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Is what's happening in Baltimore part of a new norm?

connieb

Senator
I think there is room for improvement. Which is not to say the policing system is rife with abuse and harassment...i think these instances few and far between in the context of the whole.

It's the perception played about that the entirety of a police force, or all police are racist thugs bent on injuring and abusing.

I actually think it is more along the lines of...yes there are these instances...yes they need to be addressed and the racially motivated removed and prosecuted. I also think that criminal elements...such as those causing the violence in Baltimore...cannot be allow to act as they please.

They should be disabused of their notion ..by the strictest measure of law.

I don't think that the majority are bent on "abusing and injuring"

However, I think that there is a vast discrepancy between the kind of tactics police are trained to use. And, what individuals think is "excessive force". And, I think that it leads to a lot of mistrust of police tactics because people perceive that what are trained procedures - are abusive. Even when they are not intended to necessarily be "abusive". Perhaps it would be good to have a few average civilians go through training - and be made aware of the how and why they are trained to be the way they are.

The sad reality is - that when cops let down thier guards they end up injured or killed. When they go into that domestic with the intention of trying to be nice and to calm things down - they are shot unsuspectedly. When they go to confront that crazed loon spouting gibberish, and are just trying to be nice, is when they are shot or stabbed.

So, they are trained to never ever ever let their guard down. THAT is how they are hurt, and how it happens they don't go home. I think that perhaps it would be useful for people to put themselves in the shoes of an officer for a while. It may change their perception of what is necessary versus excessive force.
 
A top to bottom review of all police forces. Investigations to weed out the racists. Enhanced recruitment of minority police forces. Harsh prosecution of the racists. Better training for all police as to race issues and restraint.

What we tend to have instead is a blue wall of obstruction, rampant racism within police departments, kneejerk right wing defense of most instances of police violence against blacks, etc.
This is the sort of gobbledygook you get from people who are unaware that most modern police forces (at least in big cities) have

  • Standing permanent citizen advisory committee s
  • City council review of hiring, staffing levels and street tactics
  • mayoral oversight of the police chief like every other direct report function.
The only reason to bring in an outside force to conduct a top to bottom review is if your mayor, city council and citizens advisory board are incompetent.
 

Fast Eddy

Mayor
The first thing that should be done is an investigation as to who funded bringing in the outside agitators. Call them to court and make them explain their actions, they incited a riot.
The bloods and cripts should be put on a terrorist list and the police should deal with them as such.
The Nation of Islam has no business supporting this. Make them explain and if they can't they should be put on the terrorist list and be banned from this country.

It should be announced that this date, all future riots will be met with force and real bullets. loots will be shot if seen doing so, and then do it.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
A top to bottom review of all police forces. Investigations to weed out the racists. Enhanced recruitment of minority police forces. Harsh prosecution of the racists. Better training for all police as to race issues and restraint.

What we tend to have instead is a blue wall of obstruction, rampant racism within police departments, kneejerk right wing defense of most instances of police violence against blacks, etc.
so the racist criminals you didn't even mention..........who you going to call when attacked, criminals..........
 

Sunset Rose

Mayor
Supporting Member
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/042715-749842-stephanie-rawlings-blake-calls-for-space-for-those-who-destroy.htm

Rioting, destruction, looting, burning, violence, injury...

What's all over the news is disturbing, as is the commentary (of the mayor of the city)

Should we expect this outcome to become routine? and what should be done about it?


I support stronger tactics to secure the peace, quell violence, and capture and prosecute the perpetrators.
I support stronger tactics to make the police stop killing Black men like they are in open season.
 

Sunset Rose

Mayor
Supporting Member
It could be a long, hot summer.

Rioting is obviously inexcusable, but we can expect much more of it if society does not seriously address the policing issues and their racial component.
I agree Bugsy. It seems like we hear these stories every week now. :(
 

Mr. Friscus

Governor
I support stronger tactics to make the police stop killing Black men like they are in open season.
Prove killing of black men is at all increasing, or is any sort of crisis.

