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Poll: favorite American Black leader?

Which historical American Black political leader do you most admire?

  • Frederick Douglass

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Harriet Tubman

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • W.E.B. DuBois

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Marcus Garvey

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Martin Luther King

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Malcolm X

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Barack Obama

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Herman Cain

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Ben Carson

    Votes: 3 27.3%
  • other (specify)

    Votes: 3 27.3%

  • Total voters
    11
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Wolfert Webber

Guest
Why does America need a black leader? To focus it more, why do blacks need a black leader?
Whites don't need a white leader.
Asians don't need an Asian leader.
Jews don't need a Jew leader.
I'm thinking that Catholics are the only world wide religion with a single leader: the Pope.

What is it about blacks that liberals believe the race is so inferior that it needs its own leader? Are blacks NOT real Americans? They vote in elections.

They've had a black leader for eight years and they're worse off now than they were during Jim Crow.
They certainly were sold a bill of goods voting in a half-white, half-American son of an international bum.
 

EatTheRich

President
Why does America need a black leader? To focus it more, why do blacks need a black leader?
Whites don't need a white leader.
Asians don't need an Asian leader.
Jews don't need a Jew leader.
I'm thinking that Catholics are the only world wide religion with a single leader: the Pope.

What is it about blacks that liberals believe the race is so inferior that it needs its own leader? Are blacks NOT real Americans? They vote in elections.

They've had a black leader for eight years and they're worse off now than they were during Jim Crow.
Asians did and do need a civil rights movement. Just because you weren't taught about it in school doesn't mean it wasn't real. Jews needed leaders too. The white leaders have always been the leaders of the United States, of course (with the exception of Obama). Blacks needed and need a leader to challenge the systems of race-based slavery and discrimination (for example, to fight for the right for Blacks to vote in elections). And the best Black leaders (like Malcolm X) are leaders not just for Blacks but for all of us.
 

EatTheRich

President
So how far can it go before BLM pushes the cops too far?
The cops are afraid of BLM and the tens of millions of Americans who stand with it. If they had the capacity to rule (by virtue of having worked out a realistic communist program in advance), they would already be in control of the state power.

Do you think the black people that mind their business, work, and live in fear of the thugs in their community will back them?
Absolutely, and lots of white and Brown people too. People are tired of the injustice and waking up to the police state taking shape around us.

Do you think these same working class blacks will suffer more than anybody else if shit does hit the fan?
Initially, almost certainly. But in the long run, they'll be the biggest beneficiaries in this country of a successful workers' revolution.
 
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Wolfert Webber

Guest
The cops are afraid of BLM and the tens of millions of Americans who stand with it. If they had the capacity to rule (by virtue of having worked out a realistic communist program in advance), they would already be in control of the state power.



Absolutely, and lots of white and Brown people too. People are tired of the injustice and waking up to the police state taking shape around us.



Initially, almost certainly. But in the long run, they'll be the biggest beneficiaries in this country of a successful workers' revolution.
There will be no "workers" revolution, and the malignancy in the black community will be solved by the black community or it won't be solved.

As for cops being scared of BLM, cops are scared of PC.

Push that narrative that cops are scared BLM, and see what happens.

Napoleon called it a "whiff of grapeshot", today it would be 15 seconds of full auto fire, and BLM will be over.

You are delusional.

Sad.
 

reason10

Governor
<<<<Asians did and do need a civil rights movement. Just because you weren't taught about it in school doesn't mean it wasn't real.>>>

Asians have had the greatest civil rights movement in history. It's called the FAMILY. Asian FAMILIES demand more of their children, which is why their children are kicking our [Unwelcome language removed] asses today.

<<<Jews needed leaders too.>>>>

I see no evidence whatsoever of today's Jews being a victim movement. And this is after coming back from a liberal HOLOCAUST that wiped out over six million of them.

<<<<<The white leaders have always been the leaders of the United States, of course (with the exception of Obama). Blacks needed and need a leader to challenge the systems of race-based slavery and discrimination (for example, to fight for the right for Blacks to vote in elections).>>>>

Actually, the LEADERS who got rid of slavery and got voting rights for Blacks was WHITE REPUBLICANS. Without Republicans, blacks would still be picking cotton and still riding slave ships from Africa, WHERE THEY SOLD EACH OTHER INTO SLAVERY.

<<<<And the best Black leaders (like Malcolm X) are leaders not just for Blacks but for all of us.>>>

The ONLY black leaders who aren't [Unwelcome language removed] their own people are folks like Herman Cain, Allen West, Dr. Ben Carson, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. And it looks like President Trump will get more good paying jobs for blacks than the last five Democrat presidents combined.

Remember, Democrats CREATED the welfare state and the ghettos where blacks are imprisoned today. And Democrats are the ones who believe blacks are so inferior that they need a black leader.

Republican conservatives believe blacks are smarter than that. We believe they can climb out of that hellhole the Democrats put them.
 

EatTheRich

President
There will be no "workers" revolution, and the malignancy in the black community will be solved by the black community or it won't be solved.

As for cops being scared of BLM, cops are scared of PC.

Push that narrative that cops are scared BLM, and see what happens.

Napoleon called it a "whiff of grapeshot", today it would be 15 seconds of full auto fire, and BLM will be over.

You are delusional.

