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Any myth that white cops shoot black suspects disproportionately is totally shattered. The left lies

OldTrapper

Council Member
Your side lied about Trump collusion with Russia.
Trump was not exonerated on this claim, and the reality is there was colluson

Your side lied about the Ukraine phone call, Schiff made up his own dialogue prior to the damning release of the transcript.
There is no transcript of the call. trump released a "memorandum" which has been proven to be a lie.

Your side lied about surveillance on the Trump campaign.
trumps claim was that he was being personally spied upon. No one lied upon watching what the trumps were up to just as trump "spied" on the Clinton's and others.

Your side lied about the supposed "Trump Muslim ban".
The ban was real until SCOTUS ordered it removed.

Your side lied- and still lies- about "Trump putting kids in cages"
Guess it depends on your definition of a "cage". Looks like one to me, and a filthy one at that.

Pelosi and Schumer ran forward with this week's "photo op" lie at the church
Wasn't a lie.
 

Dino

Russian Asset
Trump was not exonerated on this claim, and the reality is there was colluson



There is no transcript of the call. trump released a "memorandum" which has been proven to be a lie.



trumps claim was that he was being personally spied upon. No one lied upon watching what the trumps were up to just as trump "spied" on the Clinton's and others.



The ban was real until SCOTUS ordered it removed.



Guess it depends on your definition of a "cage". Looks like one to me, and a filthy one at that.



Wasn't a lie.
Here’s a shocker.
You ready??

You backed up Democrats lies.
With additional lies.
wrong, unsourced lies.
Imaginative and desperate, but lies all the same.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Yes, but it certainly doesn't excuse it, let alone justify it. Police brutality is the issue, not "systemic" racism.
 

EatTheRich

President
Trump was not exonerated on this claim, and the reality is there was colluson



There is no transcript of the call. trump released a "memorandum" which has been proven to be a lie.



trumps claim was that he was being personally spied upon. No one lied upon watching what the trumps were up to just as trump "spied" on the Clinton's and others.



The ban was real until SCOTUS ordered it removed.



Guess it depends on your definition of a "cage". Looks like one to me, and a filthy one at that.



Wasn't a lie.
Schiff also made it clear that he was paraphrasing the so-called transcript that had already been released, and his paraphrase did not differ in substance from the White House version.
 

OldTrapper

Council Member
Here’s a shocker.
You ready??

You backed up Democrats lies.
With additional lies.
wrong, unsourced lies. WHERE ARE YOUR SOURCES?:rolleyes:
Imaginative and desperate, but lies all the same.
Here is a real stocking shocker. YOU HAVE SAID NOTHING TO PROVE THEY ARE LIES JUST AS YOUR GAWD TRUMP NEVER DOES..
 

Dino

Russian Asset
Here is a real stocking shocker. YOU HAVE SAID NOTHING TO PROVE THEY ARE LIES JUST AS YOUR GAWD TRUMP NEVER DOES..
Yup, sorry all lies.

Trump was not exonerated on this claim, and the reality is there was colluson

There was NO collusion. Mueller couldn't find any working relationship between Trump, his campaign and the Kremlin. Even if there was detectable collusion, which there wasn't, it's not illegal. The only thing Trump was "not exonerated" on was the potential obstruction charges. No collusion- just a LIE.

There is no transcript of the call. trump released a "memorandum" which has been proven to be a lie.

There is a transcript of the call, and it made Schiff run for cover because what he was saying wasn't there. Caught in an awful and desperate LIE.


trumps claim was that he was being personally spied upon. No one lied upon watching what the trumps were up to just as trump "spied" on the Clinton's and others.

Trump "spied on the Clinton's and others"? What does this new lie mean??
meanwhile " the FBI dispatched against Trump allies multiple unnamed FBI informants known as confidential human sources (CHS). The most publicized was Stefan Halper


The ban was real until SCOTUS ordered it removed.

No, there never was a "Muslim ban", only an expansion into the Obama policy of restricting travel from people from seven countries.

That travel part of the order is a Muslim ban in the sense that most residents of those seven countries are Muslim. But it’s not a ban, in the sense that the vast majority of Muslims in the world don’t live in those countries and thus are not affected by the order.


Guess it depends on your definition of a "cage". Looks like one to me, and a filthy one at that.

