If he died as a result of the choke hold, but lived for an hour and half, I'm sure he'd be suffering. Gasping for air, wheezing, crying. It hurts to think about it. Poor guy.
C'mon folks...liberalism killed Eric Garner
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Bugsy McGurk
President
He was rendered unconscious at the scene. You figure his death after he was taken to the hospital was a coincidence unrelated to his violent arrest?
That fat guy should have been able to withstand a "simple choke hold". That is the reasoning of Boca and Mr. Friscus.
Mr. Friscus
Governor
You're creating your own details to make yourself feel better about your position.
I used to work out at mixed martial art gyms and did my share of ground fighting there. People, even very overweight guys, got choked out on a regular basis at times when it was a competition.
None died.
Choking out is not a killing maneuver. You squeeze the neck vessels to cause pressure into the brain to make the person pass out long before the body goes without air for too long and causes brain damage.
Did those guys have ashtma? High blood pressure? Did they have the weight of four grown men on their backs? Or were they fighting one on one?
Bugsy McGurk
President
Mr. Friscus
Governor
I'd imagine there were plenty of health problems amongst those. I myself have high cholesterol and sleep apnea.
So now you're saying he was crushed?
Because any guy who has played football (or any girl who has gone to a frat party) has had probably more than four guys on top of them..
The weight of four people no doubt would feel a bit crushing, wouldn't you think?
I must run, Mr. Friscus. It's been nice talking to somebody with lots of medical knowledge such as yourself (snicker). See ya later. P.S. That sure is an ugly avatar.
Mr. Friscus
Governor
Yes, but not directly causing a man to die, especially one of his size.
Bugsy McGurk
President
Mr. Friscus
Governor
It's from the video game "Metroid", one of my all time favs.
Boca
Governor
That means you don't know anything about heart attacks and how efficient doctors in hospitals are at saving people who have them. Gasping for breath and suffering...geezus!
Boca
Governor
I didn't say it. ABC News said it that afternoon. Reporters get their information from the hospital. That means it was a spokesperson of the hospital that said it.
I'm thinking they would be pretty sure since they have to fill out the death certificates.
Which of course no one has been allowed to see. For that matter while I can find the Michael Brown autopsy report online, I can't find Eric Garner's.
Why would that be?
Ya think maybe the powers that be, the ones who try to control our minds, would really want the news to get out that he died of cardiac arrest an hour and a half after entering the hospital, or maybe 2 hours after the incident. Much better to stay with the choke hold narrative and persuade the medical examiner to declare "homicide" instead of a "heart attack"
That way they could create some more racist rage in the streets like they did in Ferguson couldn't they?
It is very common for heart attack victims to be short of breath. But, I really don't believe Eric Garner died from a heart attack. He died from the choke hold that Daniel Pantaleo put him in.
So why are you repeating it, if you don't believe it yourself?
Is it your position that he'd have died with or without the choke hold and that dying less than 90 minutes after being attacked by 5 police officers was just an unfortunate co-incidence?
Boca
Governor
ABC News reported that afternoon that he died from a heart attack 1 1/2 hours after entering the hospital. Hospitals release information to reporters through a spokesman. You don't think reporters make these things up do you? A spokesman from the hospital went on record as saying he died from a heart attack.
