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JuliefromOhio

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Supporting Member
Do they ever shout at you or throw eggs at you or try to beat you up? Just asking.


A true visionary.


Birth control is birth control. Abortion is killing.
Justifiable or not, it is what it is.


There's this new one. They call it "condoms." I hear it works really well. They're even going to let women buy them for their partners. What won't they think of next?
There's also a contraceptive for men called "keep your dick in your pants" but that one's not very popular.
why are you being so ridiculous? why not comment on the top post?
 

Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
why are you being so ridiculous? why not comment on the top post?
no, abortion is not seen as a contraceptive, but as a last resort.....when a guy finds that he's impregnated his girlfriend because he failed to take proper precautions.
Julie, the question was serious. Both sides feel very strongly, and there was even a pro-life supporter who committed murder over it some time back. I wondered if you ever had a problem, if you really do what you said among pro-life demonstrators. Maybe I am ridiculous, but I'm sincerely ridiculous.

My second comment quoting you, about birth control for men, was semi-facetious, of course, but it did address he thread topic and was meant as a comment on men being equally responsible for birth-control -- same as your last post about them not taking precautions.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Julie, the question was serious. Both sides feel very strongly, and there was even a pro-life supporter who committed murder over it some time back. I wondered if you ever had a problem, if you really do what you said among pro-life demonstrators. Maybe I am ridiculous, but I'm sincerely ridiculous.

My second comment quoting you, about birth control for men, was semi-facetious, of course, but it did address he thread topic and was meant as a comment on men being equally responsible for birth-control -- same as your last post about them not taking precautions.
I've had no problem and none of the pro-life protestors in my area have had problems.
 

Caroljo

Senator
what exactly have you done to help your cause?
I don't need to do anything. It'll all be taken care of one day and all those murdered babies will have their revenge. It's not up to me. There's nothing I can do to change the laws unless I have a chance to vote on them. Our leaders won't give it over to the people to decide (although they should). Do you expect me to go out and picket an abortion clinic? What good would that do? Would that change your mind?
 

Caroljo

Senator
no, abortion is not seen as a contraceptive, but as a last resort.....when a guy finds that he's impregnated his girlfriend because he failed to take proper precautions.
So it's all the man's fault.....no surprise you think that Julie! Last resort? LMAO!!!
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
I don't need to do anything. It'll all be taken care of one day and all those murdered babies will have their revenge. It's not up to me. There's nothing I can do to change the laws unless I have a chance to vote on them. Our leaders won't give it over to the people to decide (although they should). Do you expect me to go out and picket an abortion clinic? What good would that do? Would that change your mind?
you vote for abortion law every election.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
So it's all the man's fault.....no surprise you think that Julie! Last resort? LMAO!!!
can I ask a question about how you raised your sons so they'd be guaranteed virgins until marriage....or would you get all stupid and report me? hmm?
 

Caroljo

Senator
can I ask a question about how you raised your sons so they'd be guaranteed virgins until marriage....or would you get all stupid and report me? hmm?
You blamed the guy for getting the girl pregnant, like she had nothing to do with it! That was a pretty stupid comment. Why do you think it's up to the man? Are women too stupid to protect themselves (well, some are). I never expected any of my kids to be 'virgins' until marriage, not the way the world is today. But I did teach my sons to be careful if they didn't want to end up with kids before marriage! Just as I taught my daughter how to be careful if she didn't want a child. That's really all a parent can do, and hope they listen. Mine did.
 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
You blamed the guy for getting the girl pregnant, like she had nothing to do with it! That was a pretty stupid comment. Why do you think it's up to the man? Are women too stupid to protect themselves (well, some are). I never expected any of my kids to be 'virgins' until marriage, not the way the world is today. But I did teach my sons to be careful if they didn't want to end up with kids before marriage! Just as I taught my daughter how to be careful if she didn't want a child. That's really all a parent can do, and hope they listen. Mine did.
then there was no need for you to act so stupid in your other posts in this thread, was there?
 