Nobody has. Not the activists, not Sharpton, not Jackson, not Obama, not Holder, not the media, not American liberals...

Yet, they all parrot the notion that blacks are being mowed down every day. Far, far more white people die in the hands of police, and your ilk doesn't seem to care. It's rather disturbing to see deaths being treated so differently based on race, even if it's an important issue to discuss overall.
 

Sunset Rose

Mayor
Supporting Member
Prove killing of black men is at all increasing, or is any sort of crisis.

Nobody has. Not the activists, not Sharpton, not Jackson, not Obama, not Holder, not the media, not American liberals...

Yet, they all parrot the notion that blacks are being mowed down every day. Far, far more white people die in the hands of police, and your ilk doesn't seem to care. It's rather disturbing to see deaths being treated so differently based on race, even if it's an important issue to discuss overall.
I care about Whites being killed by police too. "Prove killing of Black men is at all increasing, or is any sort of crisis". Do you watch the news?
 
I support stronger tactics to make the police stop killing Black men like they are in open season.
That means not ceding to the government more and more power over people, and not letting them take away peoples' civil rights, such as self-defense. Are you willing to commit to that?
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
I support stronger tactics to make the police stop killing Black men like they are in open season.
like those murdered in any inner city USA____________
of course those blacks are murdered by blacks
what difference does it make
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
I agree Bugsy. It seems like we hear these stories every week now. :(
well, if Brown hadn't jacked up the cop in his cop car, there is one we wouldn't have heard about.......and if Trayvon's cow of a girlfriend hadn't told him to get that cracker, there went another story not heard about.........need more examples_________?
crime must be on the rise

http://crimeinchicago.blogspot.com/
that's just ONE inner city
 
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SW48

Administrator
Staff member
Supporting Member
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/042715-749842-stephanie-rawlings-blake-calls-for-space-for-those-who-destroy.htm

Rioting, destruction, looting, burning, violence, injury...

What's all over the news is disturbing, as is the commentary (of the mayor of the city)

Should we expect this outcome to become routine? and what should be done about it?


I support stronger tactics to secure the peace, quell violence, and capture and prosecute the perpetrators.
The news should only talk about the rioters and what happens when they get caught.

The fact police stood and watched the riots I am afraid will lead to more and bolder rioters in the future.
 

PhilFish

Administrator
Staff member
The news should only talk about the rioters and what happens when they get caught.

The fact police stood and watched the riots I am afraid will lead to more and bolder rioters in the future.

that, with support of the mayor... does indeed set the stage for future, bigger.riots..
 

connieb

Senator
I care about Whites being killed by police too. "Prove killing of Black men is at all increasing, or is any sort of crisis". Do you watch the news?
Just because we hear of very incident now - thanks the 24/7 news cycle that we have going on does not mean anything is increasing. It just means that our perception of the "crisis" has been distorted by the media. People like that are the same ones that that think a stranger is lurking around every corner to kidnap their kids. The reality is - the incidents have been hyped. There are no more of the, they are not happening more frequently.

Don't allow yourself to be used by the agenda pimping media.
 

Sunset Rose

Mayor
Supporting Member
Just because we hear of very incident now - thanks the 24/7 news cycle that we have going on does not mean anything is increasing. It just means that our perception of the "crisis" has been distorted by the media. People like that are the same ones that that think a stranger is lurking around every corner to kidnap their kids. The reality is - the incidents have been hyped. There are no more of the, they are not happening more frequently.

Don't allow yourself to be used by the agenda pimping media.
Another reason we are seeing more police brutality is because almost everybody has video cameras on their cell phones. It's harder to kill folks and get away with it easily.
 

connieb

Senator
Another reason we are seeing more police brutality is because almost everybody has video cameras on their cell phones. It's harder to kill folks and get away with it easily.
That is why we are SEEING more but it does not mean there IS more.. Big difference.
 
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