No Fear

If you had been raised with the fear that your parents would be ripped from you on any given day....

Days said:

If you had been raised with the fear that your parents would be ripped from you on any given day....

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Children born to Mexican nationals here in the U.S. are dual citizenship individuals. They are legal Mexican citizens too. Nothing keeps children from being with their parents.

Days said:

If you had been raised with the fear that your parents would be ripped from you on any given day....

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Yeah, well here is a shocker for you to ponder over..................

Would this not apply to the children whose parents knowingly broke any of our OTHER laws as well?

Hey, why is it no one is boo-fukin-hooin' for the kids whose parent(s) chose to just ignore our laws against illegally entering the homes (houses), of US citizens the way they are for the kids whose parent(s) chose to just ignore our laws against illegally entering the home (country), of US citizens?

If the parent chooses to be a criminal just to "provide better" for his family by illegally entering your home shall we not only forgive that crime but ALSO make it YOUR responsibility to provide for him and his family's needs from then on?

Oh,.........If he agrees this will be the only law he will elect to just ignore, does your yard work for you, has his wife clean your house, basically do tasks you don't want to do yourself I mean.....

UPNYA2 said:

Yeah, well here is a shocker for you to ponder over..................

Would this not apply to the children whose parents knowingly broke any of our OTHER laws as well?

Hey, why is it no one is boo-fukin-hooin' for the kids whose parent(s) chose to just ignore our laws against illegally entering the homes (houses), of US citizens the way they are for the kids whose parent(s) chose to just ignore our laws against illegally entering the home (country), of US citizens?

If the parent chooses to be a criminal just to "provide better" for his family by illegally entering your home shall we not only forgive that crime but ALSO make it YOUR responsibility to provide for him and his family's needs from then on?

If he agrees this will be the only law he will elect to just ignore of course.........

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There is a beginning of a good point here.

Because obviously illegals suppress wages. Those wages are taken form American citizens.

Much like a burlgar steals from a home.

UPNYA2 said:

Yeah, well here is a shocker for you to ponder over..................

Would this not apply to the children whose parents knowingly broke any of our OTHER laws as well?

Hey, why is it no one is boo-fukin-hooin' for the kids whose parent(s) chose to just ignore our laws against illegally entering the homes (houses), of US citizens the way they are for the kids whose parent(s) chose to just ignore our laws against illegally entering the home (country), of US citizens?

If the parent chooses to be a criminal just to "provide better" for his family by illegally entering your home shall we not only forgive that crime but ALSO make it YOUR responsibility to provide for him and his family's needs from then on?

Oh,.........If he agrees this will be the only law he will elect to just ignore, does your yard work for you, has his wife clean your house, basically do tasks you don't want to do yourself I mean.....

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It wasnt a post about the politics... it was about the fear of living with that threat.... children are affected by that.

i guess that's the downside of having parents who are lawbreakers.

pick your parents more carefully. or urge them to obey the law?

Days said:

It wasnt a post about the politics... it was about the fear of living with that threat.... children are affected by that.

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If it was indeed NOT about politics, if in fact it were, as you claim, about children living in fear of losing a parent or two due to them possibly being sent away one day for knowingly breaking the law, why is it not addressed toward encouraging everyone to forgive ALL crimes?

Instead of this 1, VERY political crime?

Days said:

It wasnt a post about the politics... it was about the fear of living with that threat.... children are affected by that.

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There are plenty of happy children with their parents in other countries all over the world. Most of those parents wouldn't dream of abandoning their children in another country.

UPNYA2 said:

If it was indeed NOT about politics, if in fact it were, as you claim, about children living in fear of losing a parent or two due to them possibly being sent away one day for knowingly breaking the law, why is it not addressed toward encouraging everyone to forgive ALL crimes?

Instead of this 1, VERY political crime?

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I'm not following your logic here. This action is supposed to give illegal parents who have children in our system, growing up here, a way to come forward and pay taxes and be accepted. If the parents have committed any of the other crimes, they get deported. So this is aimed at other-wise law abiding parents; not illegal aliens without kids, it isn't doing a thing for people who are not bringing up children in our system or haven't been here 5 years or more doing that... so it isnt about the adults, it is about the kids... all your politics aimed at the parents misses the point; if these parents get deported, the govt wont deport the kids, the kids are in school here, they stay, all your babble about deporting the whole family is stupid; it isnt feasible and it isnt legal, this action is about making it safe for the parents of kids, where the kids are here in some legal fasion already.

So it all boils down to eliminating the fear of having their parents deported removed from these kids.

resident_evil said:

There are plenty of happy children with their parents in other countries all over the world. Most of those parents wouldn't dream of abandoning their children in another country.

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Are you talking about the kids from Honduras? Because I'm talking about families living here for 5 years or more...

