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EatTheRich

President
Either a revolution or a revolutionary situation followed by counterrevolution or (conceivably but hard to see how) stabilization.

What happens when the bills come due and you still don’t have a job? March of the Empty Pots maybe?
 

BobbyT

Governor
~ the government is telling you that you that they have ordered a lock down. You are under house arrest, whether you realize it or not. With every incarceration there are liberties, but those liberties can be withdrawn at a moment's notice. In Illinois the Governor is telling everyone to wear a mask. Restriction of movement, control over activity... that's a police state.

~ enjoy the revolution that is coming, Bobby. With any luck, the revolution will succeed, otherwise, we will live the rest of our lives under the New World Order's thumb. If I was a betting man, I would have my money on the latter.
Calm down. There already exist restrictions we live under permanently, for better or worse, because we live in a society. For example, try walking naked down the street - naked being how you were born, how God created you, your natural state; or growing a fine weed in your front yard and giving it away to the neighborhood children (with their parent's permission, of course); or lighting up a cigar in your local bar/restaurant. These lockdown restrictions are temporary.

What does "success" of the revolution you imagine is coming look like? What are your criteria for success? Are they a coordinated and codified set of criteria or do other people have a different end goal for your revolution? If you do have a coordinated and codified set of criteria, who signed off on them? Is there a single leader? I notice that so far you've omitted any information about this revolution you claim to know about. I suspect that dearth of information will continue, as this is nothing but a wet dream of some armchair George Washington wannabes.
 

BobbyT

Governor
Either a revolution or a revolutionary situation followed by counterrevolution or (conceivably but hard to see how) stabilization.

What happens when the bills come due and you still don’t have a job? March of the Empty Pots maybe?
Depends upon what, if anything, the Government does. And, of course, those of us who are helping out. But again, what does happen? Riots. Not revolution. The thing is, what will the rioters go after? Stores that don't have food? Nope. Each other, us. Then, because the Federal government sat on its ability to print money (or printed it and handed it out to corporations and themselves), we will have a police state.
 

EatTheRich

President
Depends upon what, if anything, the Government does. And, of course, those of us who are helping out. But again, what does happen? Riots. Not revolution. The thing is, what will the rioters go after? Stores that don't have food? Nope. Each other, us. Then, because the Federal government sat on its ability to print money (or printed it and handed it out to corporations and themselves), we will have a police state.
Will they go after political power, the kind essential workers now have extraordinary leverage over? That is the way to avoid a police state or at the very least to put a more leftist stamp on the first one.
 
Personally I tend to believe it will be a civil war rather than a revolution. People still are looking at everything as one side or the other. If it was a revolution everybody would have to be on the same side.
I am sorry but I think that the evil psychopaths who have instigated this collapse, for their own gain, know us better then we know ourselves - they have divided us into so many segments that they know we cannot form a united front against them.
 

Boltlady

Mayor
I am sorry but I think that the evil psychopaths who have instigated this collapse, for their own gain, know us better then we know ourselves - they have divided us into so many segments that they know we cannot form a united front against them.
There is that. It will be more like a lot of little civil wars. ;)
 

voyager

4Q2247365
As long as there is food in the stores and money from the government there will be no civil war or revolution. With the internet you can not even get large crowds in the streets to protest anything.
 

Days

Commentator
Calm down. There already exist restrictions we live under permanently, for better or worse, because we live in a society. For example, try walking naked down the street - naked being how you were born, how God created you, your natural state; or growing a fine weed in your front yard and giving it away to the neighborhood children (with their parent's permission, of course); or lighting up a cigar in your local bar/restaurant. These lockdown restrictions are temporary.

What does "success" of the revolution you imagine is coming look like? What are your criteria for success? Are they a coordinated and codified set of criteria or do other people have a different end goal for your revolution? If you do have a coordinated and codified set of criteria, who signed off on them? Is there a single leader? I notice that so far you've omitted any information about this revolution you claim to know about. I suspect that dearth of information will continue, as this is nothing but a wet dream of some armchair George Washington wannabes.
There is a huge difference between a quarantine and a lock down. A quarantine is when you have contacted a disease; a quarantine is administered because you are infected. A quarantine is a medical practice. A lock down is not a medical practice, it is a prison practice. A lock down is when there is a riot and a lock down is administered to regain control over the prison. You don't have to have participated in the riot to get locked down. But you did have to commit a crime to be prisoned in the first place; a lock down is a form of incarceration, and it is a severe form of it.

