Irish Slavery

Jen said:

Many people went through the slavery cycle. The only one we really hear about is the black slaves. I have to wonder if Democrats perpetuate that story and make them victims in order to buy their votes and keep the votes coming ..........and have done that since they discovered it would work. Republicans freed the slaves, but Democrats figured out how to use slavery to their benefit.

Most groups of people who were at some point enslaved don't continue the victim mentality. The Irish certainly didn't do that.

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marvin martian said:

Recently I was talking with my daughters about how it was primarily Chinese slave labor that built many cities in the Northern California Bay Area (primarily San Francisco, Sacramento and Oakland). That's another case of enslavement that goes largely unmentioned in schools.

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Charcat said:

You "wonder?" LOL I learned about black slavery in school before the Civil Rights Act of 1964. At that time, it was considered a fact of history. Now it has become a subject of righteous indignation that blacks were ever treated in such a degrading way. IMO it should go back to being simply a fact of history--the black slavery issue is no worse than any other slavery in the history of the world. Why have the progressives taken it upon themselves to make this an issue TODAY? Simply politics...and disgusting politics at that.

Check your history and see if times were ever worse in the thousands-long years of history of people of the world. Time to put it away and get on with living--especially for the black people who have benefited greatly from their ancestors' hardships. Today those descendants have more opportunity than any of the rest of us ever dreamed of--they just have to take advantage of it.

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LeilaniMP said:

That's how the Democrats keep them under their thumb.

They don't want Blacks to think for themselves and get away from the perpetual idea of victimhood the Dems have saddled them with.

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Charcat said:

And some people are just doubly cursed.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-visits-ireland-his-ancestral-homeland/

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LeilaniMP said:

We are forever hearing about the slave trade concerning Africans.

The Irish were also sold as slaves. They were worked harder and received far worse treatment than Black Slaves.

I know this doesn't fit into the PC lore going around, but it is true.

In fact, A new study suggests that a million or more European Christians were enslaved by Muslims in North Africa between 1530 and 1780 – a far greater number than had ever been estimated before.

IRISH - 'THE FORGOTTEN WHITE SLAVES’ claims expert
The Irish slave trade began when the Proclamation of 1625 James II required Irish political prisoners be s...ent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70 percent of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.” “Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants and the majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.”

“During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, [Oliver] Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.”

Martin goes on to explain that for some reason, the Irish slaves are often remembered as ‘indentured servants.’ However, in most cases during the 17th and 18th centuries, they were no more than “human cattle.”

“...the African slave trade was just beginning during this same period,” writes Martin. “It is well recorded that African slaves, not tainted with the stain of the hated Catholic theology and more expensive to purchase, were often treated far better than their Irish counterparts.”

During the late 1600s, writes Martin, African slaves were far more expensive than their Irish counterparts - Africans would sell for around 50 sterling while Irish were often no more than 5 sterling.

The Irish were further exploited when the British began to “breed” Irish women - or girls, sometimes as young as 12 - with African males.

“These new “mulatto” slaves brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African slaves. This practice of breeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, legislation was passed “forbidding the practice of mating Irish slave women to African slave men for the purpose of producing slaves for sale.” In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large slave transport company.

http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/whtslav.htm

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Caroljo said:

That's interesting....if this was taught in school, I must have missed that class . Maybe because when talking about slavery, it was always about black slavery. There was very little mention (if any) also of blacks themselves owning black slaves. I wonder why we never hear of the Irish demanding to be compensated in any way for what their ancestors went through. Maybe they pulled up their big boy pants and dug themselves out of that hole and didn't blame people that had nothing to do with what their ancestors went through.

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Barbella said:

I actually posted about Irish Slavery some time ago, and was CRUCIFIED by certain PJ posters who shall not be mentioned by name, but have been known to us from "the other place" for a decade or so.

Everything you posted above is true, mp, but it can't be, because the Irish are white. Unless, of course, you're talking about BLACK IRISH... wait.... is it racist to say "Black" Irish?

At this point I'm not sure of anything... LOL

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LeilaniMP said:

As we know, there are certain PJ posters who vastly over-rate everything about themselves, their intelligence, and their opinions. They also push the lib dogma to the ends of the earth, no matter how many times they're shown to be either wrong, lying, or a combination of the two.

The narrative on Irish slavery doesn't fit their agenda, because after all....they have to foster the racism and concepts of White Guilt of Black Victimhood.

Wretched libpocrites...that's what they are.

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Jen said:

Many people went through the slavery cycle. The only one we really hear about is the black slaves. I have to wonder if Democrats perpetuate that story and make them victims in order to buy their votes and keep the votes coming ..........and have done that since they discovered it would work. Republicans freed the slaves, but Democrats figured out how to use slavery to their benefit.

Most groups of people who were at some point enslaved don't continue the victim mentality. The Irish certainly didn't do that.

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Fast Eddy said:

My god, I'm a victim and have a reason for my failures, my ancestors were slaves. I'm an angry white guy and am ready to loot.

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Sunset Rose said:

Thank you for admitting you aren't sure of anything.

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Sunset Rose said:

And the Irish didn't have to. Read my above posts.

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Jen said:

Nobody "has to" play the victim.
That's where the Democratic Party have placed blacks and the blacks have taken that victimhood and lived with it. A stinking shame.

Democrats have been "helping" blacks for 50 years and blacks are worse off now than when they started. Black families, once strong, have disintegrated. Black educational outlook is bleak. And black people are without jobs and more poor than ever. Democrats have the wrong idea. They think blacks can't succeed on their own so a forced handout (in the guise of affirmative action) is what will help. Democrat leaders KNOW it won't help, but they need that group of people to "offer" help to in order to get votes. It's all about buying votes.

Republicans are demonized for believing that ALL people regardless of their ethnic background or skin color should be treated alike and all have the ability to choose and live up to their own destiny. Why haven't Republicans reached out to black people better? Because Republicans see them and treat them as "people" NOT "special [retarded] black people". That's why.

The Democrat chickens are coming home to roost as people of all cultures and skin colors start to realize this.

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Sunset Rose said:

But since you mentioned Black families, let me tell you a little story about mine. My Dad was very light skinned, his Mom was either White or very close to it. He had relatives who were fair enough to pass for White and did. One of his female cousins left her community and family and married a White man. They never heard from her again after that.
I think of this story often. Life for Blacks must have been very hard if some of them were willing to leave behind everything they knew just to live in the White world. Now, just think---no Irish American had to do anything like that to feel free and live a decent life.
The time period here would have been the 1920's. My Dad was born in 1907, about 50 years after the end of slavery.

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Sunset Rose said:

But since you mentioned Black families, let me tell you a little story about mine. My Dad was very light skinned, his Mom was either White or very close to it. He had relatives who were fair enough to pass for White and did. One of his female cousins left her community and family and married a White man. They never heard from her again after that.
I think of this story often. Life for Blacks must have been very hard if some of them were willing to leave behind everything they knew just to live in the White world. Now, just think---no Irish American had to do anything like that to feel free and live a decent life.
The time period here would have been the 1920's. My Dad was born in 1907, about 50 years after the end of slavery.

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