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A question for Trump supporters...

Dino

Russian Asset
Trump loves that dishonest gambit too - pretend that criticism of Trump’s lying and buffoonery is actually a criticism of those great citizens who are scrambling to address the consequences of Trump’s lying and buffoonery.

So deplorable.
Well if you were criticizing Trump just for his words well then you’d be correct.
But that’s not the criticism.
For that you must conflate Trump’s optimism as government neglect and inaction.
And THERE is the great dishonesty on your part.
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
I'm healthy, as is my family, so yes, I like the results. If your fellow death-cultists had been in charge (no travel bans, "mingling" in Chinatowns, open borders), we'd have millions of corpses to deal with right now.
Ah, the Republican take on everything - if you don’t have a particular problem, then there is no problem.

Classic.

;-)
 

Mr. Friscus

Governor
If Trump hadn't let Bolton dump the Pandemic response team we probably would have been better prepared.
How would that team have known that China and the WHO would be lying about how the virus cannot be transmitted through human to human contact?

Meanwhile, you're giving government an awful amount of credit in what they'd be able to do, based off of their track record.

You have a theory.. I'm not sure I agree with it, but to each their own.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
How would that team have known that China and the WHO would be lying about how the virus cannot be transmitted through human to human contact?

Meanwhile, you're giving government an awful amount of credit in what they'd be able to do, based off of their track record.

You have a theory.. I'm not sure I agree with it, but to each their own.
Do you know what that group did to gather and evaluate information from around the world on indications of a pandemic?
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
So you admit not being as juvenile and unrealistic as Trump’s criticism of Obama? Well at least we’ve established that your being unserious and unprincipled.
That’s a big step for you.
Yes, I admit I'm not as juvenile and unrealistic as Trump is.
 

EatTheRich

President
Not one leftist intellectually honest enough to acknowledge that the biggest differing factor in how South Korea and the USA "reacted to the virus threat" was the cooperation by citizens and not the (fairly similar) efforts by the governments.
Because it’s just false. The biggest difference was the government response.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
How about Swine Flu, don't think anyone died in America due to Ebola, did they? 17,000+ died from swine flu and almost 10,000 of covid-19 (supposedly) appears now if you stump your toe it's due to covid-19 and autopsies not complete.
The first case in the US was April 17, 2009. On April 22 the CDC activated the Emergency Ops Center. On April 26th Obama declared a public health emergency.

As of May 4, 2009, the CDC reported that it had deployed 25% of the supplies and medicines in the Strategic National Stockpile to the various states.

As of April 29, only the CDC could confirm U.S. swine flu cases. Besser stated during an April 30 press briefing that California and New York had diagnostic test kits, and that the kits would be sent to all states starting the following day. On May 6, the CDC announced that testing kits were now available for all states. It was expected this would generate an increase in the number of confirmed cases as more states began doing their own tests

The proportion of US deaths due to pneumonia and influenza climbed above the epidemic threshold in the 2007–2008 winter flu season but not in the 2008–2009 season. Although the 2009 H1N1 outbreak reached epidemic levels of infection early in 2009, it did not contribute to epidemic levels of pneumonia and influenza related deaths until October 2009

On October 24, President Obama declared the 2009 H1N1 swine flu a national emergency.[170] The declaration made it easier for U.S. medical facilities to handle a surge in flu patients by allowing the waiver of some requirements of Medicare, Medicaid and other federal health insurance programs as needed.
 
The first case in the US was April 17, 2009. On April 22 the CDC activated the Emergency Ops Center. On April 26th Obama declared a public health emergency.

As of May 4, 2009, the CDC reported that it had deployed 25% of the supplies and medicines in the Strategic National Stockpile to the various states.

As of April 29, only the CDC could confirm U.S. swine flu cases. Besser stated during an April 30 press briefing that California and New York had diagnostic test kits, and that the kits would be sent to all states starting the following day. On May 6, the CDC announced that testing kits were now available for all states. It was expected this would generate an increase in the number of confirmed cases as more states began doing their own tests

The proportion of US deaths due to pneumonia and influenza climbed above the epidemic threshold in the 2007–2008 winter flu season but not in the 2008–2009 season. Although the 2009 H1N1 outbreak reached epidemic levels of infection early in 2009, it did not contribute to epidemic levels of pneumonia and influenza related deaths until October 2009

On October 24, President Obama declared the 2009 H1N1 swine flu a national emergency.[170] The declaration made it easier for U.S. medical facilities to handle a surge in flu patients by allowing the waiver of some requirements of Medicare, Medicaid and other federal health insurance programs as needed.
The bastard waited SIX months to declare an emergency. No wonder so many people died.
 

Mr. Friscus

Governor
The first case in the US was April 17, 2009. On April 22 the CDC activated the Emergency Ops Center. On April 26th Obama declared a public health emergency.

As of May 4, 2009, the CDC reported that it had deployed 25% of the supplies and medicines in the Strategic National Stockpile to the various states.

As of April 29, only the CDC could confirm U.S. swine flu cases. Besser stated during an April 30 press briefing that California and New York had diagnostic test kits, and that the kits would be sent to all states starting the following day. On May 6, the CDC announced that testing kits were now available for all states. It was expected this would generate an increase in the number of confirmed cases as more states began doing their own tests

The proportion of US deaths due to pneumonia and influenza climbed above the epidemic threshold in the 2007–2008 winter flu season but not in the 2008–2009 season. Although the 2009 H1N1 outbreak reached epidemic levels of infection early in 2009, it did not contribute to epidemic levels of pneumonia and influenza related deaths until October 2009

On October 24, President Obama declared the 2009 H1N1 swine flu a national emergency.[170] The declaration made it easier for U.S. medical facilities to handle a surge in flu patients by allowing the waiver of some requirements of Medicare, Medicaid and other federal health insurance programs as needed.
Does Donald Trump run the CDC?

If not, then that was all for naught.

Hint: he doesn’t
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Does Donald Trump run the CDC?

If not, then that was all for naught.

Hint: he doesn’t
Robert R. Redfield was appointed by Trump to run the CDC in March of 2018.

Trump doesn't run the CDC if anything goes wrong. If everything goes right he does.
 

Drumcollie

* See DC's list of Kook posters*
Do you wish that Trump jumped all over the coronavirus invasion right at the outset, as did countries like South Korea, or do you think he did the right thing by denying its seriousness for weeks and claiming it was under control?
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On 17 February the Swedish Ministry of Foreign Affairs advised against all trips to the Hubei province in China, as well as non-essential travel to the rest of China apart from Hong Kong and Macao.

The White House Coronavirus Task Force was established on January 29.[7] Two days later, the Trump administration declared a public health emergency and announced restrictions on travelers arriving from China.


Why did Sweden wait 2.5 weeks later than Trump to respond?
 

Bugsy McGurk

President
Well if you were criticizing Trump just for his words well then you’d be correct.
But that’s not the criticism.
For that you must conflate Trump’s optimism as government neglect and inaction.
And THERE is the great dishonesty on your part.
Huh? I don’t criticize Trump “just for his words.” Even worse were his actions or, more specifically, his failure to take actions.
 
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