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What will liberals do when Iran gets a nuclear weapon and uses it to destroy Tel Aviv?

tsunami

Council Member
I think I know what they will do. They will throw up their hands and shrug and say "WE DOT WANT TO GO TO WAR WITH IRAN! SO WHAT IF THEY NUKED TEL AVIV?!! ITS NOT WORTH GOING TO WWWWAAARRRRR!" Then they will go behind closed doors and celebrate. Liberals are insane.

I mean, you really think liberals would support going to war with Iran if they nuked Tel Aviv?

But, liberals have guaranteed us that it will never happen and we should just take their good word for it.
 

Max R.

On the road
Supporting Member
they only have uranium, they don't have plutonium.
Uranium did a pretty good job on Hiroshima. I'm sure it would do an equally good job on New York or LA.

For those who think they need a missile or bomber to deliver it, don't forget that a nuke can be delivered in an ox cart or a boat.

 
I think I know what they will do. They will throw up their hands and shrug and say "WE DOT WANT TO GO TO WAR WITH IRAN! SO WHAT IF THEY NUKED TEL AVIV?!! ITS NOT WORTH GOING TO WWWWAAARRRRR!" Then they will go behind closed doors and celebrate. Liberals are insane.

I mean, you really think liberals would support going to war with Iran if they nuked Tel Aviv?

But, liberals have guaranteed us that it will never happen and we should just take their good word for it.
Oh why don't you just bomb the whole bloody world and be done with it eh? Then you would only have each other to worry about! And Americans are no danger to Americans are they? Noooo 'course they aren't
 
Uranium did a pretty good job on Hiroshima. I'm sure it would do an equally good job on New York or LA.

For those who think they need a missile or bomber to deliver it, don't forget that a nuke can be delivered in an ox cart or a boat.

But the second this happens, Iran is a parking lot. And the bombs that will hit them are each thousands of times more destructive than the first and only time a uranium bomb was used in war. After that event, we went to plutonium. As for the delivery system, try hiding a bomb in a cart. Going to need a lot of cabbage to hide that monster.
 

Max R.

On the road
Supporting Member
But the second this happens, Iran is a parking lot. And the bombs that will hit them are each thousands of times more destructive than the first and only time a uranium bomb was used in war. After that event, we went to plutonium. As for the delivery system, try hiding a bomb in a cart. Going to need a lot of cabbage to hide that monster.
How do you know it was Iran and not Pakistan, North Korea or just some radicals with loose nukes captured in a former Soviet satellite nation?

You might consider the strong concern that a nuke can be delivered in a freighter and sailed right into the harbor of a large US city.

For there really intelligent terrorist, all they have to do is put it aboard a South American cargo aircraft on the way to Toronto and detonate it at 40+ thousand feet over the Eastern seaboard. While the blast damage would kill some, the EMP would be catastrophic to every device which has an IC chip. Everything from computers to cars, Microwave ovens to cash registers. What do you think the economic effect of that would be?
 
How do you know it was Iran and not Pakistan, North Korea or just some radicals with loose nukes captured in a former Soviet satellite nation?

You might consider the strong concern that a nuke can be delivered in a freighter and sailed right into the harbor of a large US city.

For there really intelligent terrorist, all they have to do is put it aboard a South American cargo aircraft on the way to Toronto and detonate it at 40+ thousand feet over the Eastern seaboard. While the blast damage would kill some, the EMP would be catastrophic to every device which has an IC chip. Everything from computers to cars, Microwave ovens to cash registers. What do you think the economic effect of that would be?
They could put lasers on sharks too.
 
I think I know what they will do. They will throw up their hands and shrug and say "WE DOT WANT TO GO TO WAR WITH IRAN! SO WHAT IF THEY NUKED TEL AVIV?!! ITS NOT WORTH GOING TO WWWWAAARRRRR!" Then they will go behind closed doors and celebrate. Liberals are insane.

I mean, you really think liberals would support going to war with Iran if they nuked Tel Aviv?

But, liberals have guaranteed us that it will never happen and we should just take their good word for it.
First, they will rejoice, because the destruction of Israel and the deaths of all Jews has been a long time goal of the progreSSive left.

Then, they'll realize that Tel Aviv is the Israeli equivalent of San Francisco, the most liberal city in Israel.

Finally, they'll rejoice anyway, because for progreSSives, a dead Jew is a dead Jew. Just ask them...
 

Max R.

On the road
Supporting Member
No doubt many on the Left are tacit antisemites. OTOH, I think the reality of a city being nuked would make most of those on the Left quiver in their Uggs since Lefties are mostly city folk.
 
