Roll Call (speaking of "new" posters"):

Minotaur · Jul 29, 2014

PhilFish said:
naturally.

but, you're not opposed to ferreting out those who dont have the courage to play it straight, too... yes?

As an aside.. in most cases all it takes is politely asking. rather than sockpuppeting. (it sucks to have to relearn, when their original nic/persona can be restored..

anyhoo.. I guess the hunt is on in the absence of that..

Absolutely. I hate sockpuppets. It is hard to ferret them out but I think you can look at location as well when things are adding up. You don't have to be exactly right. For instance if you see a familiar sockpuppet and the IP is different, look for location and familiarity. Many sites use leaning evidence and to me if someone is not a sockpuppet they will let you know in no uncertain terms. Dynamic IP's are a pain but you can overcome that with a combo of location, familiarity and some other tools.

I have no idea if anyone is a sockpuppet with multiple IP's so for me the onus is on me not to accuse and then lie directly about someone while lying to prove it. Guessing now and then is fine. Saying the poster has to say if they changed their name keeping the same IP (which is not the same as a sockpuppet) is nice but really up to them as a name change is pretty normal plus you have control under those circumstances. It is only when someone is a sockpuppet with multiple IP's that I'd dig deeper.

In any case posting someone's email as if someone hiding who they are would come as their known email name is after being comical, not cool. In any case, PJ and all sites have always had daily sockpuppets but at least PJ knows that about ten of them are probably one person. LOL

Do location searches when all else fails.

PhilFish · Jul 29, 2014

Minotaur said:
Absolutely. I hate sockpuppets. It is hard to ferret them out but I think you can look at location as well when things are adding up. You don't have to be exactly right. For instance if you see a familiar sockpuppet and the IP is different, look for location and familiarity. Many sites use leaning evidence and to me if someone is not a sockpuppet they will let you know in no uncertain terms. Dynamic IP's are a pain but you can overcome that with a combo of location, familiarity and some other tools.

I have no idea if anyone is a sockpuppet with multiple IP's so for me the onus is on me not to accuse and then lie directly about someone while lying to prove it. Guessing now and then is fine. Saying the poster has to say if they changed their name keeping the same IP (which is not the same as a sockpuppet) is nice but really up to them as a name change is pretty normal plus you have control under those circumstances. It is only when someone is a sockpuppet with multiple IP's that I'd dig deeper.

In any case posting someone's email as if someone hiding who they are would come as their known email name is after being comical, not cool. In any case, PJ and all sites have always had daily sockpuppets but at least PJ knows that about ten of them are probably one person. LOL

Do location searches when all else fails.

yup. that's easy. expecting the mods to remember every iteration of every poster is silly.

but, anyhoo, eventually we find them...and poof...

(i personally find it much more fun when we scrub out several hundred posts worth of sockpuppet effort... tee hee...

Minotaur · Jul 29, 2014

PhilFish said:
yup. that's easy. expecting the mods to remember every iteration of every poster is silly.

but, anyhoo, eventually we find them...and poof...

(i personally find it much more fun when we scrub out several hundred posts worth of sockpuppet effort... tee hee...

I think other sites just use the method of "Come to our attention" too. I think you'd go mad if you actually had to "seek" familiarity. They almost always come to moderators anyway. It is like they want to be recognized. Haha

LOL on wiping out a hundred at once. That would make it worth waiting to act.

Barbella · Jul 29, 2014

I fail to see (no matter how hard I try... and believe me, I AM trying!) what the big deal is about anything that happens (or doesn't happen) here?

We come here, say our piece, get into fights, sign off, do it again tomorrow. No one beats us, tortures us, or forces us to do anything we don't want to do. If people don't like this place? Find a different outlet.

Otherwise... just friggen' enjoy what it has to offer, get your money's worth (that no one pays, LOL), and have fun. NOTHING that happens here is worth a minute of aggravation.

Nada. Zip. Nix.

MrMike · Jul 29, 2014

Nope...

I had no idea of it being an email (at all) as it was a screen-name used on an old site many of us used (btw: what kind of idiot would use their email as a screen name?). The folks early posts above jogged my memory of that poster name which was indeed TRUE. If it was indeed you, then it is what it is. You can call it a hand-puppet instead if it makes you feel better?

Other than that, your deep anger and obsession with me since your very first post back is clear.

Please, do try to get over me in your PJ absence (which really isn't an absence).

Minotaur said:
You are a liar. norcal55 is my email so you just gave your sockpuppet lie away. I am reporting this.

PhilFish · Jul 29, 2014

Barbella said:
I fail to see (no matter how hard I try... and believe me, I AM trying!) what the big deal is about anything that happens (or doesn't happen) here?

We come here, say our piece, get into fights, sign off, do it again tomorrow. No one beats us, tortures us, or forces us to do anything we don't want to do. If people don't like this place? Find a different outlet.