Just calm down, eh? No big deal, the entire nation was just incarcerated in our homes and all the freedoms of our Constitution were just taken away. For a virus. Doodah, they can quarantine you if you contacted the virus, they can not lock down the nation for any reason whatsoever... King George never pulled anything this insane on the colonies. Thomas Jefferson said it is our duty to revolt when the government turns totalitarian. Every where on the web you see the slogan, "give me liberty or give me death" the modern version is "live free or die".

You are living in La-La land, you have no need for freedom. But you are the exception. Even urban yuppies love their freedom. This land is all about freedom. Land of the Free, home of the brave. There will be a revolution. No maybe in the equation. I'm an old man and I have no gun, so I'm not going to be fighting it, but you can bet your bottom dollar it will happen.
 

Bernard_Fokke

Captain Fokke
Supporting Member
Bobby...you think todays millennials could really endure what kids endured back in 1930...…60's……..hell, school zones are traffic jams even here in my woods with parents or grandparents taking lil Johnny and Carol to school daily...…….instead of riding the school buses...…………….this is not a "whine" it's the damn reality of where America is...………..spoiled ass kids...……..hell, they fighting in Congress now that 17 year old's not getting a $500 check!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My first car was a 1961 Ford that I picked up hay, primed tobacco, picked blackberries for $1 a gallon or what ever to get $300...……..high school kids now driving BMW/s...…………..don't even try blowing smoke up my ass.
If they get out of hand the government will shut down the internet and all the cell phones, the snowflakes will suddenly go "Stupid" since they won't have Alexa or Siri to think for them, trust me they for the most part have few if any real world survival skills.
 

BobbyT

Governor
Will they go after political power, the kind essential workers now have extraordinary leverage over? That is the way to avoid a police state or at the very least to put a more leftist stamp on the first one.
Who are you asking that about? Who is 'they'?
 

BobbyT

Governor
they=rebels.
Ah. Thanks. I hope they do. Going after political power is exactly what they should do and if they message well, going hard, for example, on economic disparity and its impact on health outcomes, with a hard push on universal health care, they will find a lot of new supporters in the wake of this debacle. That's not a revolution though, except in the sense that the TEA party was a revolution. That's how it should work in a Democratic Republic and while I'm financially ok and still working for the foreseeable future, I can see the difference between my situation and that of others and I will support their efforts.
 

Days

Commentator
viruses are in our bodies, you don't really contact a virus, you produce a virus, your cells are always kicking out poisons, it is a matter of numbers, if your system is under stress and is losing the battle against poisons, you become "sick", that's why there is no cure for viruses or the common cold, because it isn't an agent that attacks us from the outside, it is our own bodies excreting poisons in bigger numbers... all these viruses are bi-products of human cells, if our systems were not under stress to begin with, nothing would be contagious. Pandemics like SARS are really the result of global systems like 5G going into place, the additional stress on our immune systems is what spawns the virus.

vaccines do not cure anything. All vaccines do is inject the very poison we are up against into our system, forcing the immune system to fight it off. It is our auto-immune system that performs the cure.

I'm not a doctor so I try not to pipe off too much. But ask me, all these pandemics are not being spread in the first place except that our civilization is under tremendous stress and our systems already taxed with radiation and micro waves and so many chemicals and poisons. I know that high voltage lines set up a field of radiation that will give you cancer, but no one ever talks about that:

So, would if the Rockefeller Foundation really exists? And would if they really are working for a New World Order? And would if they laid out everything that is happening today in a book 10 years ago? Would that make you wonder what is the deal with this "lock down"? Do you know what a lock down is? A lock down is a prison term, when a prison goes into lock down, all the inmates must return to their cells...

