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So libs. What would you say to these parents?

Minotaur

Governor
This is a common covert practice to get the bad guy. Has been for many decades. In order to do covert work in the criminal world you work with criminals. So I would tell those parents to be the change they want to see. As a parent I would weigh the loss of lives for doing nothing versus doing something and then I would seriously look at why things went wrong and take myself to Washington if I felt my child died for nothing. I would tell them how much is too much is their's alone to determine.

What I think this also shows is that border guards are as brave as any law enforcement officer and it has always been a dangerous job but it is even worse now with drug running and every element of crime. My sympathies go to these parents.
 

degsme

Council Member
Translation: Holder is a criminal and should be prosecuted.
Waterboarding terrorists, bad, killing our own border patrol agents, good.
 

Colorforms

Senator
What I think this also shows is that border guards are as brave as any law enforcement officer and it has always been a dangerous job but it is even worse now with drug running and every element of crime.
More so since Obama has been gun running to the Mexican drug cartels.
 

Minotaur

Governor
Translation: Holder is a criminal and should be prosecuted.
Waterboarding terrorists, bad, killing our own border patrol agents, good.
Why do you say that? I doubt anyone thinks gun running is a good idea and I also think few would say it helps in a war on drugs. But you asked what someone would say to a parent in the face of their loss. What did you expect? Anyone would walk up and say "Your son died for nothing!" No. You'd want them to draw their own conclusion and support them in whatever they needed to do.

Don't quite get what you wanted or expected here.
 

Minotaur

Governor
More so since Obama has been gun running to the Mexican drug cartels.
That could be true and it would not surprise me one way or the other. I hope these parents find the strength to make sure this stops in the future. I just don't see anything good about it.
 

bdtex

Administrator
Staff member
I would make sure that they understand that the GOP will toss them aside when it's done with them politically.
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
1. What law has Holder broken?
2. Who in the US government killed the border patrol agent?

Would the Mexican gangs who killed the agent have been unarmed if not for the guns they obtained through the straw buys that the ATF was tracking?
 

degsme

Council Member
Me too. This is an awful thing to have to tell any parent.
REally? That because of a foolish war on some drugs - started by a republican and escalated by the Conservative R Reagan... their son died. And the guns were there regardless.


Yeah that's an awful thing for a conservative to own up to
 

middleview

President
Supporting Member
Exactly what did Obama do to facilitate the movement of guns across the border? F&F was not Obama's idea. It is unlikely that he even had been told about an ATF operation to track guns.

Are you aware of the fact that the police are involved in stings all the time in which criminals, drugs, stolen goods are not secured by the police.

Iran currently has Hawk anti-aircraft missiles sold to them by Reagan while they were fighting a war against Iraq. If we or the Israelis attempt to attack the Iranian nuclear research facilities, we may well see those missiles again....or their radar guidance systems paired with other missiles.

Is that the kind of gun running you approve of?
 

Colorforms

Senator
Degsme, my initial reaction to the callousness and thoughtlessness of your post was to not care if you reported me or not, but in truth, you're not even worth getting upset over anymore.

My only wish is that America sees people like you for what you are.
 

jammer

Mayor
Or because this is on Fox, they must be liars?

Family of Murdered Border Agent Breaks Silence, Lashes Out at Holder


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/11/11/family-murdered-border-agent-breaks-silence-lashes-out-at-holder/#ixzz1dQgGqA7w
The same thing I have said to the folks of the over 4,000 who have lost their lives in Bush's invasion of Iraq that was based on lies. That while I regret their loss, I honor their family member for their service to this great nation. What do you say, "Hate Obama, hate Obama!" ?
 

Colorforms

Senator
BS Middleview, you can't do a cross border operation like this without state dept approval. This whole operation was botched from inception.
 
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