The picture Democrats tried to pass off as "Trump putting kids in a cage" was actually from the OBAMA administration,.. an embarrassing lie for sure
And not only that, they tried this again...using a phony staged photo. A lie two-fer!


 

Mick

The Right is always right
It is a racial group’s rate of violent crime that determines police shootings, not the race of the officer.
And this is the simple truth that corrupt people keep ignoring. It really is staggering how this lie continues to be perpetuated and literally NO ONE in the mainstream media brings it up and calls this nonsense out for what it is. America is screwed.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
The only thing you are proving is that people are going to see, and believe, what they want to see, and believe. Both of your "studies" were done over a year ago, and are hardly new. Plus they were done with incomplete, and in many cases false, data.

Right on cue. A left winger can't stand to admit he's helping to perpetuate lies and is living a lie so what does he do? He claims the statistics themselves are lying to make him look stupid. Jesus Christ!

Of course, you are never going to get every single data point 100% of the time in a country of over 300 million people. But when you have local police departments, the FBI, watchdog groups, and even the Washington Post pouring over every single tidbit you are going to get it right more than 95% of the time (and even that might be low).

And what does that data continually say? Whether 2010 or 2015 or 2019 or 2020? Whether local police departments, the FBI, Washington Post or anyone else? That data is consistent and very powerful and non-mistaken. Blacks are not disproportionate victims of homicide at the hands of police officers when considering the number of interactions they have with cops. White officers are not more prone to shooting black people than black officers. White officers are not more prone to killing black suspects in contrast to white suspects when one takes the number of violent interactions into account.

It is a LIE. You are living it. The data is consistent and it all points in the same direction. Time to finally own up, isn't it?
 
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EatTheRich

President
And this is the simple truth that corrupt people keep ignoring. It really is staggering how this lie continues to be perpetuated and literally NO ONE in the mainstream media brings it up and calls this nonsense out for what it is. America is screwed.
What people ignore is that it is police procedures that determine numbers of police shootings. And asphyxiations. And hangings in jail.
 

EatTheRich

President
Right on cue. A left winger can't stand to admit he's helping to perpetuate lies and is a living so what does he do? He claims the statistics themselves are lying to make him look stupid. Jesus Christ!

Of course, you are never going to every single data point 100% of the time in a country of over 300 million people. But when you have local police departments, the FBI, watchdog groups, and even the Washington Post pouring over every single tidbit you are going to get it right more than 95% of the time (and even that might be low).

And what does that data continually say? Whether 2010 or 2015 or 2019 or 2020? Whether local police departments, the FBI, Washington Post or anyone else? That data is consistent and very powerful and non-mistaken. Blacks are not disproportionate victims of homicide at the hands of police officers when considering the number of interactions they have with cops. White officers are not more prone to shooting black people than black officers. White officers are not more prone to killing black suspects in contrast to white suspects when one takes the number of violent interactions into account.

It is a LIE. You are living it. The data is consistent and it all points in the same direction. Time to finally own up, isn't it?
So you’re saying the police are just bloodthirsty bastards and the reason their depravity is visited especially on the Black community is because our society is set up in a way that leads to most of the capitalist depravity is visited especially on the Black community.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
So you’re saying the police are just bloodthirsty bastards and the reason their depravity is visited especially on the Black community is because our society is set up in a way that leads to most of the capitalist depravity is visited especially on the Black community.
When cops are forced to encounter bloodthirsty bastards is when the VAST majority of suspects die at the hands of officers. The more likely you are to be bloodthirsty the more likely you are to be violent and the more likely that violence is needed to stop you.

Once again, it isn't the race of the suspect or officer that determines these outcomes. It's the criminal nature of the suspect that determines it.
 

EatTheRich

President
When cops are forced to encounter bloodthirsty bastards is when the VAST majority of suspects die at the hands of officers. The more likely you are to be bloodthirsty the more likely you are to be violent and the more likely that violence is needed to stop you.

Once again, it isn't the race of the suspect or officer that determines these outcomes. It's the criminal nature of the suspect that determines it.
Police repress neighborhoods disproportionately, not individuals. And of course the relative segregation of those neighborhoods is part of what the police maintain.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
Police repress neighborhoods disproportionately, not individuals. And of course the relative segregation of those neighborhoods is part of what the police maintain.
This is race baiting gobbledygook. It's just rambling that doesn't mean anything. Murderers are not forced to murder. They make that decision. Police officers must intervene/arrest to uphold the rule of law and enforce justice for the victims. These suspects are often violent and combative. These facts lead to officers at times having to make split second decisions to save their own life or those around them. Some of these suspects die as a result.