UPNYA2 said:

Yeah, well here is a shocker for you to ponder over..................

Would this not apply to the children whose parents knowingly broke any of our OTHER laws as well?

Hey, why is it no one is boo-fukin-hooin' for the kids whose parent(s) chose to just ignore our laws against illegally entering the homes (houses), of US citizens the way they are for the kids whose parent(s) chose to just ignore our laws against illegally entering the home (country), of US citizens?

If the parent chooses to be a criminal just to "provide better" for his family by illegally entering your home shall we not only forgive that crime but ALSO make it YOUR responsibility to provide for him and his family's needs from then on?

Oh,.........If he agrees this will be the only law he will elect to just ignore, does your yard work for you, has his wife clean your house, basically do tasks you don't want to do yourself I mean.....

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You're comparing violent criminals to people who snuck into our Country and found jobs that were available to them even in a bad economy.

Days said:

Are you talking about the kids from Honduras? Because I'm talking about families living here for 5 years or more...

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All of them. There is nothing wrong with living in latin America. What is wrong is that America has abandoned latin America to its own devices despite indications of failings states threatening our national security. We should get something along a consent decree requiring new behavior and if not invade and nation build.

resident_evil said:

All of them. There is nothing wrong with living in latin America. What is wrong is that America has abandoned latin America to its own devices despite indications of failings states threatening our national security. We should get something along a consent decree requiring new behavior and if not invade and nation build.

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Ever hear of English common law? Our real estate laws are based upon it. There's an idea in there that the land pretty much belongs to whoever is using it. So if you own a million acres out west and some nativess happen to be living on part of it; the part they live on belongs to them.... after they have lived there long enough.

Its kind of important to differentiate between immigrants who want to come here without filling out all the paperwork, and immigrants who already did that a decade ago.

as seen on tv said:

i guess that's the downside of having parents who are lawbreakers.

pick your parents more carefully. or urge them to obey the law?

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Laws are behavior... our laws are how we want to behave, in this case, its how we want to behave towards members of our society who came here without filling out all the ridiculous paperwork at the INS. Guarantee you that it is truly ridiculous and difficult pile of paperwork and hoops to jump through and the hoops are set very high on purpose because we supposedly dont want people to come here.... but thats not really the case, actually we want them to come here, we just want to make it illegal, that way we can pay them half as much to do the same job as legal residents. Once society has played that same game on ten million people... you cant pretend it isn't happening on purpose.

Days said:

Ever hear of English common law? Our real estate laws are based upon it. There's an idea in there that the land pretty much belongs to whoever is using it. So if you own a million acres out west and some nativess happen to be living on part of it; the part they live on belongs to them.... after they have lived there long enough.

Its kind of important to differentiate between immigrants who want to come here without filling out all the paperwork, and immigrants who already did that a decade ago.

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Not all crimes have a statute of limitations and certainly immigration does not. Nazi's who lied to get into the U.S. were sent home 40 years later even after given citizenship. As have any number of other legal immigrants for various reasons.

So b.s. somebody else. Nice try. :0)

resident_evil said:

Not all crimes have a statute of limitations and certainly immigration does not. Nazi's who lied to get into the U.S. were sent home 40 years later even after given citizenship. As have any number of other legal immigrants for various reasons.

So b.s. somebody else. Nice try. :0)

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equating Mexicans to Nazis is the real bs artist...
These are not war criminals we are dealing with here, these are law-abiding parents of children growing up in our system... get a grip

Days said:

equating Mexicans to Nazis is the real bs artist...
These are not war criminals we are dealing with here, these are law-abiding parents of children growing up in our system... get a grip

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I used a rather well known example I'd expect even you to recognize and advised you there were any number of other reason people were deported years after arriving. It was an example. It was not a comparison between Mexicans and Nazis!!! Only a logical illiterate would think that.

I'm sick of progressives. You can't converse w/o some inane prattly shit that doesn't logically follow a damned thing.

resident_evil said:

I used a rather well known example I'd expect even you to recognize and advised you there were any number of other reason people were deported years after arriving. It was an example. It was not a comparison between Mexicans and Nazis!!! Only a logical illiterate would think that.

I'm sick of progressives. You can't converse w/o some inane prattly shit that doesn't logically follow a damned thing.

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Don't blame me for reading your post the way it was written. What were you doing with that post?

okay, so what you are saying then is there were completely disconnected reasons for deportation used in the past and therefore we need to deport these people? Or are you just babbling on about nothing but sending inuendo that these people should be deported?

You dont seem to give a damn about freeing 5 million American children from living in fear of having their parents deported.

Days said:

You dont seem to give a damn about freeing 5 million American children from living in fear of having their parents deported.

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Those children will go with their parents. What fear?

resident_evil said:

Those children will go with their parents. What fear?

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No they wont, they will stay in school... capice?