Sad.
If working-class Black people weren't used to getting shot at, there wouldn't be a BLM movement. What difference is a bit more shooting going to make? What makes you think the rest of the country is going to stand for a massacre of peaceful civil rights demonstrators?

"History shows us that every revolution against oppression has been successful."-Afeni Shakur
 

EatTheRich

President
Asians have had the greatest civil rights movement in history. It's called the FAMILY. Asian FAMILIES demand more of their children, which is why their children are kicking our [Unwelcome language removed] asses today.
Asians are still paid less than comparably educated whites, though.

I see no evidence whatsoever of today's Jews being a victim movement. And this is after coming back from a liberal HOLOCAUST that wiped out over six million of them.
The Holocaust ... a political program of the far right ... is an example of Jews being victimized.

Actually, the LEADERS who got rid of slavery and got voting rights for Blacks was WHITE REPUBLICANS. Without Republicans, blacks would still be picking cotton and still riding slave ships from Africa, WHERE THEY SOLD EACH OTHER INTO SLAVERY.
Not really the case. While the contributions of white Republicans on the far left (Thaddeus Stevens, Charles Sumner, etc.) shouldn't be minimized, the fact is that their antislavery wing of the Republican Party wasn't in the ascendancy, and Lincoln didn't heed Karl Marx's call for emancipation, until after Blacks had begun escaping en masse to behind Union lines and fighting en masse in the Union Army, forcing military commanders to establish emancipation as a war measure.

Heck, the Republican Party might not have been created if not for the decades of antislavery agitation by Frederick Douglass.

The ONLY black leaders who aren't [Unwelcome language removed] their own people are folks like Herman Cain, Allen West, Dr. Ben Carson, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. And it looks like President Trump will get more good paying jobs for blacks than the last five Democrat presidents combined.

Remember, Democrats CREATED the welfare state and the ghettos where blacks are imprisoned today. And Democrats are the ones who believe blacks are so inferior that they need a black leader.

Republican conservatives believe blacks are smarter than that. We believe they can climb out of that hellhole the Democrats put them.
Remember, the welfare state was a response to the utter destitution that would return were it to be dismantled now. When the vast majority of Blacks disagree with you, you have to think they are stupid to justify imposing a program they disagree with on them.
 
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Wolfert Webber

Guest
If working-class Black people weren't used to getting shot at, there wouldn't be a BLM movement. What difference is a bit more shooting going to make? What makes you think the rest of the country is going to stand for a massacre of peaceful civil rights demonstrators?

"History shows us that every revolution against oppression has been successful."-Afeni Shakur
Must be Hell living in a shooting gallery where your kids and grandkids are the shooters.

The country will stand for a massacre of looters, never doubt that.
 
I voted "other" and listed Fred Hampton as my choice.
While King and Malcolm were middle-aged before Whitey decided they should die, Fred was four months beyond his 21st birthday when the Chicago PD murdered him in his sleep:

"Automatic gunfire then converged at the head of the south bedroom where Hampton slept, unable to awaken as a result of the barbiturates the FBI infiltrator had slipped into his drink. He was lying on a mattress in the bedroom with his fiancée, who was eight-and-a-half months pregnant with their child.[22] Two officers found him wounded in the shoulder, and fellow Black Panther Harold Bell reported that he heard the following exchange:

"That's Fred Hampton."
"Is he dead?... Bring him out."
"He's barely alive.
"He'll make it."
"Two shots were heard, which were later discovered were fired point blank in Hampton's head. According to Johnson, one officer then said:

"He's good and dead now."[8][25]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hampton#1969_raid_and_assassination
 
White people can easily become Americans. Black people, not so easy. Why? Because we are a nation founded upon a horrible sin that we will never, ever recover from...
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
Sheriff David Clarke.



An absolutely amazing man who just might be able to lead black people of this nation to a much better place.
Not for fun....................for real.

As for past Black Leaders........Harriet Tubman. I love her.
I love this guy; hope to see him in the Trump Administration in some capacity.
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
White people can easily become Americans. Black people, not so easy. Why? Because we are a nation founded upon a horrible sin that we will never, ever recover from...
We had pretty much recovered from it before Barack Obama began his instigation of racial unrest, strife and division, for his own political agenda.
 

oicu812

"Trust, but Verify"
I like Malcolm X because he was militant and internationalist and a communist sympathizer and he outgrew so many of the reactionary prejudices of the Nation of Islam movement where he got started because he was willing to put aside the man he'd been in the past and take charge of his own future on behalf of his people. And by the end of his life, his people were all revolutionaries and all those who stood on the side of the oppressed.

how'd that work out for him?
 

oicu812

"Trust, but Verify"
i vote for buckwheat...

during the depression this talented young black man showed others they too could overcome racial differences and achieve success!

"buckwheat tay ohtay!"


 
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Wolfert Webber

Guest
White people can easily become Americans. Black people, not so easy. Why? Because we are a nation founded upon a horrible sin that we will never, ever recover from...
Funny how other countries in the Western hemisphere have recovered from slavery and we can't.
 

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
Funny how other countries in the Western hemisphere have recovered from slavery and we can't.
There is too much political capital to be made by Liberals to let this country heal the wounds of slavery. It would totally destroy the race baiting pimp industry (Al Sharpton; Jesse Jackson; Barack Obama) and keep thousands of Democrats from ever winning political office.
 
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