How dumb can the GOP get on Obamacare?

IndependentinWis · Apr 19, 2014

I mean they are out there telling everyone that next year the rates for health insurance are going to at least double and maybe even triple. If I was running the GOP I would have said something like, the rates are going up by at least 10% which is twice the rate they have been. The Dems would have had to say they would be less and if the rates go up by only 20%, the GOP could say that it was even worse than they thought and that the Dems probably knew and didn't tell people and the GOP will look good. Now If the rates go up by 20%, the Dems can say, see we told you they weren't going to double or triple. The actual rate increase was much lower than anyone thought and they and the ACA will look good. I mean the GOP has been great at lowering expectations for like GW Bush and were smart to do so. Now, even if the rates go up by 50%, they will have made that look like a reasonable increase.

JuliefromOhio · Apr 19, 2014

this dumb.

drivebyheckler · Apr 19, 2014

"They" are telling "everyone"??

Why is my BS detector moving off the chart???

Dawg · Apr 19, 2014

IndependentinWis said:
I mean they are out there telling everyone that next year the rates for health insurance are going to at least double and maybe even triple. If I was running the GOP I would have said something like, the rates are going up by at least 10% which is twice the rate they have been. The Dems would have had to say they would be less and if the rates go up by only 20%, the GOP could say that it was even worse than they thought and that the Dems probably knew and didn't tell people and the GOP will look good. Now If the rates go up by 20%, the Dems can say, see we told you they weren't going to double or triple. The actual rate increase was much lower than anyone thought and they and the ACA will look good. I mean the GOP has been great at lowering expectations for like GW Bush and were smart to do so. Now, even if the rates go up by 50%, they will have made that look like a reasonable increase.

'O' LIED from get-go......"if you like" and knew they were LIES......the supposedly 8 Million:
(1) how many of those lost their coverage
(2) how many have paid first premium
(3) how many are dependents of enrolled
(4) when mandated to enroll or be fined, sounds like a threat for many to enroll

of course 'O' or none of the faithful libs can answer the above question just continue with more lies to cover other lies.........66% of democrats think 'O' is lying......☻

Dawg · Apr 19, 2014

drivebyheckler said:
"They" are telling "everyone"??

Why is my BS detector moving off the chart???

probably due to the short bus coming by w/cartoons

drivebyheckler · Apr 19, 2014

Dawg said:
probably due to the short bus coming by w/cartoons

Heya dawg, I must have missed this "independent" posting how dumb Obama is to get caught lying so much about Obamacare.

Renee · Apr 20, 2014

drivebyheckler said:
Heya dawg, I must have missed this "independent" posting how dumb Obama is to get caught lying so much about Obamacare.

Yes....it's another conspiracy and this time the non partisan CBO is part of the cabal.
Be afraid........be afraid....they're out to get you. Everything good is a lie and everything bad is truth.

Constitutional Sheepdog · Apr 20, 2014

IndependentinWis said:
I mean they are out there telling everyone that next year the rates for health insurance are going to at least double and maybe even triple. If I was running the GOP I would have said something like, the rates are going up by at least 10% which is twice the rate they have been. The Dems would have had to say they would be less and if the rates go up by only 20%, the GOP could say that it was even worse than they thought and that the Dems probably knew and didn't tell people and the GOP will look good. Now If the rates go up by 20%, the Dems can say, see we told you they weren't going to double or triple. The actual rate increase was much lower than anyone thought and they and the ACA will look good. I mean the GOP has been great at lowering expectations for like GW Bush and were smart to do so. Now, even if the rates go up by 50%, they will have made that look like a reasonable increase.

Source please.

Constitutional Sheepdog · Apr 20, 2014

Renee said:
Yes....it's another conspiracy and this time the non partisan CBO is part of the cabal.
Be afraid........be afraid....they're out to get you. Everything good is a lie and everything bad is truth.

No it's not conspiracy that obama lied about obamacare.

zzigzzag · Apr 20, 2014

Dawg said:
'O' LIED from get-go......"if you like" and knew they were LIES......the supposedly 8 Million:
(1) how many of those lost their coverage
(2) how many have paid first premium
(3) how many are dependents of enrolled
(4) when mandated to enroll or be fined, sounds like a threat for many to enroll

of course 'O' or none of the faithful libs can answer the above question just continue with more lies to cover other lies.........66% of democrats think 'O' is lying......☻

66% of democrats think 'O' is lying

Compared to 100% who think all Republicans are lying all of the time.

