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Monet meets Renoir

Wahbooz

Governor
The impressionists of today utilize the same techniques the original impressionists did.
Agreed. Which to me says there is no 'improvement' on a previous artists contributions. No more than it is fair to say Pho, or Banh Mi, is better in Hanoi or Ho Chi Minh City. Both are different regions, and tastes vary with the region.

There is much to be said for 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder', and it is the artist who 'translates' what he beheld into a work of art.
 
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Wahbooz

Governor
"i may not know art,,but i know what i like"

art, like beauty is subjective...
you can tell someone why they should like a painting, and point out all your reasons,,but that wont make it more appealing to someone who doesnt share your opinion.
Or your tastes.
 

Wahbooz

Governor
tastes,,like beauty and art, are subjective...there is no right or wrong answer..just a different one..

Exactly. If that was not the case, Grandma Moses would not have anyone who appreciated her efforts.
 

Craig

Senator
Supporting Member
Agreed. Which to me says there is no 'improvement' on a previous artists contributions. No more than it is fair to say Pho, or Banh Mi, is better in Hanoi or Ho Chi Minh City. Both are different regions, and tastes vary with the region.

There is much to be said for 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder', and it is the artist who 'translates' what he beheld into a work of art.
I've observed a few painters improve over the years. Honing, practicing...attending classes and workshops with other painters...just to better understand and portray a splash of light. I am not a fan of the "still life", yet I can appreciate one that really captures the scene, which includes light, dark, shadows and nuances of color. Seeing the color is the true mystery and magic. We say..."the sky is blue"...they say...it's white, gray, purple, red...and oh yeah...maybe some blue too.

I painted an orange sky once, in 3rd grade...and the art teacher told me skies are not orange...they are blue. I knew damn well they were orange, as I had seen one just the night before. I know I said something as I have a slight recall of the negative aftermath. I never did embrace art as a creative force, my figures never advanced. I am an "appreciative" artist. I love the arts...painting, music, sculpture...and have been fortunate enough to wander through a number of the world's great museums to further appreciate the talents of the creative sort.

I love the impressionists and the post impressionists. Their sense of color and movement is simply spectacular. Caillebotte's Les Raboteurs de Parquet shines...



How does he get the floors to shine so?





Still...there is one painting, much later than the impressionists and posts... that speaks to me more than any other. Hopper's Nighthawks, a tale of solitude in the middle of a city.

 

Wahbooz

Governor
I've observed a few painters improve over the years. Honing, practicing...attending classes and workshops with other painters...just to better understand and portray a splash of light. I am not a fan of the "still life", yet I can appreciate one that really captures the scene, which includes light, dark, shadows and nuances of color. Seeing the color is the true mystery and magic. We say..."the sky is blue"...they say...it's white, gray, purple, red...and oh yeah...maybe some blue too.

I painted an orange sky once, in 3rd grade...and the art teacher told me skies are not orange...they are blue. I knew damn well they were orange, as I had seen one just the night before. I know I said something as I have a slight recall of the negative aftermath. I never did embrace art as a creative force, my figures never advanced. I am an "appreciative" artist. I love the arts...painting, music, sculpture...and have been fortunate enough to wander through a number of the world's great museums to further appreciate the talents of the creative sort.

I love the impressionists and the post impressionists. Their sense of color and movement is simply spectacular. Caillebotte's Les Raboteurs de Parquet shines...



How does he get the floors to shine so?





Still...there is one painting, much later than the impressionists and posts... that speaks to me more than any other. Hopper's Nighthawks, a tale of solitude in the middle of a city.

I can't argue with the fact that an artist can improve on his own technique, because he can with guidance and practice. But to say another artist comes along and improves upon one of the masters techniques is to me a bit far reaching. Even within the impressionist movement there were artists whose vision different from others, and this is due in a large part to the artists interpretation of what he/she sees in a subject. Tow people can see the same vista and come away with a different impression.

