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Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
They both hate Jews.
I'm a member of a forum for White Nationalists. There are a lot of National Socialists --Nazis, if you wish -- who are members. One member who, like me, is relatively new to the White Pride movement posted this question:

"I'm wondering what is it that fuels your hatred for Jews the most and makes you dislike them?"

This was my reply:
"Jews are an alien presence in White nations and need to be removed. The jews at the top -- the Cultural Marxist manipulators, the overlords of finance, and the infiltrators working for them -- need to be punished for their crimes against humanity. I don't see this as "hate." It's a matter of survival, for White peoples and cultures.
I don't "hate" the typical jew on the street. I don't want anything to do with him, because he's creepy, but he's not knowingly hurting anyone. It's like a Vietnamese or some other slant -- I don't hate them, I just want the alien out of my country and away from decent White people.
I hate what the ZOG has done and want to see justice. But hatred of people, I don't see White Pride as being about that."

This reply received more "Thumbs Up" (the equivalent of a "Like" or "Agree" here) than any other of my posts there.

Maybe this makes things a little more clear.
There's so much more to White Pride, to National Socialism, and -- if you'll forgive a little ego-centrism -- to me than has been touched on in this thread. Hatred of people isn't part of any of it.

I'll probably pop on tomorrow while the food is in the oven but just in case:
Wishing everyone a wonderful holiday (and to those who aren't American, a wonderful Thursday). May we all have many things to be thankful for in the days and years ahead.
 
Anti-Semitism, plain and simple.
Anti-Semitism? Surely you jest. There is nothing plain, or simple, about it. You may see 'anti-Semitism' (a baseless canard, IMO), but the rest of the world sees an Apartheid state, with a heartless population that believes it is somehow special, God-sanctioned. We need people like that living among us like we need a hole in the head. In my view, and I have seen a lot of these people over the decades, this horrible Luciferic state does not deserve to exist. The sooner we get rid of it, by transforming it into a secular state, where other people, besides Jews, can live, the better for this planet. We have no use for this expensive and blood-thirsty spoiled brat. It takes everything from us and gives us nothing back.
 
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Speaking of beds, you should be more concerned with the fact that you're in bed, ideologically, with radical Islamists.
I am not 'in bed' with anyone marvin martian. I have agreed with and disagreed with absolutely everyone on here, at one time or another, even you, I think, and even your new side kick Max.
I have no political ideology --- other than 'ideologically' being a pacifist --- I don't like politics and I don't like war and I don't like lies. I like clarity, if that, sometimes, disturbs other peoples view of the World, isn't that what we come here to talk about? The differences. Shouldn't every person be allowed their freedom to express, expand their pov without having mud slung at them? Isn't that how we all gain and grow, by listening and discussing and etc?
 

Max R.

On the road
Supporting Member
I'm a member of a forum for White Nationalists. There are a lot of National Socialists --Nazis, if you wish -- who are members. One member who, like me, is relatively new to the White Pride movement posted this question:

"I'm wondering what is it that fuels your hatred for Jews the most and makes you dislike them?"

This was my reply:
"Jews are an alien presence in White nations and need to be removed. The jews at the top -- the Cultural Marxist manipulators, the overlords of finance, and the infiltrators working for them -- need to be punished for their crimes against humanity. I don't see this as "hate." It's a matter of survival, for White peoples and cultures.
I don't "hate" the typical jew on the street. I don't want anything to do with him, because he's creepy, but he's not knowingly hurting anyone. It's like a Vietnamese or some other slant -- I don't hate them, I just want the alien out of my country and away from decent White people.
I hate what the ZOG has done and want to see justice. But hatred of people, I don't see White Pride as being about that."

This reply received more "Thumbs Up" (the equivalent of a "Like" or "Agree" here) than any other of my posts there.

Maybe this makes things a little more clear.
There's so much more to White Pride, to National Socialism, and -- if you'll forgive a little ego-centrism -- to me than has been touched on in this thread. Hatred of people isn't part of any of it.

