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California first covid Case

now_what

Governor
Supporting Member
in this instance....the one case was in cali. why didnt the governor of cali summarily shut down the state, it's economy, put everyone on lock down on that first day when the first patient was identified??
That's what I want to know, as well as the rest of the country, even to this day! Hopefully somebody can give us the answer!!
 

Spamature

President
So if I were to, say, search this forum for you whining about ANY federal response measures ordered by the president, I wouldn't find anything, right? Because there haven't been any? Shall I take a look?
In regards to the topic of this thread ?

If you can find an actual plan to organize a response to mitigate the spread of this virus that went down to the state level, I would like to see it.

So go ahead and look and tell me what you find.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
In regards to the topic of this thread ?

If you can find an actual plan to organize a response to mitigate the spread of this virus that went down to the state level, I would like to see it.

So go ahead and look and tell me what you find.
so the states are non functional without the fed?
 
In regards to the topic of this thread ?

If you can find an actual plan to organize a response to mitigate the spread of this virus that went down to the state level, I would like to see it.

So go ahead and look and tell me what you find.
Sad dodge attempt.

You said "State, county, and city officials, put their own plans in place in the absence of any kind of federal effort in regards to planing and organizing a response from the federal govt." These are your words.

Now, I'm going to search your posting history for your comments, if any, about "any kind of federal effort in regards to planing and organizing a response from the federal govt.", which you claim is in total absence.

Let's see just how big of a liar you really are.

Back in a bit with quotes!
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
The media is just as bad. Don't forget, "Trump complicit in hurricane".

(I'll bet even now, that weasel is dialing up tornadoes, earthquakes, wildfires, and deadly pathogens).
well..theres an issue here...

i thought the line was... trump is an idiot...dont listen to him... everybody else is smarter..

here we have a post questioning the actions of the cali governor... and pretty much all we got is....cali gov dumb as a stump..totally dependent on trump..yup yup....

how odd is that..
 

NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
you dont know who the president of the united states is??? holy cow.

so, the governor of california just sat about doing nothing on his own? jeesus...all those citizens and you're saying he couldnt think for his states citizens on his own and held off as some sort of gotcha to the fed?
Unfortunately, I do know who the president is. The guy you defend for the damnedest things.
 

Spamature

President
yes, the question was why did they wait so long.. in this case 6 weeks to make a decision?

(the whole premise here being that the president dilly dallied...is an idiot and all that..not heeding warnings etc... yet...here we are... you asserting they made their own decisions... yet....sat about for weeks doing nothing..


i mean jeesus H
There are several reason not to do so.


State leaders were not privy to the research and intelligence out of China about how the virus spreads . Since the federal and congressional , meetings and briefings concerning virus were still classified by the administration at that time. In addition to the POTUS telling the public it was all under control and that there was no threat.


The public would not have taken it seriously with only a single case in the entire country, and therefore it would have been harder to maintain it in the absences of a larger threat.


It would have meant that the state would have been shut down for going on 3 months by now and it would have been done with no idea at all that there would be any kind of help coming from this administration in regards to the financial hardship it puts upon people and business.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
Unfortunately, I do know who the president is. The guy you defend for the damnedest things.
no. untrue.

Anyway.... can you handle this post or not?


Why didnt the gov of Cali lock the state down on the day the first covid patient was identified/ why did he wait 6 weeks?

surely you have something better than trumpie, trumpie, trumpie...?
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
There are several reason not to do so.


State leaders were not privy to the research and intelligence out of China about how the virus spreads . Since the Federal and congressional meetings and briefings concerning virus were still classified by the administration at that time.


The public would not have taken it seriously with only a single case in the entire country, and therefore it would have been harder to maintain it in the absences of a larger threat.


It would have meant that the state would have been shut down for going on 3 months by now and it would have been done with no idea at all that there would be any kind of help coming from this administration in regards to the financial hardship it puts upon people and business.

ah, progress...


so, i take from your reply...


1. the scale... are you saying the number of cases is a consideration?

2. the effect... are you saying the impact to the economy, in that it would produce undue economic hardship, is a consideration along with the scale?
 

NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
oh im not trump voter..you must have me confused with the stupidity you spew..

this isnt a post about blame, it's a post about why cali sat about for 6 weeks, given that all the undits here have been outlining the delay to act and it's costs for well..weeks...

wtf? the gov of cali gets a pass.??


imagine, if at a diagnosed case load of 1...cali locked down...

where's your opinon on that? you have no qualm saying the fed is a bunch of idiots.. yet, the states, in this case cali...could do so at the moment... stopping the influx of cases....

well? why didnt the gov of cali take action?
I am thinking that the governor of California should have done better.
but, unlike you I don’t defend a guy who had rallies in February and golfed for five times during the crisis and even had a big wingding party at Mar a Zlsfo which infected people were there during this coronavirus time.