But you do have Rush's list of "questions" down pat. Good boy.

Constitutional Sheepdog · Apr 20, 2014

obama liar of the year.

Dawg · Apr 20, 2014

zzigzzag said:
66% of democrats think 'O' is lying

Compared to 100% who think all Republicans are lying all of the time.

But you do have Rush's list of "questions" down pat. Good boy.

post your 100% LINK or be known as a damn liar.............the 66% LINK has been posted......

drivebyheckler · Apr 20, 2014

Renee said:
Yes....it's another conspiracy and this time the non partisan CBO is part of the cabal.
Be afraid........be afraid....they're out to get you. Everything good is a lie and everything bad is truth.

Obamacare is certainly a conspiracy of lies. Any fool can see that. As for the CBO, doubtful. They're just government morons who prove the garbage in garbage out philosophy is true everyday. You DO realize it is very common for the CBO to be incorrect, don't you?

drivebyheckler · Apr 20, 2014

Constitutional Sheepdog said:
No it's not conspiracy that obama lied about obamacare.

I would argue it is a conspiracy in that Obama coordinated those lies with others. That by definition makes it a conspiracy.

Constitutional Sheepdog · Apr 20, 2014

drivebyheckler said:
I would argue it is a conspiracy in that Obama coordinated those lies with others. That by definition makes it a conspiracy.

OK but I have no doubt he is behind the lies. Get the tin foil out

drivebyheckler · Apr 20, 2014

zzigzzag said:
66% of democrats think 'O' is lying

Compared to 100% who think all Republicans are lying all of the time.

But you do have Rush's list of "questions" down pat. Good boy.

Poor Ziggy... Running like a little bitch, defaults to pulling bogus numbers out of his ass.

Hilarious.

drivebyheckler · Apr 20, 2014

Constitutional Sheepdog said:
OK but I have no doubt he is behind the lies. Get the tin foil out

Oh totally. It's his baby. And now his cronies have the weight Obamacare around their necks as well. It's all good.

Renee · Apr 20, 2014

drivebyheckler said:
Obamacare is certainly a conspiracy of lies. Any fool can see that. As for the CBO, doubtful. They're just government morons who prove the garbage in garbage out philosophy is true everyday. You DO realize it is very common for the CBO to be incorrect, don't you?

Okay I got you. It's all a mass conspiracy. I heard only 532 people signed up for Obamacare and that all those people with existing conditions are being slaughtered. I also heard that the cap is now $223.80. It must be true I heard it on FOXNews.... And all those people saying they now have insurance when they didn't have before? They were all given chocolate candy to shut up..........and now they're in danger do diabetes.
Fear is what you thrive on so be afraid, be afraid, be afraid, have no faith.. It's all a conspiracy a secret cabal.

bdtex · Apr 20, 2014

IndependentinWis said:
I mean they are out there telling everyone that next year the rates for health insurance are going to at least double and maybe even triple. If I was running the GOP I would have said something like, the rates are going up by at least 10% which is twice the rate they have been. The Dems would have had to say they would be less and if the rates go up by only 20%, the GOP could say that it was even worse than they thought and that the Dems probably knew and didn't tell people and the GOP will look good. Now If the rates go up by 20%, the Dems can say, see we told you they weren't going to double or triple. The actual rate increase was much lower than anyone thought and they and the ACA will look good. I mean the GOP has been great at lowering expectations for like GW Bush and were smart to do so. Now, even if the rates go up by 50%, they will have made that look like a reasonable increase.

It'll be less than 10%. Rate increases are declining.

zzigzzag · Apr 21, 2014

Dawg said:
post your 100% LINK or be known as a damn liar.............the 66% LINK has been posted......

So you even lie about posting a link. Brilliant.

Posting Reid's picture with a description of the Bundy crowd's behavior was a nice touch, though.

It's always the honesty from the right that I find most impressive.

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