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In the zeal to appease the gimme gimme demographic, Dems inadvertently hand Bernie the primary

They didn’t collapse. But they lost ground due to their focus on incremental gains for their members, such as higher wages, and not liberation of humanity, including abolition of the inherently exploitative wages system.
They essentially collapsed. You have services unions instead of manufacturing unions because the demands were to great and economically unsustainable. They exploited the owners and never bought into the system. They could have bought shares and didn't.
 
Some people don’t have the money to hire others or to live without earning their living by the sweat of their brow. You wouldn’t understand.
No, I'm pointing out that to be hired is a gift most can't even give themselves. And as Lincoln stated just a step in life towards where you can hire yourself and be emancipated. Or if you choose to be hired out the whole time and taken care in that regard by someone else to be grateful.
 

Nutty Cortez

Dummy (D) NY
@EatTheRich
Now see how the left is thefty. What you describe, especially in a burgeoning economy that ETR denies, is plainly put about theft. And not the Robin Hood kind where the taxes were stolen to be returned to the taxed but where the taxes were raised to give to the untaxed. Plainly state sponsored theft.

We leftists are not Robin Hood. We are Robbin' Good.

We pretend to be Poor, Rob from the rich- and keep it. Then cry about the plight of the poor :)
 

EatTheRich

President
Billions. Wtf does it have to do with this skewed stuff you're peddling?
If billions of people are working harder than either of us have worked a day in our lives, and living from hand to mouth in situations of squalor, as the social system you defend, capitalism, requires to make it work, then it is not true that anyone can save and liberate themselves from toil forever. In fact, what makes it possible for a privileged minority of workers to do so under capitalism is the fact that the vast majority of workers cannot.
 

EatTheRich

President
How much more money will those making $15 @ hour have with Bernie's 49% income tax increase____________________________go

Actually, they will have Less income...……………….duh
$15 an hour, at 40 hours a week, at 50 work weeks a year, is $30,000, gross. Under Sanders’s tax plan your base income tax burden would be 12%, or $3,600, the same as it is now. But for his Medicare for All plan (no deductible, no co-pay, no bills for Doctor, hospital, ER, or ambulance, and a maximum on annual put-of-pocket costs for prescription drugs) you would also have to pay a 4% premium on earnings over $29,000. So that person who could be making $15 an hour if they raised the minimum wage would have an additional tax burden of $40 ($1,000*4%) for a total tax burden of $3640, compared with the $3600 they would owe if they made $15 an hour now.
 
I'm gonna give you this.

and you dont have to pay back that

and this'll be free..

n we'll take that from the evil richies

and well get them trillions and givem em to you...


oopsie... the Bernmeister has been at this for decades.

ching. here's Bernie.

How is "gimme gimme demographic" any different than deplorable?
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
If billions of people are working harder than either of us have worked a day in our lives, and living from hand to mouth in situations of squalor, as the social system you defend, capitalism, requires to make it work, then it is not true that anyone can save and liberate themselves from toil forever. In fact, what makes it possible for a privileged minority of workers to do so under capitalism is the fact that the vast majority of workers cannot.
There are many social systems... correct? Your comparators are off.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
And many worse. But the point is that the availability of good jobs isn’t based on social need, but on private pecuniary interest.
Negative
Trades are in a shortage, in 10 years their will be a shortage of 400,000 Welders and the pay is already High, millennial can' fix a toilet, wire a home for lights or build a home, there's is where the high paying jobs are.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
$15 an hour, at 40 hours a week, at 50 work weeks a year, is $30,000, gross. Under Sanders’s tax plan your base income tax burden would be 12%, or $3,600, the same as it is now. But for his Medicare for All plan (no deductible, no co-pay, no bills for Doctor, hospital, ER, or ambulance, and a maximum on annual put-of-pocket costs for prescription drugs) you would also have to pay a 4% premium on earnings over $29,000. So that person who could be making $15 an hour if they raised the minimum wage would have an additional tax burden of $40 ($1,000*4%) for a total tax burden of $3640, compared with the $3600 they would owe if they made $15 an hour now.
Well, do vote Bernie for more taxes and less pay:

Bernie Sanders wants minimum wage to be $15 per hour. Sounds freaking great right??
$15 X 40 hr week = $600
$600 X 52 weeks per yr = $31,200
Bernie Sanders wants free health care for all and was asked how he would pay for it. His answer was raise taxes to 52% on anybody making over $29,000 per year.
52% of $31,200 = $16,224 in tax
$31,200 - $16,224 = $14,976 is your pay
$14,976 ÷ 52 weeks = $288 per week
$288 ÷ 40 hr week = $7.20 per hour
So much for $15 an hour minimum wage.

Bernie voters failed at math and Bernie now has 3 Mansions to prove it.
 

EatTheRich

President
Well, do vote Bernie for more taxes and less pay:

Bernie Sanders wants minimum wage to be $15 per hour. Sounds freaking great right??
$15 X 40 hr week = $600
$600 X 52 weeks per yr = $31,200
Bernie Sanders wants free health care for all and was asked how he would pay for it. His answer was raise taxes to 52% on anybody making over $29,000 per year.
52% of $31,200 = $16,224 in tax
$31,200 - $16,224 = $14,976 is your pay
$14,976 ÷ 52 weeks = $288 per week
$288 ÷ 40 hr week = $7.20 per hour
So much for $15 an hour minimum wage.

Bernie voters failed at math and Bernie now has 3 Mansions to prove it.
No, your source misrepresented his tax plan. The rate under his plan is 52% only on income over $10 million per year.
 
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