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Postal System to end Saturday deliveries Aug 5th

Bo-4

Senator
Yep, no doubt the do-nothing Congressional Republicans are licking their chops and collecting more dirty money from private carriers over this first step to privatization.

Personally, i can do without Saturday delivery.. but the 75 year pre-funding of pension plans requirement was one of the dirtiest Republican tricks in history.
 
Yep, no doubt the do-nothing Congressional Republicans are licking their chops and collecting more dirty money from private carriers over this first step to privatization.

Personally, i can do without Saturday delivery.. but the 75 year pre-funding of pension plans requirement was one of the dirtiest Republican tricks in history.
So in essence you are saying thanks to Republicans technology has replaced the letter carrier and the need to hand deliver millions upon millions of communications each day.

Gee I always thought you were big on technology whats up with that?
 

NightSwimmer

Senator
Is this just another example of the great right wing Republican holy grail of privatization and less govt ? Soon Americans will forced to depend on whim private companies for weekend service ?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/06/postal-service-saturday-mail_n_2629373.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008

You know that I'm not a Republican, but I feel the need to come to their defense on this one. The postal service is bleeding money, and it has more to do with the Internet than with the Republicans' penchant for privatizing each and every government service. I don't see how the postal service can avoid cost cutting measures. Raising their postage prices would only reduce the volume of mail that they currently handle.

That being said, the existence of the postal service was required by the Constitution and the operation of the postal service was privatized to a great extent back in the early 1980s. When that was done, a unique requirement for the postal service to maintain a large retirement fund account placed a significant financial burden upon them.
 

Bo-4

Senator
So in essence you are saying thanks to Republicans technology has replaced the letter carrier and the need to hand deliver millions upon millions of communications each day.

Gee I always thought you were big on technology whats up with that?
No, that's not at all what i said but i always admire your spin Lupe. USPS will be fine as they have adapted with the times with a myriad of new products and services.

Honestly.. do you know of ANY US company (Government, Public or Private) that's been forced by Congress to pre-fund pension plans for 75 years?
 
No, that's not at all what i said but i always admire your spin Lupe. USPS will be fine as they have adapted with the times with a myriad of new products and services.

Honestly.. do you know of ANY US company (Government, Public or Private) that's been forced by Congress to pre-fund pension plans for 75 years?
Thats all fine and well but you are definately not addressing the root cause of USPS woes and its not pension funds the pension fund funding is just another result of the root cause and it ain't Republicans.
 

fairsheet

Senator
Sunday delivery? (USPS trivia). The USPS actually delivered mail on Sundays, until the early 1920's. It wasn't stopped for cost reasons. It seems it was the "religious lobby" that put the kibosh on it.
 

888888

Council Member
You know that I'm not a Republican, but I feel the need to come to their defense on this one. The postal service is bleeding money, and it has more to do with the Internet than with the Republicans' penchant for privatizing each and every government service. I don't see how the postal service can avoid cost cutting measures. Raising their postage prices would only reduce the volume of mail that they currently handle.

That being said, the existence of the postal service was required by the Constitution and the operation of the postal service was privatized to a great extent back in the early 1980s. When that was done, a unique requirement for the postal service to maintain a large retirement fund account placed a significant financial burden upon them.
The two biggest things are the funding in advance that no other govt program has to do, and that congress won't pass the laws allowing the post office to run their business like other business do. There are many things that the post office could do but aren't allowed under the rules passed by congress that would make them more proficient and making money.
 

NightSwimmer

Senator
The two biggest things are the funding in advance that no other govt program has to do, and that congress won't pass the laws allowing the post office to run their business like other business do. There are many things that the post office could do but aren't allowed under the rules passed by congress that would make them more proficient and making money.

The USPS, like the Federal Reserve, is one of those odd quasi-governmental agencies now that it has been partially privatized. Some folks would call what has been done with the postal service an example of fascism. I'd tend to agree.
 
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