NightSwimmer
Senator
So what do you call a desire to eliminate the existing ruling class because you are convinced that you could do a better job of ruling?
As long as they rule your money, they rule you.
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Queen Titania
Senator
And grumpy, except on a Sunday when we might even get a beautiful song out of him ;-)
Many things I love have already been and more will in the future be thrown out with the Bath water too, I sympathize with the conservative frame of mind but the rotten changes happen simply and only because those whose hands the powers are in have become out and out rotten Rulers again. There have been rare chances in the past of good Politicians taking the Hot Seat and from now on in as our systems are systematically deassembled we can expect no more chances at all .............. we missed them.
From now on in the changes will be radical one way or the other ....it is our choice which way they do go. Either Rule over us becomes total, the Planet turned into a toxic wasteland and Chaos reigns on most of it or we take hold and all repent, change our minds, think of a better way ...........I like Steiners' Three Fold Commonwealth myself as a basis of thought. As yet I have found no better ..............
Queen Titania
Senator
They change their ways .................They have bloody been dismantling everything ........they have been changing the furniture at will ........... put it all back and change it otherwise.
LanceFreeman
Mayor
He still doesn't get it.
Wahbooz
Governor
We've let the intrinsic value get away from us, by looking for cheaper metals to make our coins from. But at the same time there are those who exported pennies for the metallic value, bringing them a bit over 2 cents for each penny that was minted prior to 1982. But when you consider $5.5 billion, and people harp about debt, is paper money that convenient. Especially when you see how many germs are carried on a well circulated bill.
Wahbooz
Governor
How about you don't get it.
LanceFreeman
Mayor
Care to clarify? You just lost me.
Wahbooz
Governor
You told NS I still didn't get it. Well I do get the cost savings switching to dollar coins over 'paper' (cotton) bills. So I'd say you don't get it.
LanceFreeman
Mayor
You mis-read my quote. I was referring to Swimmer's previous post, where he replied to your own post about metal coins lasting longer than paper money. He wasn't getting the point you (and Queen) were trying to put across about the lasting power of precious metals over declining fiat money. He fails to understand that fiat money always leads to eventual collapse.
Wahbooz
Governor
Gotcha, my apologies.
Days
Commentator
Along those lines....
My two prong defense against that collapse is for the nation to:
1) mint a fiat coin that is large enough to retire the debt, so the nation doesn't collapse with the FED dollar.
2) mint a real coin so that we Americans have a money supply that doesn't collapse with the FED dollar.
The FED dollar can not be saved; they have printed a quadrillion dollars out of thin air, backed by nothing. But there's no reason for America to let the FED take us down with them. (If only they hadn't bought off our entire government.)
Would if we minted real silver coins (solid pure silver) for...
$100
$500
And then minted real gold coin (solid pure gold) for...
$1000
$5000
And then minted fiat platinum coins (but still make them out of solid platinum) for...
$100,000,000
$500,000,000
that would probably do the trick. We are gonna suffer like crazy whenever our aquifers run dry anyway, no sense in adding the misery of a total currency meltdown.
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LanceFreeman
Mayor
Am sure our currency and economy can be saved, no problem, Days, except that banker agents are in all positions of decision making in finance and government. Our Congress is riddled with them. They are all globalists, dedicated to the planned (Jewish) New World Order; and make no mistake that it is Jewish. [Time we brung out the Varmint, instead of dancing around the subject, for fear of being labeled racists].
Unfortunately for our country, our citizens believe this is all conspiracy theory, refuse to look into the matter, and so keep doing what they have always done, thinking that maybe God will step in and save them from disaster at the last minute. Deus ex machina. Fact is, there can be no saving this stoopid bunch, or their economy, or their currency. The Chinese are screaming for the dropping of the U.S. dollar as the world's reserve currency, to be replaced by the Yuan, and they are being seriously listened to.
Wahbooz
Governor
Not just the Yuan. The Yen, the Euro, the Rupee for starters. Hey, can't say the U.S. doesn't deserve it.
Woolleybugger
Mayor
It's called a jubilee folks.
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Cheeseandwine
Guest
People may come and go but TAXES stay and it's with you wherever you go 
What about Vanguard? I hear they are a good mutual fund company.
Queen Titania
Senator
Everything sits under them .........like a pyramid it is the top point and all else sits under it spaying out to the bottom. That is how the World is owned/controled by the few, unnoticed by most.
Woolleybugger
Mayor
There is plenty of wealth in the US. All we need to do is circulate it better. The tried and true way to do it is through taxes. Rome did it by confiscation, most nations have done this sooner or later via a revolution. I think the safest way to do it is through taxation at death and on yearly tax bills. Make anyone who earns more than say 100 million pay up to 90% tax, no deductions. Upon death, taxes take everything beyond say 10 million per heir. That will get it done fast without an inflationary policy at all.
NightSwimmer
Senator
They are. I'd recommend them.
NightSwimmer
Senator
It's not a question of the efficiency of producing one form of currency over the other. What I don't "get" is the magical power of metal coinage. You might not "get" it either.
