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What would it take for Marshall Law to be declared in the

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But what would it take to excuse its use?
Assuming you mean like for rational citizens, I'd say an event like a large meteor strike, at a magnitude that would be a global concern. There are likely other scenarios I may think of and add.

I believe the problem is a list thought to be valid prior to especially the Bush/Obama years would have to be gone through and many reasons deleted due to too high and strong potential of abuse by politicians. While Obama ran against things like the Patriot Act, he's shown he's Bush on steroids with regards to civil rights and other important issues.
 
Assuming you mean like for rational citizens, I'd say an event like a large meteor strike, at a magnitude that would be a global concern. There are likely other scenarios I may think of and add.

I believe the problem is a list thought to be valid prior to especially the Bush/Obama years would have to be gone through and many reasons deleted due to too high and strong potential of abuse by politicians. While Obama ran against things like the Patriot Act, he's shown he's Bush on steroids with regards to civil rights and other important issues.

That's what I mean, what would it take on a social, in country, level not from any outside force? I've been thinking about that for here in Europe too - the plans are always there, there are plans for every contingency.
 
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And what could take such a hold on so many people so as to rise up out of their arm chairs?
I know how to get around 40% of Americans out of their arm chairs- take away their food stamps, section 8 housing and earned income credit welfare subsidies. As far as normal, productive Americans, that's a tough one. We've become far too docile.
 

Boca

Governor
But what would it take to excuse its use?
That would depend on who's doin' the excusin' of course. If it were the people it would take something catastrophic as Thinker said. If it were a despot hell bent on fundamentally transforming the country to his liking while he still has time it wouldn't take much. In that case an excuse could quite easily be orchestrated.
 
D

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That's what I mean, what would it take on a social, in country, level not from any outside force? I've been thinking about that for here in Europe too - the plans are always there, there are plans for every contingency.
Outside force invasion on some large scale with serious downside potential for the whole country. Good addition.
 
I know how to get around 40% of Americans out of their arm chairs- take away their food stamps, section 8 housing and earned income credit welfare subsidies. As far as normal, productive Americans, that's a tough one. We've become far too docile.
Yup, here too ---
 

Craig

Senator
Supporting Member
And what could take such a hold on so many people so as to rise up out of their arm chairs?
The election of Donald Trump?

The same things that always have caused such great unrest.


We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


Failure to deal with our goals in any realistic manner. Lack of justice, failure to maintain domestic tranquility, loss of the general welfare and losses of liberty, which is dancing with the lack of justice.

Tremendous inequality, not of outcome, but of choice and of possibility.

Our courts hand down absurd rulings, we suffer from obesity and diabetes and other health issues, folks are being gunned down in cold blood on both sides, authority and anti-authority, and the fabric of our society is raveling. But our society seems to have always lived on the edge, often threatening to leap into the abyss...as it unravels into separate strands of fabric instead of the beautiful, but chaotic, quilt the last 250 years have brought us.
 

Boltlady

Mayor
The election of Donald Trump?

The same things that always have caused such great unrest.


We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


Failure to deal with our goals in any realistic manner. Lack of justice, failure to maintain domestic tranquility, loss of the general welfare and losses of liberty, which is dancing with the lack of justice.

Tremendous inequality, not of outcome, but of choice and of possibility.

Our courts hand down absurd rulings, we suffer from obesity and diabetes and other health issues, folks are being gunned down in cold blood on both sides, authority and anti-authority, and the fabric of our society is raveling. But our society seems to have always lived on the edge, often threatening to leap into the abyss...as it unravels into separate strands of fabric instead of the beautiful, but chaotic, quilt the last 250 years have brought us.
Since we already have so much of that in play, I guess it could be most any time now.
 
A massive race war, which is exactly what libs/dems are working furiously to achieve...

I fear something like this too Barbella, though as you know I think all most all of the publicized shootings and what knots are fake, I even doubt the Zimmerman case as being true now also, I think you are being set up.

Same in Europe only a little differently --- they have had to ship in the catalyst to divide us as immigrants.
 
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Since we already have so much of that in play, I guess it could be most any time now.
The other thing which seems to be 'in the agenda' apart from 'lone mad men' 'black vs white' is that society is being turned against the Police Force, rightly or wrongly, which only leaves the Army.

ps I know you have your doubts about the London riots, but I know too many people who were caught up in them as I know from the street what set it off to doubt them ---- But I begin to wonder if the boy was actually shot by the Police for quite a few reasons, not least info on the actual Copper who was supposed to have done the shooting coming my way, making it highly unlikely that he would have acted as he was supposed to have done ( he was very highly trained ) --- but so, whether the incident which sparked the riots or not actually happened the riots did. The Police let them run their course in the less wealthy areas and just protected the money --- What if such as that kicked off in the States? And what if snipers were added to the mix as in The 'so called' Arab Spring.
 
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Boltlady

Mayor
Assuming you mean like for rational citizens, I'd say an event like a large meteor strike, at a magnitude that would be a global concern. There are likely other scenarios I may think of and add.

I believe the problem is a list thought to be valid prior to especially the Bush/Obama years would have to be gone through and many reasons deleted due to too high and strong potential of abuse by politicians. While Obama ran against things like the Patriot Act, he's shown he's Bush on steroids with regards to civil rights and other important issues.
You seem to be all over the place on this one. The reality is that it won't necessarily be because of something that does happen. It could just as well be because of something they tell us is happening or has happened. A great deal of groundwork has already been laid and it's been going on for a long time.

It almost doesn't matter what the 'spark' would be. When it's decided that it's time for it the people will pretty much buy whatever they're being sold for a 'reason'.
 
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