I'll probably pop on tomorrow while the food is in the oven but just in case:
Wishing everyone a wonderful holiday (and to those who aren't American, a wonderful Thursday). May we all have many things to be thankful for in the days and years ahead.
Since Judaism is a religion like Christianity and Islam, members don't belong to a specific race, but most are Caucasian aka White. Saying Jews are "aliens" to the US is ridiculous especially considering all Whites are alien to the Americas.

 
They both hate Jews.
I have hated two people in my life, one personal and one political. It didn't agree with me, hatred, it made me ill so I never tried it again --- For the 139th time. I do not hate Jews. I do not care what you think or say about me but I will not let you get away with your simplistic lies. Just because poor lil' old you see people in no other way but as simplified stereotypes is no excuse ---
 

Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
Since Judaism is a religion like Christianity and Islam, members don't belong to a specific race
You and I will disagree about that.
A Christian who doesn't accept Jesus as their Savior is not a Christian. A Muslim who doesn't believe that Mohammed was a prophet is not a Muslim. A Jew who doesn't follow the laws God gave Moses on Mount Sinai is still a Jew.

all Whites are alien to the Americas.
You have a valid point but I think we should deal with the reality of the world as it is. We could say that most Americans are alien to America. We could also say that most English are alien to England, most Japanese are alien to Japan, and so on in many places around the world. But Japan isn't going to be given back to the Ainu, England isn't going to be given back to the Celts, and the Americas aren't going to be given back to their natives.
 
You and I will disagree about that.
A Christian who doesn't accept Jesus as their Savior is not a Christian. A Muslim who doesn't believe that Mohammed was a prophet is not a Muslim. A Jew who doesn't follow the laws God gave Moses on Mount Sinai is still a Jew.


You have a valid point but I think we should deal with the reality of the world as it is. We could say that most Americans are alien to America. We could also say that most English are alien to England, most Japanese are alien to Japan, and so on in many places around the world. But Japan isn't going to be given back to the Ainu, England isn't going to be given back to the Celts, and the Americas aren't going to be given back to their natives.
Actually the 'Celts' came later. Most of the English DNA is from the indigenous Europeans who walked here as hunter gathers in the Ice Ages --- Basques too are indigenous to Europe. We two are the first Europeans.
We actually didn't mix much blood with invaders, outside the elite, life went on.
 
Since Judaism is a religion like Christianity and Islam, members don't belong to a specific race, but most are Caucasian aka White. Saying Jews are "aliens" to the US is ridiculous especially considering all Whites are alien to the Americas.


Actually, as we know them today, they are all cults but Judaism has little spirituality to it - little to none, the other two have remnants of spirituality still. And the 8th day circumcision of baby Jewish boys makes it a blood cult.
 

Max R.

On the road
Supporting Member
You and I will disagree about that.
A Christian who doesn't accept Jesus as their Savior is not a Christian. A Muslim who doesn't believe that Mohammed was a prophet is not a Muslim. A Jew who doesn't follow the laws God gave Moses on Mount Sinai is still a Jew.


You have a valid point but I think we should deal with the reality of the world as it is. We could say that most Americans are alien to America. We could also say that most English are alien to England, most Japanese are alien to Japan, and so on in many places around the world. But Japan isn't going to be given back to the Ainu, England isn't going to be given back to the Celts, and the Americas aren't going to be given back to their natives.
Yet you claim you're not antisemitic. Claiming you don't hate Jews, then stating, in essence, once a Jew always a Jew and claiming they are "aliens" is more fucked up than a football bat.
 