Are Viruses Alive? (Link)
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Created by George Rice, Montana State University

"Viruses straddle the definition of life. They lie somewhere between supra molecular complexes and very simple biological entities. Viruses contain some of the structures and exhibit some of the activities that are common to organic life, but they are missing many of the others. In general, viruses are entirely composed of a single strand of genetic information encased within a protein capsule. Viruses lack most of the internal structure and machinery which characterize 'life', including the biosynthetic machinery that is necessary for reproduction. In order for a virus to replicate it must infect a suitable host cell".
From 'The Bacteriophage T4 Virus'


artist conceptin of T4 virus as it penetrates cell membrane of E. coli
Artists conception of the T4 virus from Michael G. Rossmann's lab

Background:

When researchers first discovered agents that behaved like bacteria but were much smaller and caused diseases such as rabies and foot-and-mouth disease, it became the general view that viruses were biologically "alive." However this perception changed in 1935 when the tobacco mosaic virus was crystallized and it was shown that the particles lacked the mechanisms necessary for metabolic function. Once it was established that viruses consist merely of DNA or RNA surrounded by a protein shell, it became the scientific view that they are more complex biochemical mechanisms than living organisms.

TEM of a group of typical head and tail bacteriophage
"Viruses exist in two distinct states. When not in contact with a host cell, the virus remains entirely dormant. During this time there are no internal biological activities occurring within the virus, and in essence the virus is no more than a static organic particle. In this simple, clearly non-living state viruses are referred to as 'virions'. Virions can remain in this dormant state for extended periods of time, waiting patiently to come into contact with the appropriate host. When the virion comes into contact with the appropriate host, it becomes active and is then referred to as a virus. It now displays properties typified by living organisms, such as reacting to its environment and directing its efforts toward self-replication".

So, here's my question: what creates the virus in the first place? It isn't born, like bacteria or cells are born from chromosones, because they are living, they reproduce, they create another cell inside themselves and then the cells split, but a virus is just a proteins, so where did the protein come from? Remember the part of the cell that manufactures proteins? Mitochondria, and that's what the virus invades and supposedly "takes over' and uses to reproduce itself.

Okay, stop, because we have to remember who said what and when. Early on, when we still thought a virus is a living thing, we understood that the virus was invading and taking over cells and then using their mitochondria to reproduce themselves, and then the scifi flicks went crazy with that idea. But then later, we learn more and now we know a virus is not alive, it isn't doing jack sh*t in the cell, it has no ability to perform anything, it is merely a protein and everything from how it was produced to begin with to its rapid reproduction is all the function of the living cell.

So, when the contagion is spreading, realize that it isn't in and of itself, alive, it isn't a parasite praying upon a host... what is happening is the protein is seized upon by our cells and our cells are reproducing it. This is why a virus only attacks the weak... in the first place it isn't attacking, it isn't alive, what is going on is simple; a human being becomes sick because the auto-immune system is weak. Our cells reproduce the virus, that's how we become sick. So when they say someone is "infected" ... all that really means is the person is reproducing the virus. How? ... through the mitochondria. The virus never becomes "active" it is the mitochondria that becomes active.

So COVID19 testing is looking for a virus in our system, which is to say, we are looking for one of a gazillion proteins that our cells manufacture. Whether or not they even detect that virus, is meaningless, what matters is whether the protein is being mass reproduced by our cells; because that's what an infection is.

The point is this: the CDC is hyping this virus. Detection is meaningless, all that matters is who is sick with it, who is infected. And those numbers are ridiculously small in America. Attributing everyone that tested positive as a COVID19 death is a lie... those people might not have even been infected, and amongst the few that were (only 15% by their account and that is probably way high, because they are hyping the numbers) how many of those actually died from the disease as opposed to pre-existing conditions? Would you believe one out of every 2 million Americans are actually dying from this virus? Influenza flu is doing more damage.

Now ask yourself; how small is a single protein? If you answered "much smaller than a single cell" you were correct. A virus is not much more than a string of atoms sealed in a protein. Still think those masks are going to stop it? But our Governor has told us all to wear masks, our president has told us to wear scarfs or bandanas... as if it does anything at all to stop a virus. How about social distancing? Walmart is now limiting access to their stores to 20% capacity and making their aisles one-way. so, voila, we never get close enough to each other to contact the virus... or do we? How long can the virus survive on a airborne droplet again? Oh wait, a virus isn't alive to begin with, it is a single strand of RNA wrapped in a protein, contact is automatic if you walk down the aisle behind someone who has it, but contagion means nothing to begin with, you won't become sick if you are not prone to become sick in the first place. And if you do become infected, this another 3-day bug, if that kills you, you was about to die anyway.
 

