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#We Believe Survivors.....

middleview

President
Supporting Member
whatever, I'm just saying that his posting was consistent, and your reading of this post was not what it meant.

carry on
You read a lot more into it than was there. She said by the Kavanaugh standard the woman must be believed.

Then she concluded "Biden must step down". Something she claimed she never said.

Nobody suggested Trump step down from the republican primary in 2016, even though there were 25 women who came forward to accuse him.

By that standard, Biden should not withdraw.
 

Days

Commentator
You read a lot more into it than was there. She said by the Kavanaugh standard the woman must be believed.

Then she concluded "Biden must step down". Something she claimed she never said.

Nobody suggested Trump step down from the republican primary in 2016, even though there were 25 women who came forward to accuse him.

By that standard, Biden should not withdraw.
It is two different wavelengths. You are arguing the politics in the message, he's just comparing the ideologies; he's not saying Biden should step down, he's saying that if the Dems applied the same moral arguments that they applied to Kavanaugh, then Biden should be held in the same contempt that they held for Kavanaugh.

You get so deep into the arguments... sometimes, can't see the forest for the trees.

How's Pittsburgh? I miss the place.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
It is two different wavelengths. You are arguing the politics in the message, he's just comparing the ideologies; he's not saying Biden should step down, he's saying that if the Dems applied the same moral arguments that they applied to Kavanaugh, then Biden should be held in the same contempt that they held for Kavanaugh.

You get so deep into the arguments... sometimes, can't see the forest for the trees.

How's Pittsburgh? I miss the place.
The text of the post disagrees with you. She claimed she'd never said Biden should step down...and her post said exactly that.

So while people here say democrats are being hypocritical, the truth is that nobody called for Trump to withdraw from the primary. By that standard, why would anyone call for Biden to withdraw?

I'm in Denver. Haven't been back to Pittsburgh since last June.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Right..."According to fascist lefties "

You're welcome :)
I took your words literally....
She's a sexual assault victim. According to fascist lefties, we HAVE to believe her.

<and in your opinion> Biden should step down.


Let me know if you find someone saying

They are sexual assault victims. We HAVE to believe them.

Trump should step down
 

Colorforms

Senator
I took your words literally....
She's a sexual assault victim. According to fascist lefties, we HAVE to believe her.

<and in your opinion> Biden should step down.


Let me know if you find someone saying

They are sexual assault victims. We HAVE to believe them.

Trump should step down
Ah...that creative interpretation stuff you do so well but hate so much in others. :)
 

Mr. Friscus

Governor
By the kavanaugh standard, Joe should be front page news as a rapist.

I don’t think he should be, but that’s the leftist standard
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
You did what you always do, and that you attacked me for.

Again, this is why you're considered the most dishonest poster in PJ. Good job keeping up your rep. :)
Yep...when you are losing you claim I lied. Where did I attack you? Getting kind of whiny about me disagreeing with you, aren't you?

You guys lose debates when confronted with facts, or in this case, your own words...you claim to speak for others and say I'm considered the most dishonest poster on PJ. Did you take a poll? Would anyone who agrees with you actually be able to find a dishonest post of mine? Keep in mind, to call me a liar you should be able to prove it...something you've never done.
 

Colorforms

Senator
Yep...when you are losing you claim I lied. Where did I attack you? Getting kind of whiny about me disagreeing with you, aren't you?

You guys lose debates when confronted with facts, or in this case, your own words...you claim to speak for others and say I'm considered the most dishonest poster on PJ. Did you take a poll? Would anyone who agrees with you actually be able to find a dishonest post of mine? Keep in mind, to call me a liar you should be able to prove it...something you've never done.
Poor MV, just can't handle getting called on your BS. You were attacking me for years after I did it once and admitted to it. You even had it in your signature for a while.

The fact that you can't even own up to your own BS makes you not worth the time of day.

So dishonest. Bye MV.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Poor MV, just can't handle getting called on your BS. You were attacking me for years after I did it once and admitted to it. You even had it in your signature for a while.

The fact that you can't even own up to your own BS makes you not worth the time of day.

So dishonest. Bye MV.
You got caught twisting what others wrote into something unrecognizable. You admitted it and don't like that I rubbed your nose in your own words.

I took your words literally. In any case, the fact is that nobody called for Trump to withdraw from the 2016 primaries. By that standard it makes no sense to call for Biden to withdraw. Clearly you guys are scared. Biden is going to win.
 

Days

Commentator
The text of the post disagrees with you. She claimed she'd never said Biden should step down...and her post said exactly that.

So while people here say democrats are being hypocritical, the truth is that nobody called for Trump to withdraw from the primary. By that standard, why would anyone call for Biden to withdraw?