I am not 'in bed' with anyone marvin martian. I have agreed with and disagreed with absolutely everyone on here, at one time or another, even you, I think, and even your new side kick Max.
I have no political ideology --- other than 'ideologically' being a pacifist --- I don't like politics and I don't like war and I don't like lies. I like clarity, if that, sometimes, disturbs other peoples view of the World, isn't that what we come here to talk about? The differences. Shouldn't every person be allowed their freedom to express, expand their pov without having mud slung at them? Isn't that how we all gain and grow, by listening and discussing and etc?
It is important to understand that both Max and Marvin are Jewish Zionists, and are dedicated to the Zionist world-view, as well as the bloody Zionist program in Palestine. One must always keep that in mind when engaging those two.
 
It is important to understand that both Max and Marvin are Jewish Zionists, and are dedicated to the Zionist world-view, as well as the bloody Zionist program in Palestine. One must always keep that in mind when engaging those two.
They are establishment ignorant ;-)

Back on Topic ---- Germany, France and Greece are now seriously questioning Turkey's membership in NATO.
 

Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
Back on Topic ---- Germany, France and Greece are now seriously questioning Turkey's membership in NATO.
Yes,back on topic, please: Perhaps we should be questioning the continuation of NATO entirely. It was created for a reason that no longer exists, after all.
 
Yes,back on topic, please: Perhaps we should be questioning the continuation of NATO entirely. It was created for a reason that no longer exists, after all.
Yes --- I question it altogether, from beginning to end, but that is too complex a question for now.

But the big problem with Turkey is that it is working to further its own agenda ---- in the membership agreement all members must back up one member attacked soooo even if we do not agree with them we must back them up in a fight ---- Turkey is, not for the first time, misusing this trust and taking us down a dangerous rd.

If Turkey's border with Syria is closed the War is done because it is the traffic across that border which is keeping the War going.
 

Max R.

On the road
Supporting Member
It is important to understand that both Max and Marvin are Jewish Zionists, and are dedicated to the Zionist world-view, as well as the bloody Zionist program in Palestine. One must always keep that in mind when engaging those two.
It's even more important to understand that you are an antisemitic conspiracy theorist loon who probably wallpapers his basement room with clippings and printouts "connecting the dots".

 

Max R.

On the road
Supporting Member
...Back on Topic ---- Germany, France and Greece are now seriously questioning Turkey's membership in NATO.
More bullshit.

France is royally pissed about a little terrorist incident you obviously are clueless about. Russia is siding with Assad and slowly down cooperation in 1) stabilizing the region and 2) taking out Daesh. That Su-24 wasn't bombing Daesh, it was attacking Syrian rebels.

https://global.handelsblatt.com/edition/315/ressort/politics/article/nato-in-eclipse-as-france-attacks
Instead, Mr. Hollande invoked a little-known clause in the European Union’s treaty, and lobbied France’s E.U. neighbors for help.

On Thursday, Germany didn’t bother to ask NATO before deciding to beef up its own military presence in Syria.

Henning Otte, a defense expert for Chancellor Angela Merkel’s CDU party, announced Germany will send military fighter jets to Syria to help France fight radical Islamists.

In a statement, Mr. Otte did not say how many jets Germany planned to send to Syria, but he promised “Germany will be a more active contributor than it has been until now.”

Germany in the past has preferred to couch its military involvement through international organizations such as NATO and the United Nations rather than going it alone. Its reluctance to publicly deploy its own military has grated on allies for years.

Earlier this week, French president Francois Holland gently chided his country’s biggest trading partner, saying Germany “could do even more” in the fight against IS.

Germany’s decision to send jets shows a new willingness to act unilaterally.

It also represents another weakening of NATO, in a week when the Trans-Atlantic alliance appears to be more of a liability than an asset. On Tuesday, when Mr. Hollande met U.S. President Barack Obama to discuss how the United States could cooperate with France, their talks were derailed with news that Turkey downed a Russian fighter jet it claimed had flown over its airspace.

It was the first time a member of NATO has admitted downing a Russian war plane since the Korean war in the 1950s. Turkey has been a NATO member since 1952.

Russia responded with furious rhetoric, promising revenge.