Look, if anyone really wanted to do damage to Murica, all the have to do is blow up the Glen Canyon dam on the Colorado River. It would take out the rest of the dams, kill hundreds of thousands and make LA, Vegas and Phoenix a third world state in about one hour.
 

Max R.

On the road
Supporting Member
Look, if anyone really wanted to do damage to Murica, all the have to do is blow up the Glen Canyon dam on the Colorado River. It would take out the rest of the dams, kill hundreds of thousands and make LA, Vegas and Phoenix a third world state in about one hour.
That would be one plan. The Islamic terrorists seem to have a hard-on for the NE, especially New York, so I'd expect something there.
 

EatTheRich

President
First, they will rejoice, because the destruction of Israel and the deaths of all Jews has been a long time goal of the progreSSive left.

Then, they'll realize that Tel Aviv is the Israeli equivalent of San Francisco, the most liberal city in Israel.

Finally, they'll rejoice anyway, because for progreSSives, a dead Jew is a dead Jew. Just ask them...
Yes, leftists from Karl Marx to Leon Trotsky, from Grigory Zinoviev to Emma Goldman, from Ethel Rosenberg to David Ben-Gurion, from Noam Chomsky to Jay Lovestone, have been clamoring for the death of all Jews.
 

Miguelito

Council Member
Lets see, liberals will blame Bush, Republicans, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and the Wall St Journal to name a few

They will snarl how Bush messed things up so badly, even the greatness and superior intelligence of Obama could not overcome the damage

The left will sneer how Obama did the best he could do given the hand he was dealt and if the Republicans would have backed them Iran would have accepted the deal. Iran would have given up their desire for domination of the Middle East, ceased their hate for Israel, and become a model nation for human rights

I can see them bellowing this as Obama screws up again and shows his superior incompetence
 

Boltlady

Mayor
Lets see, liberals will blame Bush, Republicans, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and the Wall St Journal to name a few

They will snarl how Bush messed things up so badly, even the greatness and superior intelligence of Obama could not overcome the damage

The left will sneer how Obama did the best he could do given the hand he was dealt and if the Republicans would have backed them Iran would have accepted the deal. Iran would have given up their desire for domination of the Middle East, ceased their hate for Israel, and become a model nation for human rights

I can see them bellowing this as Obama screws up again and shows his superior incompetence
You sure are an imaginative soul. If Iran had a desire for domination of the ME, why would they have gone for over 2 hundred years without attacking anybody? Do you think that they get somebody else to do their fighting for them the way Israel does?
 

Max R.

On the road
Supporting Member
You sure are an imaginative soul. If Iran had a desire for domination of the ME, why would they have gone for over 2 hundred years without attacking anybody? Do you think that they get somebody else to do their fighting for them the way Israel does?
Don't forget the Iran-Iraq War. http://www.history.com/topics/iran-iraq-war

Iran is the primary force fomenting terrorism in the ME. Specifically supporting Hamas, Hezbollah and Shi'a factions Iraq. If you are saying they haven't attacked anyone, you are wrong. If you are saying they haven't used conventional forces against another nation since their war with Iraq in the 1980s, then you are closer to being correct.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/tehran/axis/terror.html
If you drive Iran into the corner, Iran has the means to retaliate all it wants. ... Iran -- if it feels it's backed into the corner, it's at war again with the United States -- will resort to terrorism, because the people who were involved are still in Iran; they're free. They don't agree with the policies, [with] the way Iran's going now. They think there should be more attacks against Americans. Where they're going to be depends on how we treat them. ...


http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/irans-support-for-terrorism-worldwide
Over the past few years, Iran's state sponsorship of terrorism has increased dramatically to levels not seen since the late 1980s and early 1990s. Some of this is terrorism carried out by the regime's own operatives from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Qods Force, and some by the regime's closest militant ally, Hezbollah. Events in Syria today have further cemented this partnership, with dire consequences for regional and international security.

Even under the regime of President Rouhani, and even as Tehran engages in the P5+1 talks over its nuclear program, Iran continues to engage in these types of activities itself and sponsors the efforts of its partners. It does this because, time and again, it has found such activities both effective and financially and politically inexpensive. Moving forward, Washington and its allies -- within the P5+1 and beyond -- must find credible ways of communicating to Iran that continuing to engage in such activities will incur a heavy price. In the context of current events, that will be very difficult to do. Failure to do so, however, guarantees a far less stable region...


http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2013/224826.htm
To designate a country as a State Sponsor of Terrorism, the Secretary of State must determine that the government of such country has repeatedly provided support for acts of international terrorism. Once a country is designated, it remains a State Sponsor of Terrorism until the designation is rescinded in accordance with statutory criteria. A wide range of sanctions are imposed as a result of a State Sponsor of Terrorism designation, including:
  • A ban on arms-related exports and sales;
  • Controls over exports of dual-use items, requiring 30-day Congressional notification for goods or services that could significantly enhance the terrorist-list country’s military capability or ability to support terrorism;
  • Prohibitions on economic assistance; and
  • Imposition of miscellaneous financial and other restrictions.