The shine? Toning, a mixture of various shades. When I was a kid, my boss's boyfriend was a realist, and he could make colors do the most amazing things. He did a picture of me once, and he did it all with shades. No outline, no drawing in my eyes, mouth, or anything else. He simply used various shades of color to paint me. I couldn't believe it, he was amazing. I wanted him to take me under his wing, but unfortunately he died way too soon.
 

Fast Eddy

Mayor
I often wonder why such difference in prices on street artists and the masters, Many times I see the street artist as better. First to do it and dead I guess.
A had a brother in-law that starved as an artist, died in a motorcycle accident and now I couldn't afford the painting I have if I was to buy them. death sure adds value.
 

ya-ta-hey

Mayor
You're only bright if you hold a candle in front of a mirror. Don't you wish you could actually contribute something sometime?
Mr. Wahbooz,

Why the continual ad hominem? Are you so unsure of your positions and have such low self esteme you can come up with anything else?.

My heart bleeds for you, my friend. But believe me, you may see me as so much more than you, but I believe you have talents you should be proud of.

I have faith in you, my friend.
 

Wahbooz

Governor
Mr. Wahbooz,

Why the continual ad hominem? Are you so unsure of your positions and have such low self esteme you can come up with anything else?.

My heart bleeds for you, my friend. But believe me, you may see me as so much more than you, but I believe you have talents you should be proud of.

I have faith in you, my friend.
Hahaha, you really are desperate for attention aren't you? I may see you as so much more than me? You really do have to be joking. By the way, esteme is actually spelled esteem, if you're so desperate in your attempt to belittle others and build your own 'esteme'.

I'm tired of even reading your ridiculous comments, so I'll just close with what I already said.

Try sometime to actually contribute to a conversation, instead of your vain attempts to hijack. Bye bye.
 

ya-ta-hey

Mayor
Hahaha, you really are desperate for attention aren't you? I may see you as so much more than me? You really do have to be joking. By the way, esteme is actually spelled esteem, if you're so desperate in your attempt to belittle others and build your own 'esteme'.

I'm tired of even reading your ridiculous comments, so I'll just close with what I already said.

Try sometime to actually contribute to a conversation, instead of your vain attempts to hijack. Bye bye.
Mr.Wahbooz,

Hmmmm, I'm desperate for attention, yet you keep posting to me over what you consider rediculous comments.

Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

LOL, you so silly.
 

Wahbooz

Governor
Mr.Wahbooz,

Hmmmm, I'm desperate for attention, yet you keep posting to me over what you consider rediculous comments.

Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

LOL, you so silly.

Oh snookums, you came back. Everybody ignoring you lately, and you're desperate for more attention? Poor baby.
 

ya-ta-hey

Mayor
Oh snookums, you came back. Everybody ignoring you lately, and you're desperate for more attention? Poor baby.
Mr. Wahbooz,

Me thinks the lady doth protest to much again. Hmmm, who did I just hear say:

"I'm tired of even reading your ridiculous comments, so I'll just close with what I already said."

You just can't stay away from me, like a moth to a flame, wot?
 

Wahbooz

Governor
Mr. Wahbooz,

Me thinks the lady doth protest to much again. Hmmm, who did I just hear say:

"I'm tired of even reading your ridiculous comments, so I'll just close with what I already said."

You just can't stay away from me, like a moth to a flame, wot?
Why do you continue to protest, 'lady'?
 

ya-ta-hey

Mayor
Why do you continue to protest, 'lady'?
Mr. Wahbooz,

I thought my ears were burning. You really can't go more than one day without trying to get my attention.

Ah, as unoriginal as your response was, imitation is the greatest form of flattery, and indeed, you do flatter me too much.
 

Wahbooz

Governor
Like a little Pekinese nipping at your heels. And this just proves others will be hit for 'stalking' or making posts without content, and others get away with it ad infinitum.

So boring these thread hijackers.
 
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