Otherwise... just friggen' enjoy what it has to offer, get your money's worth (that no one pays, LOL), and have fun. NOTHING that happens here is worth a minute of aggravation.

Nada. Zip. Nix.

will keep that in mind...

MrMike · Jul 29, 2014

Note to ALL: Number of times I've ever hit the "report" button or wrote a complaining email/or post to mods = Zero

Why Not?: Unless it's truly threatening (safety issue) or involves illegal activity, I find the entire thing silly.

Good luck!

Dawg · Jul 29, 2014

Minotaur said:
You are a liar. norcal55 is my email so you just gave your sockpuppet lie away. I am reporting this.

that's the only reason you're back isn't it..........to REPORT

Dawg · Jul 29, 2014

Minotaur said:
Moderators,

I would like these posters to avoid lying about people being a sockpuppet. I want the lying to stop and do not want to be the subject of their drama.

I seriously think when posters do this you need to verify and give them a time out when they are wrong. This is not acceptable.

YOU THINK....................my gawd almighty.........what makes you think you're so important..........you claimed you where leaving and then come back and REPORT in a thread........liberalism is a disease.......worse disease if female.

Minotaur · Jul 29, 2014

Dawg said:
YOU THINK....................my gawd almighty.........what makes you think you're so important..........you claimed you where leaving and then come back and REPORT in a thread........liberalism is a disease.......worse disease if female.

LOL!

Jen · Jul 29, 2014

PhilFish said:
Make your case.. and Phil and company will hunt them down.

Use the reporting feature to submit your theory as to who is/was who...

be veeewy veewy kwiet....i'm huntn wabbits...

Citizen is our perpetual sock puppet here.
I am sure there are more but I am terrible at ferreting them out and I try at all cost to avoid your "report" button since I discovered it is frowned upon by some.

SW48 · Jul 29, 2014

Averaging about 3-5 new registered users per day. So definitely be on the look out for sockpuppets...

Jen · Jul 29, 2014

Barbella said:
I fail to see (no matter how hard I try... and believe me, I AM trying!) what the big deal is about anything that happens (or doesn't happen) here?

We come here, say our piece, get into fights, sign off, do it again tomorrow. No one beats us, tortures us, or forces us to do anything we don't want to do. If people don't like this place? Find a different outlet.

Otherwise... just friggen' enjoy what it has to offer, get your money's worth (that no one pays, LOL), and have fun. NOTHING that happens here is worth a minute of aggravation.

Nada. Zip. Nix.

That's exactly it, Barb.
I've never seen it stated better.

PhilFish · Jul 29, 2014

Jen said:
Citizen is our perpetual sock puppet here.
I am sure there are more but I am terrible at ferreting them out and I try at all cost to avoid your "report" button since I discovered it is frowned upon by some.

cit hasnt been here in forever. if you have two nics to connect... send a pm..

report button gets the action.... dunno who frowns..

Jen · Jul 29, 2014

PhilFish said:
cit hasnt been here in forever. if you have two nics to connect... send a pm..

report button gets the action.... dunno who frowns..

When a new poster instantly hates me, it's usually Cit. I will use the report button if/when that happens.

Barbella · Jul 30, 2014

Barbella said:
I could be wrong, but I don't recall seeing any of these people post here prior to, say, a week or two ago. Who ARE they? "New" posters?

CatsEye

Agnesgregory smith

John Curry

Brandom taylor

Raptor

Jhon punk

Talksalot

Gailgh

ChloeFlora

Add:

Chedonnah
sacoooo
hazelmendoza smith
steve headly
ryan nathan
raptor
manley
qtec90
TrueMan
mannu 11

Happy hunting, Phil!

LeilaniMP · Jul 30, 2014

Barbella said:
Add:

Chedonnah
sacoooo
hazelmendoza smith
steve headly
ryan nathan
raptor
manley
qtec90
TrueMan
mannu 11

Happy hunting, Phil!

There are always sockpuppets floating around.

The dramallamas who throw hissy fits and stomp away don't have the cajones to be themselves when they slither back in and try to hide behind another moniker, but always reveal themselves. Always.

Barbella · Jul 30, 2014

LeilaniMP said:
There are always sockpuppets floating around.

The dramallamas who throw hissy fits and stomp away don't have the cajones to be themselves when they slither back in and try to hide behind another moniker, but always reveal themselves. Always.

I've never understood the need to do that. It's just weird to me.

Addy · Jul 30, 2014

Barbella said:
Add:

Chedonnah
sacoooo
hazelmendoza smith
steve headly
ryan nathan
raptor
manley
qtec90
TrueMan
mannu 11

Happy hunting, Phil!

Doubtful Qtec90 is one, he has been posting under that name for many years.

Barbella · Jul 30, 2014

Addy said:
Doubtful Qtec90 is one, he has been posting under that name for many years.

Ok, scratch that one.... he must not be posting often, he is totally unfamiliar to me...

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