This report provides a snapshot of events during 2013 relevant to countries designated as State Sponsors of Terrorism; it does not constitute a new announcement regarding such designations. More information on State Sponsor of Terrorism designations may be found online at http://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm.

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IRAN

Designated as a State Sponsor of Terrorism in 1984, Iran continued its terrorist-related activity, including support for Palestinian terrorist groups in Gaza, and for Hizballah. It has also increased its presence in Africa and attempted to smuggle arms to Houthi separatists in Yemen and Shia oppositionists in Bahrain. Iran used the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps-Qods Force (IRGC-QF) and its regional proxy groups to implement foreign policy goals, provide cover for intelligence operations, and create instability in the Middle East. The IRGC-QF is the regime’s primary mechanism for cultivating and supporting terrorists abroad.

Iran views Syria as a crucial causeway in its weapons supply route to Hizballah, its primary beneficiary. In 2013, Iran continued to provide arms, financing, training, and the facilitation of Iraqi Shia fighters to the Asad regime’s brutal crackdown, a crackdown that has resulted in the death of more than 100,000 civilians in Syria. Iran has publicly admitted sending members of the IRGC to Syria in an advisory role. There are reports indicating some of these troops are IRGC-QF members and that they have taken part in direct combat operations. In February, senior IRGC-QF commander Brigadier General Hassan Shateri was killed in or near Zabadani, Syria. This was the first publicly announced death of a senior Iranian military official in Syria. In November, IRGC-QF commander Mohammad Jamalizadeh Paghaleh was also killed in Aleppo, Syria. Subsequent Iranian media reports stated that Paghaleh was volunteering in Syria to defend the Sayyida Zainab mosque, which is located in Damascus. The location of Paghaleh’s death, over 200 miles away from the mosque he was reported to be protecting, demonstrated Iran’s intent to mask the operations of IRGC-QF forces in Syria.

Iran has historically provided weapons, training, and funding to Hamas and other Palestinian terrorist groups, including the Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ) and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC), although Hamas’s ties to Tehran have been strained due to the Syrian civil war. Since the end of the 2006 Israeli-Hizballah conflict, Iran has also assisted in rearming Hizballah, in direct violation of UNSCR 1701. Iran has provided hundreds of millions of dollars in support of Hizballah in Lebanon and has trained thousands of its fighters at camps in Iran. These trained fighters often use these skills in support of the Asad regime in Syria.

Despite its pledge to support Iraq’s stabilization, Iran trained, funded, and provided guidance to Iraqi Shia militant groups. The IRGC-QF, in concert with Hizballah, provided training outside of Iraq as well as advisors inside Iraq for Shia militants in the construction and use of sophisticated improvised explosive device technology and other advanced weaponry. Similar to Hizballah fighters, many of these trained Shia militants then use these skills to fight for the Asad regime in Syria, often at the behest of Iran.

On January 23, 2013, Yemeni authorities seized an Iranian dhow, the Jihan, off the coast of Yemen. The dhow was carrying sophisticated Chinese antiaircraft missiles, C-4 explosives, rocket-propelled grenades, and a number of other weapons and explosives. The shipment of lethal aid was likely headed to Houthi separatists in Northern Yemen. Iran actively supports members of the Houthi movement, including activities intended to build military capabilities, which could pose a greater threat to security and stability in Yemen and the surrounding region.

In late April 2013, the Government of Bosnia declared two Iranian diplomats, Jadidi Sohrab and Hamzeh Dolab Ahmad, persona non grata after Israeli intelligence reported they were members of Iran’s Ministry of Intelligence and Security. One of the two men had been spotted in India, Georgia, and Thailand, all of which were sites of a simultaneous bombing campaign in February 2012, according to Israeli intelligence. Both diplomats were subsequently expelled from Bosnia.

On December 29, 2013, the Bahraini Coast Guard interdicted a speedboat filled with weapons and explosives that was likely bound for Shia oppositionists in Bahrain, specifically the 14 February Youth Coalition (14 FYC). Bahraini authorities accused the IRGC-QF of providing opposition militants with explosives training in order to carry out attacks in Bahrain. The interdiction led to the discovery of two weapons and explosives cache sites in Bahrain, the dismantling of a car bomb, and the arrest of 15 Bahraini nationals.