Why was he doing all those things when he should’ve been trying to protect the country. Like ordering more PPE that he claims were so understaffed when he took office. He had over three years to restock the shelves that he claimed were empty and that also has been debunked by people who were actually there. If you want to continue defending that lying sack of shit, that’s up to you, but don’t pretend to any of us hear that you’re not a Trump defender. We know better. Better question is, why are you defending the POS we all have to vote in or out of all of us and yet are blaming governors who aren’t even in the states where you live?
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
I am thinking that the governor of California should have done better.
but, unlike you I don’t defend a guy who had rallies in February and golfed for five times during the crisis and even had a big wingding party at Mar a Zlsfo which infected people were there during this coronavirus time.

Why was he doing all those things when he should’ve been trying to protect the country. Like ordering more PPE that he claims were so understaffed when he took office. He had over three years to restock the shelves that he claimed were empty and that also has been debunked by people who were actually there. If you want to continue defending that lying sack of shit, that’s up to you, but don’t pretend to any of us hear that you’re not a Trump defender. We know better. Better question is, why are you defending the POS we all have to vote in or out of all of us and yet are blaming governors who aren’t even in the states where you live?


and again.. .youre dissembling.. but i gleen a point from your stupidity none the less..

so, you feel the governor of california should have shut the state down on day one?

further...why didnt the governor of california take measures to stockpile both preceding that first case and immediately after?

by the logic you apply...he should have ordered tens of thousand of ventilators, and millions upon millions of ppe. why not???

im not defending the POS trump, what is happening is that you are desperately trying to turn it into another all trumpie fault routine... because you have shit.

address the topic...
 

Spamature

President
Sad dodge attempt.

You said "State, county, and city officials, put their own plans in place in the absence of any kind of federal effort in regards to planing and organizing a response from the federal govt." These are your words.

Now, I'm going to search your posting history for your comments, if any, about "any kind of federal effort in regards to planing and organizing a response from the federal govt.", which you claim is in total absence.

Let's see just how big of a liar you really are.

Back in a bit with quotes!
Go ahead. I think I have put forth more ideas than you teabagger messiah has.

I will be the first to you that is DEPLORABLE !
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
I am thinking that the governor of California should have done better.
but, unlike you I don’t defend a guy who had rallies in February and golfed for five times during the crisis and even had a big wingding party at Mar a Zlsfo which infected people were there during this coronavirus time.

Why was he doing all those things when he should’ve been trying to protect the country. Like ordering more PPE that he claims were so understaffed when he took office. He had over three years to restock the shelves that he claimed were empty and that also has been debunked by people who were actually there. If you want to continue defending that lying sack of shit, that’s up to you, but don’t pretend to any of us hear that you’re not a Trump defender. We know better. Better question is, why are you defending the POS we all have to vote in or out of all of us and yet are blaming governors who aren’t even in the states where you live?


you're totally off your rocker with that last part.... there's a whole heap of you lamenting inaction..day in day out day in day out... now all of a sudden everybody gets a pass?

you cant have it both ways. or are you assertign everybody is dumb as a post and is beholden, totally to trumps actions?????
 

NinaS

Senator
Supporting Member
no. untrue.

Anyway.... can you handle this post or not?


Why didnt the gov of Cali lock the state down on the day the first covid patient was identified/ why did he wait 6 weeks?

surely you have something better than trumpie, trumpie, trumpie...?
No it is not untrue there are post after post after post here that prove you defend Trump at every instance that he is ridiculed. On the other hand I never did say the California governor was doing the right thing. I am saying that the governors aren’t the ones who were elected to run this country and that Trump is passing the buck because he isn’t guiding them worth a damn. He isn’t doing diddly squat to help America. He is knee-deep in corruption and trying to help his own businesses while this pandemic is going on. He was also sending tons of coronavirus PPE to China when he should have known that we would need it here. But then of course he is always there to help the countries of his dictator Pals. During this time of crisis he gets on the phone and talks to Putin and the crown prince of Saudi Arabia instead of doing his job here. All he thinks about is money money money and getting the country back up to snuff so he can be sure his own failing businesses won’t completely fall apart.
Now he fires the person who is supposed to keep watch over what is spent and puts in someone of his own choosing and obviously he is planning on making big profit off of this pandemic. He won’t get the virus himself because he is so Protected. And he couldn’t care less about anyone else. Yeah you defend him all day every day every post all week all month all year.
 
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