I'm in Denver. Haven't been back to Pittsburgh since last June.
My stepson just moved to Denver... he's turning 40 yrs old now, but as a child he attended Minadeo Elementary where Shady meets Lilac, just south of Squirrel Hill tunnel. Same thing happened to him that happened to us; moving to Chicago from Pittsburgh, you miss those foothills. So, now he is in Denver, but his little bro is not going to graduate from UIC until December. We will miss him. No more trips from UIC to stay at his bro's apartment for my youngest son, but heck, UIC is totally remote now, so who knows, maybe no more commutes period... everyone is predicting a resurge of the virus come Fall, so maybe this is it, the rest of my kid's college life is happening on his laptop in the other room.

Okay, so this goofy argument over Biden stepping down is not at all the point; the point was that Kavanaugh was condemned on a completely uncorroborated fish story while Biden has been caught on tape laying his hands on women and children, caressing, and kissing, the guy is a sexual predator, and yet, no condemnation for it from the same people who put on that dog and pony show in the Senate. The point being; politics is pure hypocrisy in action.... and yeah, I agree, it goes both ways.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
My stepson just moved to Denver... he's turning 40 yrs old now, but as a child he attended Minadeo Elementary where Shady meets Lilac, just south of Squirrel Hill tunnel. Same thing happened to him that happened to us; moving to Chicago from Pittsburgh, you miss those foothills. So, now he is in Denver, but his little bro is not going to graduate from UIC until December. We will miss him. No more trips from UIC to stay at his bro's apartment for my youngest son, but heck, UIC is totally remote now, so who knows, maybe no more commutes period... everyone is predicting a resurge of the virus come Fall, so maybe this is it, the rest of my kid's college life is happening on his laptop in the other room.

Okay, so this goofy argument over Biden stepping down is not at all the point; the point was that Kavanaugh was condemned on a completely uncorroborated fish story while Biden has been caught on tape laying his hands on women and children, caressing, and kissing, the guy is a sexual predator, and yet, no condemnation for it from the same people who put on that dog and pony show in the Senate. The point being; politics is pure hypocrisy in action.... and yeah, I agree, it goes both ways.
I've been here for over 30 years and like a lot better than Pittsburgh....

The deal is this...Kavenaugh was going through a hearing to confirm his appointment to a lifetime job on the supreme court. An Accusation was made under oath. Are you saying it should have been ignored by the committee?

So accusations were made against Trump. There was no investigation. No call for him to drop out.

You are comparing a candidate for president with a nominee for the supreme court. Not the same thing...
 

Days

Commentator
I've been here for over 30 years and like a lot better than Pittsburgh....

The deal is this...Kavenaugh was going through a hearing to confirm his appointment to a lifetime job on the supreme court. An Accusation was made under oath. Are you saying it should have been ignored by the committee?

So accusations were made against Trump. There was no investigation. No call for him to drop out.

You are comparing a candidate for president with a nominee for the supreme court. Not the same thing...
You do not make the correct comparison...

the comparison was between whether we need to believe the survivors. It isn't incidental whether the post sought is POTUS or Supreme Court justice, the point is not whether someone should step down, the point is that the argument was made that we need to believe the survivors... so, why are the same people who made that argument, ignoring the survivors now?

I used to ski in my childhood, I saw Colorado in the winter time from the mountain tops... pretty country. Then I saw Colorado Springs in the Springtime when my oldest bro graduated from the Air Force Academy... mountains are awesome backdrop to the Academy. I'd love to move to Denver if I wasn't so old and feeble...
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
You do not make the correct comparison...

the comparison was between whether we need to believe the survivors. It isn't incidental whether the post sought is POTUS or Supreme Court justice, the point is not whether someone should step down, the point is that the argument was made that we need to believe the survivors... so, why are the same people who made that argument, ignoring the survivors now?

I used to ski in my childhood, I saw Colorado in the winter time from the mountain tops... pretty country. Then I saw Colorado Springs in the Springtime when my oldest bro graduated from the Air Force Academy... mountains are awesome backdrop to the Academy. I'd love to move to Denver if I wasn't so old and feeble...
Believe her if you like. You're choice. Same as when Trump ran in 2016. I find her story pretty flimsy. Who was the supervisor who asked her to find Biden? Where did this take place? In some hallway in the capitol building? Are you kidding? Why did she complain about Biden last year as having touched her neck and now, suddenly, it has become rape? The info from her has been odd....a pro Putin op-ed, support for Warren and Benie..and now a scandal.
 

Days

Commentator
Believe her if you like. You're choice. Same as when Trump ran in 2016. I find her story pretty flimsy. Who was the supervisor who asked her to find Biden? Where did this take place? In some hallway in the capitol building? Are you kidding? Why did she complain about Biden last year as having touched her neck and now, suddenly, it has become rape? The info from her has been odd....a pro Putin op-ed, support for Warren and Benie..and now a scandal.
I couldn't agree more, and the Bimbo that lied to the Senate was even worse. Can you see why we need to question the "survivors"?
 
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