Facts: The violent nature of the suspect is the greatest determinant in the rate of death at the hands of a cop. The race of the suspect nor the police officer are determining variables to any significant degree. These facts have been borne out time and time and time again.

You are spreading lies. You notice how conservatives are able to cite cold, hard statistics time and time again while you blabber out cops "regressing neighborhoods" in a mass conspiracy? You should use data and facts and not propaganda. Try it for ONCE.
 

EatTheRich

President
This is race baiting gobbledygook. It's just rambling that doesn't mean anything. Murderers are not forced to murder. They make that decision. Police officers must intervene/arrest to uphold the rule of law and enforce justice for the victims. These suspects are often violent and combative. These facts lead to officers at times having to make split second decisions to save their own life or those around them. Some of these suspects die as a result.

Facts: The violent nature of the suspect is the greatest determinant in the rate of death at the hands of a cop. The race of the suspect nor the police officer are determining variables to any significant degree. These facts have been borne out time and time and time again.

You are spreading lies. You notice how conservatives are able to cite cold, hard statistics time and time again while you blabber out cops "regressing neighborhoods" in a mass conspiracy? You should use data and facts and not propaganda. Try it for ONCE.
If the capitalists can’t keep the peace without systematic, dramatically racially uneven, killings, the whole system is rotten from top to bottom.

Murderers are not forced to murder. They make that choice. And that doesn’t change when they put on a magic badge.
 

Mick

The Right is always right
If the capitalists can’t keep the peace without systematic, dramatically racially uneven, killings, the whole system is rotten from top to bottom.

Murderers are not forced to murder. They make that choice. And that doesn’t change when they put on a magic badge.
I asked you for facts and you resorted to left wing propaganda and gobbledygook again.

"Systematic, dramatically racially uneven killings". Already disproven in this thread and you have been completely unable to mount a challenge to the facts presented.

We're pretty much done here until you stopping posting gibberish.
 
Surely you are not going to argue that "conservatives" operate under fact
s, not emotion? 3+ years of trump?
You have let others do the thinking for you when it comes to Trump. Your synthesis, coming from others thinking, is emotion. You are emotional about Trump.
 
If the capitalists can’t keep the peace without systematic, dramatically racially uneven, killings, the whole system is rotten from top to bottom.
Your premise about "uneven" racial killings is untrue.
Murderers are not forced to murder. They make that choice. And that doesn’t change when they put on a magic badge.
Maybe if you'd stop thinking about it as a magic badge you'd have reasoned expectations about it.
 

EatTheRich

President
I asked you for facts and you resorted to left wing propaganda and gobbledygook again.

"Systematic, dramatically racially uneven killings". Already disproven in this thread and you have been completely unable to mount a challenge to the facts presented.

We're pretty much done here until you stopping posting gibberish.
The facts still are that the percentage of Blacks attacked is much greater than the percentage of Blacks among us. Whatever you want to say justifies that, ultimately society is responsible for making a category as artificial as “Hutus” and “Tutsis” (or in literature Star-Bellied Sneetches and Sneetches Without Stars) a critical predictor of how likely you are to be shot by agents of the government.
 

OldTrapper

Council Member
You have let others do the thinking for you when it comes to Trump. Your synthesis, coming from others thinking, is emotion. You are emotional about Trump.
So, in following the right wing tradition, you believe that if you pile more bull shit on the pile it will suddenly smell better.
 

OldTrapper

Council Member
Right on cue. A left winger can't stand to admit he's helping to perpetuate lies and is living a lie so what does he do? He claims the statistics themselves are lying to make him look stupid. Jesus Christ!
Try calling on someone you know, someone like Lucifer.

Of course, you are never going to get every single data point 100% of the time in a country of over 300 million people. But when you have local police departments, the FBI, watchdog groups, and even the Washington Post pouring over every single tidbit you are going to get it right more than 95% of the time (and even that might be low).
So, you admit that the data is incomplete yet still want others to travel down your rabbit hole.

It is a LIE. You are living it. The data is consistent and it all points in the same direction. Time to finally own up, isn't it?
As I said before, people are going to believe what they want to believe. There are over 50 different studies done on this topic. You simply chose to believe the one closest to your heart.
 
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