Days

Commentator
Ah. Thanks. I hope they do. Going after political power is exactly what they should do and if they message well, going hard, for example, on economic disparity and its impact on health outcomes, with a hard push on universal health care, they will find a lot of new supporters in the wake of this debacle. That's not a revolution though, except in the sense that the TEA party was a revolution. That's how it should work in a Democratic Republic and while I'm financially ok and still working for the foreseeable future, I can see the difference between my situation and that of others and I will support their efforts.
yeah, think more along the lines of the Bolshevik revolution, Bobby. and they had a great message... land reform... same message Julius Caesar had, by the way.
 

BobbyT

Governor
yeah, think more along the lines of the Bolshevik revolution, Bobby. and they had a great message... land reform... same message Julius Caesar had, by the way.
What's your revolution's end goal Days? This is the third or fourth time I've asked. I'm beginning to believe you don't know about any revolution and therefore have no clue about it's goals.
 

Days

Commentator
What's your revolution's end goal Days? This is the third or fourth time I've asked. I'm beginning to believe you don't know about any revolution and therefore have no clue about it's goals.
I can't help you with your politics. I don't have any revolutions in my back pocket to offer you. You keep masturbating over what a revolution would look like. History has a bazillion examples. Are you really this clue-less? I think not.
 

BobbyT

Governor
I can't help you with your politics. I don't have any revolutions in my back pocket to offer you. You keep masturbating over what a revolution would look like. History has a bazillion examples. Are you really this clue-less? I think not.
You're the one who claimed that people on the internet were talking about revolution. The one link you provided wasn't a guy fixing to start a revolution. So where is this revolution you've been talking about? What is its goal? Who's leading it? Or are you just reading a bunch of Internet warriors who wouldn't get off their couch if their house were on fire? I suspect that is it since you've offered absolutely no evidence of any revolution.

Yes I've read history about revolutions. We don't have the conditions for one here.
 

Days

Commentator
You're the one who claimed that people on the internet were talking about revolution. The one link you provided wasn't a guy fixing to start a revolution. So where is this revolution you've been talking about? What is its goal? Who's leading it? Or are you just reading a bunch of Internet warriors who wouldn't get off their couch if their house were on fire? I suspect that is it since you've offered absolutely no evidence of any revolution.

Yes I've read history about revolutions. We don't have the conditions for one here.
You are purposely playing games. I didn't say bloggers were trying to start a revolution, I said.....

So some expect a Great Depression 2

but most blogs are plainly predicting a revolution.
.... and then you said show me those bloggers and I gave you one and you continue to play games with that. Falling all over yourself, "how could this be? how could there be a revolution? America doesn't have any revolutions."

America was born from a revolution. And America was always on guard against tyrannical central powers...

“Experience hath shown, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.”
~ Thomas Jefferson.
 

BobbyT

Governor
You are purposely playing games. I didn't say bloggers were trying to start a revolution, I said.....


.... and then you said show me those bloggers and I gave you one and you continue to play games with that. Falling all over yourself, "how could this be? how could there be a revolution? America doesn't have any revolutions."

America was born from a revolution. And America was always on guard against tyrannical central powers...

“Experience hath shown, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.”
~ Thomas Jefferson.
No, you said:

"You would be surprised to discover what has been brewing out west for quite some time. There are organized revolutions happening in this nation, but they are not that big yet. This social distancing should feed the fire. Wait 4-5 months, if we are still living under Marshall law, or whatever this is, you will see revolution in this country, and it will be big and it will be organized."

What I was asking you about is what has been "brewing out west for quite some time"? What do you know about these "organized revolutions happening in this nation"? I've asked you multiple times to provide information on these revolutions you claim are organized and happening in this nation. And time and time again you have failed to do so. Is it because you don't actually have any information and you were just trying to make yourself sound "in the know" about something? Yes. I think that's it.

BTW, I never said America doesn't have any revolutions. I said we don't have the conditions for one here. And we don't. We have in the past, we may in the future. But we currently don't. Why do you feel the need to lie about what I wrote?
 
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