change.
You're here illegally aren't you...………...or have family that is...…...
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
I guess having a welcome mat on the doorstep means that household is obligated to take in and house any wretch (or multiple ones) that shows up at the door. Any thief, murderer, gangbanger, or even just illiterate and useless bum, is now the responsibility of the person whose property they manged to walk, run, swim, or crawl onto.

That's what your claiming, anyway.:rolleyes:


See, I don't thinks so and neither do a few hundred million others, despite all your whining.

Betcha Fake locks the doors to his crib at night and when he leaves
 
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