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Wahbooz · Jul 26, 2015

MaryAnne said:
Jen, I am sorry. You just killed your own argument by putting liberals in a pack.

Please think about this. I am a Conservative Democrat who can find agreement with both sides.

I can tell any one I am not thrilled with Ted Cruz, but when he exposed his own Leader for lying to him,then went after bought and sold Career Politicians who were owned by lobbyists on both sides I agreed with him 100%.

I think it is time to get over our petty quarrels, blaming each other and start blaming those we put if office.

Who could imagine Ted Cruz would do that if we would only shut up and listen?

MA, there's money to be made in keeping people believing one party or the other is evil. That's all I'll say about that.

Jen · Jul 26, 2015

Wahbooz said:
MA, there's money to be made in keeping people believing one party or the other is evil. That's all I'll say about that.

I doubt if many people believe that one party is good and the other is evil. I see evil in both Republican and Democratic Parties. I don't want to be a part of either of them.

MaryAnne was wrong to say I put all Liberals in a pack. I did not do that and I'm sorry she didn't get it right. My posting in the negative has been about Leftists = Marxists. Liberals are not Marxists. The Democratic Party has both groups at the moment but the Marxists seem to be attempting to steamroll the party. Liberals like MaryAnne, Jets, and some others here are assuredly not included when I talk about Leftists. Leftists are a very specific group of Democrats (and no doubt Independents). Their posts are full of hate and it is not difficult to see who they are.

Again....... MaryAnne got it wrong when she claimed I put all Liberals in a pack. I posted to her and corrected her. I don't know for sure who or what you were referring to when you posted to her, but since it was a response to the post where she got it wrong about me.......... I am answering.

Wahbooz · Jul 26, 2015

Jen said:
I doubt if many people believe that one party is good and the other is evil. I see evil in both Republican and Democratic Parties. I don't want to be a part of either of them.

MaryAnne was wrong to say I put all Liberals in a pack. I did not do that and I'm sorry she didn't get it right. My posting in the negative has been about Leftists = Marxists. Liberals are not Marxists. The Democratic Party has both groups at the moment but the Marxists seem to be attempting to steamroll the party. Liberals like MaryAnne, Jets, and some others here are assuredly not included when I talk about Leftists. Leftists are a very specific group of Democrats (and no doubt Independents). Their posts are full of hate and it is not difficult to see who they are.

Again....... MaryAnne got it wrong when she claimed I put all Liberals in a pack. I posted to her and corrected her. I don't know for sure who or what you were referring to when you posted to her, but since it was a response to the post where she got it wrong about me.......... I am answering.

I was referring to anyone who 'gins up the hate' from either side of the 'aisle'. Politician, talking head, and even posters here; like the one on the left who 'chastised' me for posting to you a couple of years ago, and I had to tell him or her no one tells me who I can and can not talk to. Look around, Jen, there are those here who post simply to vent hatred.

Jen · Jul 26, 2015

Wahbooz said:
I was referring to anyone who 'gins up the hate' from either side of the 'aisle'. Politician, talking head, and even posters here; like the one on the left who 'chastised' me for posting to you a couple of years ago, and I had to tell him or her no one tells me who I can and can not talk to. Look around, Jen, there are those here who post simply to vent hatred.

Yes. I see it Wahbooz. And I'm glad you still post to me. Nobody will tell me not to post to you either. I do what I wish. But we know that. I just wanted to make sure you understood where I was coming from and I should have realized you would.

MaryAnne · Jul 27, 2015

Jen said:
I didn't post what I did in the hopes that you would respond to me in any way. I just hope for constant introspection as you moderate. I'm not complaining about your moderation so far, but I do hope it doesn't at some point go to the extreme you expressed in this thread. I do understand the frustration of the moderator. But as a poster I also understand the importance of allowing the board to just be what it is unless or until things are out of hand and have to be touched by a moderator. Lots of fine lines I know...

MaryAnne said:
Do you read your posts before posting,Jen?

You know I like,even admire you as a Person, but you are quite naive about reading your own posts contents.

That was quite a tirade.

Jen said:
If you will read my post again, MaryAnne, you will see that I did not put LIberals in a pack. Liberals are okay, I said. I am moderate enough to side with Classic Liberals like you some of the time. But the portion of Libs who are "Leftists" are intolerant haters. I stand by that. When I say Leftists, I am excluding moderate Liberals from the hater group by using that term.

I repeat what I posted. You start out by being fair and nuanced.

Then the next thing you do is go into a tirade about Leftists. You kill your own arguments. You may not see that,others do.

Every one here has fallen into a pattern of being against the same posters. It is an old,stale argument. That is why new posters seldom stay. It is the same thing,over and over.

MaryAnne · Jul 27, 2015

Jen said:
Yes. I read my posts.
Call it what you like............I stand by it.
Leftists have separated themselves from Liberalism and are haters of everything that doesn't march in lockstep with them. Just look at the posts. You can easily tell who is a Liberal and who is a Leftist. There are few Liberals left, sadly, but I believe you are one of them.

That is a made up fallacy. Most Liberals I know are pretty opened minded.

The thing is, the young are that way,too. And that is the future of the Country. The old closed minded are dying off.

Also the Evangelical Christians are going the same way. I have found plenty of Churches that are growing in numbers. I have been visiting several and am pleased to say I am enjoying each one.

They are keeping up with the times,are welcoming all. Taking care of the weakest. What a great feeling.

We are not here to condemn those who do not agree with us. We are here to help others.