Iran remained unwilling to bring to justice senior al-Qa’ida (AQ) members it continued to detain, and refused to publicly identify those senior members in its custody. Iran allowed AQ facilitators Muhsin al-Fadhli and Adel Radi Saqr al-Wahabi al-Harbi to operate a core facilitation pipeline through Iran, enabling AQ to move funds and fighters to South Asia and also to Syria. Al-Fadhli is a veteran AQ operative who has been active for years. Al-Fadhli began working with the Iran-based AQ facilitation network in 2009 and was later arrested by Iranian authorities. He was released in 2011 and assumed leadership of the Iran-based AQ facilitation network.

Iran remains a state of proliferation concern. Despite multiple UNSCRs requiring Iran to suspend its sensitive nuclear proliferation activities, Iran continued to violate its international obligations regarding its nuclear program. For further information, see the Report to Congress on Iran-related Multilateral Sanctions Regime Efforts (November 2013), and the Report on the Status of Bilateral and Multilateral Efforts Aimed at Curtailing the Pursuit of Iran of Nuclear Weapons Technology (September 2012).

 

Boltlady

Mayor
First, it was Iraq that attacked Iran, not the other way around. They do tend to fight back when attacked.

As to us labeling different countries as state sponsors of terrorism, that's like Israel calling everybody "anti-Semitic". It's a tool that supposedly gives us the right to impose sanctions on them to weaken them for our further purposes.

As far as Hamas and Hezbollah being declared terrorist groups, that's Israel's doing. Both of those groups have their military factions and their political factions. Their military factions are there to protect their people against the terrorist acts of Israel which occur on a pretty regular basis.

We need to stay out of the whole damn thing and concentrate on cleaning up our own country. Our only connection should be to trade.

Iran-Iraq War (1980-1988)
 

Max R.

On the road
Supporting Member
First, it was Iraq that attacked Iran, not the other way around. They do tend to fight back when attacked.

As to us labeling different countries as state sponsors of terrorism, that's like Israel calling everybody "anti-Semitic". It's a tool that supposedly gives us the right to impose sanctions on them to weaken them for our further purposes.

As far as Hamas and Hezbollah being declared terrorist groups, that's Israel's doing. Both of those groups have their military factions and their political factions. Their military factions are there to protect their people against the terrorist acts of Israel which occur on a pretty regular basis.

We need to stay out of the whole damn thing and concentrate on cleaning up our own country. Our only connection should be to trade.

Iran-Iraq War (1980-1988)
Do you speak Farsi? Do you have relatives in Iran? I'm guessing you do to both those questions. You can use "we" and "us" as much as you like, dear, but you are clearly defending Iran against any and all complaints.

Your own link pointed out the history of the Iran-Iraq war was as clear nor was Iran as pure as you claim it is.

Your double-whammy aspersions on Israel is another clue you are pro-Iranian as is your defense of both Hamas and Hezbollah. If you are even in the US, I'm guessing you're on some watch list. If not, maybe this will help.

#Iranian agent #assassination #terrorism #sabotage
 

Boltlady

Mayor
Do you speak Farsi? Do you have relatives in Iran? I'm guessing you do to both those questions. You can use "we" and "us" as much as you like, dear, but you are clearly defending Iran against any and all complaints.

Your own link pointed out the history of the Iran-Iraq war was as clear nor was Iran as pure as you claim it is.

Your double-whammy aspersions on Israel is another clue you are pro-Iranian as is your defense of both Hamas and Hezbollah. If you are even in the US, I'm guessing you're on some watch list. If not, maybe this will help.

#Iranian agent #assassination #terrorism #sabotage
No, I don't speak Farsi.
Have no Iranian relatives in or out of Iran.
Have not defended Iran against any and all complaints, only those with no facts to back them up.
The link clearly stated that Iraq started the war.
Israel's atrocities are a matter of record.
Hamas and Hezbollah haven't been involved in anywhere near the number of terrorist activities that Israel has.
I am in the US.
I don't do Twitter or Facebook.
 

Max R.

On the road
Supporting Member
No, I don't speak Farsi.
Have no Iranian relatives in or out of Iran.
Have not defended Iran against any and all complaints, only those with no facts to back them up.
The link clearly stated that Iraq started the war.
Israel's atrocities are a matter of record.
Hamas and Hezbollah haven't been involved in anywhere near the number of terrorist activities that Israel has.
I am in the US.
I don't do Twitter or Facebook.
Thanks for the reply, but your previous posts seem to be very pro-Iran and anti-US and anti-Israel.
 
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