You blamed the guy for getting the girl pregnant, like she had nothing to do with it! That was a pretty stupid comment. Why do you think it's up to the man? Are women too stupid to protect themselves (well, some are). I never expected any of my kids to be 'virgins' until marriage, not the way the world is today. But I did teach my sons to be careful if they didn't want to end up with kids before marriage! Just as I taught my daughter how to be careful if she didn't want a child. That's really all a parent can do, and hope they listen. Mine did.
We all tell them to be careful. But they are not always careful and when it results in a pregnancy, they should have the choice of an abortion. Look at it this way: we are all very careful operating a chain saw but if the saw accidentally cuts off a finger, we save the finger and head to the doctor. Medicine can help....
 

Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
We all tell them to be careful. But they are not always careful and when it results in a pregnancy, they should have the choice of an abortion. Look at it this way: we are all very careful operating a chain saw but if the saw accidentally cuts off a finger, we save the finger and head to the doctor. Medicine can help....
Yeah. It's like how my parents told me to be careful with my money but I loaned some to someone who didn't pay it back, so I paid someone to terminate their life. My father taught me how to be a careful driver but there was that time I decided to go a different way home than usual so I could stop in on a friend and when I was making the left turn into her driveway that kid rear-ended me, so I paid someone to crush his skull and throw his remains in a garbage pail. It's just like that. Ending a human life is a perfectly appropriate way to deal with our bad decisions.
 
Yeah. It's like how my parents told me to be careful with my money but I loaned some to someone who didn't pay it back, so I paid someone to terminate their life. My father taught me how to be a careful driver but there was that time I decided to go a different way home than usual so I could stop in on a friend and when I was making the left turn into her driveway that kid rear-ended me, so I paid someone to crush his skull and throw his remains in a garbage pail. It's just like that. Ending a human life is a perfectly appropriate way to deal with our bad decisions.
You sure seem to prefer murder to solve your problems. Abortion though is not murder is it? You could look it up under Roe v Wade. Then if you really want to educate yourself, read the majority opinion in that case. Now if after doing that you still think it is morally wrong to have an abortion, I can give you wise advice. Don't have one.
 

Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
You sure seem to prefer murder to solve your problems.
No, see, I was using sarcasm to show that you prefer murder to solve a "problem," specifically, unwanted pregnancies. Thought that was obvious. Guess not to everyone. Oh, were you being sarcastic? Silly, uneducated me.
Abortion though is not murder is it?
Yes, it is.
Roe v Wade didn't change that, it just made it impossible for states to call it that legally or stop it completely.
Now if after doing that you still think it is morally wrong to have an abortion, I can give you wise advice. Don't have one.
If you think it is morally wrong to commit murder, don't murder anyone. Stand by and keep quiet while other people are murdered, just don't do it yourself.
Hmmm?
Nope. Doesn't hold up.
Wait ... but some judges said it was okay, so murdering infants is legal. So shut up about it and just don't kill your own baby if you don't want to.
Hmmmm?
Nope. Still doesn't hold up.
 
No, see, I was using sarcasm to show that you prefer murder to solve a "problem," specifically, unwanted pregnancies. Thought that was obvious. Guess not to everyone. Oh, were you being sarcastic? Silly, uneducated me.

Yes, it is.
Roe v Wade didn't change that, it just made it impossible for states to call it that legally or stop it completely.

If you think it is morally wrong to commit murder, don't murder anyone. Stand by and keep quiet while other people are murdered, just don't do it yourself.
Hmmm?
Nope. Doesn't hold up.
Wait ... but some judges said it was okay, so murdering infants is legal. So shut up about it and just don't kill your own baby if you don't want to.
Hmmmm?
Nope. Still doesn't hold up.
If you keep making this a central core of the GOP movement, you will die still fighting this battle. You will be frustrated, you will become enraged and you will die unfulfilled because you fail to grasp the almost insurmountable hurdle you face overturning Roe v. Wade. So, argue until you turn blue, debate until your fingers are sore, but realize one simple truth. Roe will never, ever be overturned. Deal with it.
 

Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
If you keep making this a central core of the GOP movement, you will die still fighting this battle. You will be frustrated, you will become enraged and you will die unfulfilled because you fail to grasp the almost insurmountable hurdle you face overturning Roe v. Wade. So, argue until you turn blue, debate until your fingers are sore, but realize one simple truth. Roe will never, ever be overturned. Deal with it.
First, you didn't address the actual content of the post to which you replied. Asserting that a court decision will never be overturned doesn't reply to the argument I was making, which was in direct response to the argument you'd made.

Second, I am not and have never been a member of the GOP, have voted for candidates from both major parties as well as those in minor parties, and don't care a bit about what either of the major parties claim as a "central core" -- neither has one.

Corollary: Not everyone who thinks infanticide ought to be illegal is a Republican. Not everyone who thinks it ought to be legal and called "pro-choice" or "a women's health issue" is a Democrat.

Lastly, everyone who opposes legal infanticide is well aware of the difficulty that would be involved in overturning Roe v Wade. So, too, are those who support states' rights, along with those who oppose judicial activism and believe that the constitutional separation of powers is good and wise.

No battle for the good, the just, the moral is ever easy. No one ever made the world better by avoiding a hard battle or giving up in the face of difficulty. The good fight will be fought to the grave and carried on by the next generation. Let me be buried with a face turned blue and fingers sore, throat parched and limbs exhausted...yet with a spine unbroken, a heart filled with hope, and a soul that still realizes THIS one simple truth: In the end, the good WILL triumph.
 
First, you didn't address the actual content of the post to which you replied. Asserting that a court decision will never be overturned doesn't reply to the argument I was making, which was in direct response to the argument you'd made.

Second, I am not and have never been a member of the GOP, have voted for candidates from both major parties as well as those in minor parties, and don't care a bit about what either of the major parties claim as a "central core" -- neither has one.

Corollary: Not everyone who thinks infanticide ought to be illegal is a Republican. Not everyone who thinks it ought to be legal and called "pro-choice" or "a women's health issue" is a Democrat.

Lastly, everyone who opposes legal infanticide is well aware of the difficulty that would be involved in overturning Roe v Wade. So, too, are those who support states' rights, along with those who oppose judicial activism and believe that the constitutional separation of powers is good and wise.

No battle for the good, the just, the moral is ever easy. No one ever made the world better by avoiding a hard battle or giving up in the face of difficulty. The good fight will be fought to the grave and carried on by the next generation. Let me be buried with a face turned blue and fingers sore, throat parched and limbs exhausted...yet with a spine unbroken, a heart filled with hope, and a soul that still realizes THIS one simple truth: In the end, the good WILL triumph.
Abortion prior to the third trimester is not legal infanticide. This is a fact both legally and scientifically. If you want to support the forced motherhood of women all across the nation then in essence, you have decided to make the womb state property.
 

Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
Abortion prior to the third trimester is not legal infanticide. This is a fact both legally and scientifically.
It is in no way a fact. Not legally nor scientifically. It's an opinion only. It has some validity biologically. It's been used legally. Assertion, legal or scientific, is not fact.
If you want to support the forced motherhood of women all across the nation then in essence, you have decided to make the womb state property.
Making abortion-on-demand illegal doesn't make the womb state property any more than having murder committed in one's own home makes private homes state property. Not any more than having heroin illegal makes veins state property, having child pornography illegal makes children state property, having bank robbery illegal makes banks state property, on and on. The state restricting behavior is what laws are. When that behavior impacts others, there's no dispute that laws restricting it are a proper function of government. Abortion is not an exception.

No one who opposes legal or unrestricted abortion supports "forced motherhood" -- such an assertion, the very idea, just the term is spurious to the point of being utter nonsense. I support fully a woman's right to choose; to choose to be responsible, to choose any of the many and low-cost forms of birth-control available, to choose to keep her legs closed.

"Forced motherhood" - Beyond ridiculous and typical dissembling newspeak, insulting to the most limited of intellects.
 
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