MaryAnne · Jul 27, 2015

Wahbooz said:
I was referring to anyone who 'gins up the hate' from either side of the 'aisle'. Politician, talking head, and even posters here; like the one on the left who 'chastised' me for posting to you a couple of years ago, and I had to tell him or her no one tells me who I can and can not talk to. Look around, Jen, there are those here who post simply to vent hatred.

And they are sad,indeed. But there are many boards on the net.

Jen · Jul 27, 2015

MaryAnne said:
That is a made up fallacy. Most Liberals I know are pretty opened minded.

The thing is, the young are that way,too. And that is the future of the Country. The old closed minded are dying off.

Also the Evangelical Christians are going the same way. I have found plenty of Churches that are growing in numbers. I have been visiting several and am pleased to say I am pleased to say I am enjoying each one.

They are keeping up with the times,are welcoming all. Taking care of the weakest. What a great feeling.

We are not here to condemn those who do not agree with us. We are here to help others.

You are living in a fantasy world with that but that's okay.
Love ya, MaryAnne.

The Sage of Main Street · Jul 27, 2015

BobbyT said:
People who say things like "Leftists are haters" pretty much slot themselves - and it isn't into a "centrist" slot.

Taking Seriously a Puppet Show Full of Right- or Left-Handed Pinocchios

But it should be centrist, which itself should be entirely self-created and not "halfway with this, halfway with that" nonsense. Left and Right are imaginary and hypocritical ideologies created by the people in power as a Divide and Conquer tactic. Most of the accepted ideas today are as silly as proposing that ten-year-olds should vote and be able to get a driver's license.

MaryAnne · Jul 27, 2015

The Sage of Main Street said:
Taking Seriously a Puppet Show Full of Right- or Left-Handed Pinocchios

But it should be centrist, which itself should be entirely self-created and not "halfway with this, halfway with that" nonsense. Left and Right are imaginary and hypocritical ideologies created by the people in power as a Divide and Conquer tactic. Most of the accepted ideas today are as silly as proposing that ten-year-olds should vote and be able to get a driver's license.

There are things I have always agreed with on the right as I am very conservative.
But the Republican Party today has too many who are just plain nuts. Not all, but the nuts are winning right now. The party will eventually figure that out, but not in my life time.

Jim Wright,former Speaker of the House can not get a card to vote. He was denied. That is how far this denying people the vote has gone.

I vote absentee here with just the last 4 digits of mt SS. Should be that easy for every one that wants to vote.

MaryAnne · Jul 27, 2015

Jen said:
You are living in a fantasy world with that but that's okay.
Love ya, MaryAnne.

Since you are giving me all these disagree marks, Jen. Here is one in return, But carry on.

Jen · Jul 27, 2015

MaryAnne said:
Since you are giving me all these disagree marks, Jen. Here is one in return, But carry on.

We disagree, MaryAnne. It's okay to disagree. You lectured me on how I made my post. I like the way my post read............. and I didn't want to yell at you.........so I just disagreed. It's not a negative thing despite the big red X. Sorry I offended you.

Wahbooz · Jul 27, 2015

MaryAnne said:
And they are sad,indeed. But there are many boards on the net.

Yes, and many of them have their own haters, Maryanne. When I just came here, in the address I saw "libass brainwashing", as if the far right doesn't brainwash; but then there's a difference isn't there.

MaryAnne · Jul 28, 2015

Jen said:
We disagree, MaryAnne. It's okay to disagree. You lectured me on how I made my post. I like the way my post read............. and I didn't want to yell at you.........so I just disagreed. It's not a negative thing despite the big red X. Sorry I offended you.

I am not offended. Once I leave this board it is out of my mind. I think disagree marks are funny.

BTW, I think I have found a new Church. Methodist. One I went to long ago. Same senior Pastor, attendence increased at least ten times over. Built new Church because of increased attendance. Quite a distance but the drive is pleasant.

I am much happier.

MaryAnne · Jul 28, 2015

Wahbooz said:
Yes, and many of them have their own haters, Maryanne. When I just came here, in the address I saw "libass brainwashing", as if the far right doesn't brainwash; but then there's a difference isn't there.

Well, I still post with Red Cloud. One of my all time favorites.

Jen · Jul 28, 2015

MaryAnne said:
I am not offended. Once I leave this board it is out of my mind. I think disagree marks are funny.

BTW, I think I have found a new Church. Methodist. One I went to long ago. Same senior Pastor, attendence increased at least ten times over. Built new Church because of increased attendance. Quite a distance but the drive is pleasant.

I am much happier.

Enjoy the church and keep expectations low. Methodists are generally easy to deal with so it should be good. I'm glad for you.

Wahbooz · Jul 28, 2015

MaryAnne said:
Well, I still post with Red Cloud. One of my all time favorites.

I haven't seen that one in a long time.

NinaS · Aug 4, 2015

Jen said:
Leftism seeks to ban anything they disagree with.
We lost negative ratings because it offended Leftists here to receive them. Conservatives didn't care. Leftists got them removed.
Now, Leftists want certain (and a growing list of) words banned.

WTF?
Yes. "F".

When so-called "conservatives" went down the forum hitting their insult buttons at the rate of 2 or 3 a minute, OBVIOUSLY without reading the post...only doing it because they didn't like who was posting it, and filling up other's alerts with their nonsense, then they were asking for them to be removed. And I saw who were the ones who complained about them being removed...you were one of the first cons to bitch about it. Tough shit. Do you really think that any liberal here gave a rat's ass that Mikie and Dawg and their groupies were insulting them? It just got old sorting through our alerts AND posting in a forum with whiny 6 yr olds who used the "Na Na Na" buttons to begin with.

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