The Russian president, Vladimir Putin, called the Turkish military action a “stab in the back by the accomplices of terrorists.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/24/middleeast/warplane-crashes-near-syria-turkey-border/index.html
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg urged "calm and de-escalation" to resolve the Turkey-Russia situation, but he noted how Russian forces approach allies' borders.

"I have previously expressed my concern about the implications of the military actions of the Russian Federation close to NATO's borders," the Stoltenberg said. "This highlights the importance of having and respecting arrangements to avoid such incidents in the future.

"As we have repeatedly made clear, we stand in solidarity with Turkey and support the territorial integrity of our NATO ally, Turkey," he added.

NATO continues to follow the matter, Stoltenberg said.

A NATO official told CNN that "when Russian jets violated Turkish airspace a few weeks ago, the Council did meet in an extraordinary session, which resulted in a condemnation of the incursion."



F*ck the damn Russian and their supporters.
 
More bullshit.

France is royally pissed about a little terrorist incident you obviously are clueless about. Russia is siding with Assad and slowly down cooperation in 1) stabilizing the region and 2) taking out Daesh. That Su-24 wasn't bombing Daesh, it was attacking Syrian rebels.

https://global.handelsblatt.com/edition/315/ressort/politics/article/nato-in-eclipse-as-france-attacks
Instead, Mr. Hollande invoked a little-known clause in the European Union’s treaty, and lobbied France’s E.U. neighbors for help.

On Thursday, Germany didn’t bother to ask NATO before deciding to beef up its own military presence in Syria.

Henning Otte, a defense expert for Chancellor Angela Merkel’s CDU party, announced Germany will send military fighter jets to Syria to help France fight radical Islamists.

In a statement, Mr. Otte did not say how many jets Germany planned to send to Syria, but he promised “Germany will be a more active contributor than it has been until now.”

Germany in the past has preferred to couch its military involvement through international organizations such as NATO and the United Nations rather than going it alone. Its reluctance to publicly deploy its own military has grated on allies for years.

Earlier this week, French president Francois Holland gently chided his country’s biggest trading partner, saying Germany “could do even more” in the fight against IS.

Germany’s decision to send jets shows a new willingness to act unilaterally.

It also represents another weakening of NATO, in a week when the Trans-Atlantic alliance appears to be more of a liability than an asset. On Tuesday, when Mr. Hollande met U.S. President Barack Obama to discuss how the United States could cooperate with France, their talks were derailed with news that Turkey downed a Russian fighter jet it claimed had flown over its airspace.

It was the first time a member of NATO has admitted downing a Russian war plane since the Korean war in the 1950s. Turkey has been a NATO member since 1952.

Russia responded with furious rhetoric, promising revenge.

The Russian president, Vladimir Putin, called the Turkish military action a “stab in the back by the accomplices of terrorists.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/24/middleeast/warplane-crashes-near-syria-turkey-border/index.html
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg urged "calm and de-escalation" to resolve the Turkey-Russia situation, but he noted how Russian forces approach allies' borders.

"I have previously expressed my concern about the implications of the military actions of the Russian Federation close to NATO's borders," the Stoltenberg said. "This highlights the importance of having and respecting arrangements to avoid such incidents in the future.

"As we have repeatedly made clear, we stand in solidarity with Turkey and support the territorial integrity of our NATO ally, Turkey," he added.

NATO continues to follow the matter, Stoltenberg said.

A NATO official told CNN that "when Russian jets violated Turkish airspace a few weeks ago, the Council did meet in an extraordinary session, which resulted in a condemnation of the incursion."



F*ck the damn Russian and their supporters.

 

Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
We've been allied with Morocco for a century or more... haven't had any stabs in the back that I know of.
Not yet. Probably not until Islamists overthrow the king.
Turkey was a fine ally until the Islamists gained sway.

Claiming you don't hate Jews, then stating, in essence, once a Jew always a Jew and claiming they are "aliens" is more fucked up than a football bat.
Um, Jews say "once a Jew always a Jew."
 
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