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Republicans = utter failure

Jen

Senator
Republicans assured us all that if given the opportunity they would fix everything for us. They got the opportunity and what they've done is a failure of massive proportions.

Can't anyone we elect get things right for a change?



Republican Leaders..............you cannot just walk away from this one.

@Arkady and @middleview. This thread is for you and your posts over on that other thread where they didn't belong. Put 'em here.
 
Republicans showed nothing in the campaign to suggest they were capable of fulfilling any of their promises.
They have shown nothing in the past 40 years to suggest they are anything but incompetent windbags.
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
Republicans assured us all that if given the opportunity they would fix everything for us. They got the opportunity and what they've done is a failure of massive proportions.

Can't anyone we elect get things right for a change?



Republican Leaders..............you cannot just walk away from this one.

@Arkady and @middleview. This thread is for you and your posts over on that other thread where they didn't belong. Put 'em here.
Agreed. The GOP is worthless - and has been for quite some time. It's good to see a few top posts from conservatives introspecting a bit and calling out their own. The Republicans are a pathetic lot, I agree.

That's something you won't see from the entitled, adolescent, non-self-aware, hubris-soaked lefty hordes...multiple top posted critiques and laments regarding Democrat pols.

To be a leftist is to be a profoundly broken human being - and while we are all broken, lefty cannot repent. His index finger is forever pointed outward.

There is ZERO humility there.
 
Agreed. The GOP is worthless - and has been for quite some time. It's good to see a few top posts from conservatives introspecting a bit and calling out their own. The Republicans are a pathetic lot, I agree.

That's something you won't see from the entitled, adolescent, non-self-aware, hubris-soaked lefty hordes...multiple top posted critiques and laments regarding Democrat pols.

To be a leftist is to be a profoundly broken human being - and while we are all broken, lefty cannot repent. His index finger is forever pointed outward.

There is ZERO humility there.
Republican nowadays are defined as anarchists, nihilists, and fatalists. They think they are incapable of doing anything positive so everyone was is also that incapable. The world is filled with people with positive ideas and who can contribute to a better society, they just aren't in the Republican party.
 

Arkady

President
Republicans assured us all that if given the opportunity they would fix everything for us. They got the opportunity and what they've done is a failure of massive proportions.

Can't anyone we elect get things right for a change?



Republican Leaders..............you cannot just walk away from this one.

@Arkady and @middleview. This thread is for you and your posts over on that other thread where they didn't belong. Put 'em here.
The Republicans have become a party that's all about style, not substance. That was politically useful in the Obama years, when all that was needed to keep the base in line was to take the leading role in the Two Minute Hate. They were great at organizing symbolic Obamacare repeal votes and symbolic "investigations" that everyone knew didn't actually matter. But they've lost track of how to actually govern.

I suspect part of the reason is because of what happened in the Bush years. For the first time in generations they had both houses of Congress, and the presidency, and the majority on the Supreme Court, and so they were able to get their way, without having to compromise with the Democrats. This gave their ideas the unfettered test run they'd never really had before. Major parts of the New Deal were repealed (good-bye PUHCA). Private-sector innovation proceeded without new regulatory curbs (e.g., the way the shadow banking system flourished with mortgages packaged up, tranched, insured, and securitized). They got the war they'd spent years itching for in the Middle East, and the monster increases to the military budget, and big upper-class tax cuts, and the roll-back of gun regulations, and all their favorite people in charge of defense and security, etc. Only, it didn't turn out like they expected.

By 2008, most things in America were noticeably worse than they'd been in 2000. Unemployment and poverty were much higher, incomes and stock values were much lower, the Middle East had devolved into a bloody quagmire, New Orleans was a soggy shadow of its former self, lower Manhattan was a ruin, Bin Laden was running free, US credibility was shattered, the nation was in the midst of the worst recession since the Great Recession, credit markets were frozen, etc. Even in the few areas where things hadn't actually gotten worse, they'd gone through eight years of relative stagnation, compared to the rapid improvements in the pre- and post-Bush eras (e.g., murder rates effectively holding steady under Bush, compared to declines under Clinton and Obama).

When you get everything you've been calling for, and the results are drastically terrible, it's got to make you a bit gun-shy. I think that's why the Republicans have come to focus exclusively on what they're good at (getting gullible people to hate whoever the Democratic enemy-of-the-moment is), rather than what they're bad at (enacting effective policies).
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
Republican nowadays are defined as anarchists, nihilists, and fatalists. They think they are incapable of doing anything positive so everyone was is also that incapable. The world is filled with people with positive ideas and who can contribute to a better society, they just aren't in the Republican party.
Yep...piling on...and ZERO introspection.

Lefty is a very, very craven husk of a being. He is EVERYTHING we want our children NOT to be.
 

Arkady

President
That's something you won't see from the entitled, adolescent, non-self-aware, hubris-soaked lefty hordes...multiple top posted critiques and laments regarding Democrat pols.=
There is frequent and strong criticism of Democrats by liberals. You just are intellectually unfit to recognize it, because your mind can only accommodate criticisms from a right-wing perspective. Thus, for example, when a liberal faults Obama for having squandered much of his first term on an ineffectual attempt to win bipartisan support for his ideas from the Republicans, that doesn't register as a criticism in your mind, since it is a criticism of Obama for not having been more aggressively liberal.
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
There is frequent and strong criticism of Democrats by liberals. You just are intellectually unfit to recognize it, because your mind can only accommodate criticisms from a right-wing perspective. Thus, for example, when a liberal faults Obama for having squandered much of his first term on an ineffectual attempt to win bipartisan support for his ideas from the Republicans, that doesn't register as a criticism in your mind, since it is a criticism of Obama for not having been more aggressively liberal.
False. Your last supposed critique "lambasted" Obama for not getting after the REAL bad guys (Bush).

Lefty cannot introspect. There's just no humility or self-awareness within that husk.
 
Yep...piling on...and ZERO introspection.

Lefty is a very, very craven husk of a being. He is EVERYTHING we want our children NOT to be.
I played nice during the election and Republicans bullsh*tted their way into a majority. Now is our chance to expose just how full of sh*t Republicans are, and I am not letting off the gas till Republicans take their vacuous conspiracy theories the back bench and Trump is impeached for the fraud he perpetrated against the voters.
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
Have you stopped and considered the idea you might encounter more introspective discussions here if you ever demonstrated a capacity for introspection yourself?
Nonsense. Today alone I have shredded the GOP and conservative pols in multiple threads - without that critique being based upon lack of prosecution of the OTHER party. But this isn't about me or any single poster.

There are plenty on the right who recognize poor conduct among their own, who observe incompetence in their pols, who themselves regularly apologize and admit error.

Here we have lefties MOCKING non-lefties specifically FOR apologizing.

Lefty typically resembles animated fecal matter in this forum. There's just no decency there.
 

Jen

Senator
Republican nowadays are defined as anarchists, nihilists, and fatalists. They think they are incapable of doing anything positive so everyone was is also that incapable. The world is filled with people with positive ideas and who can contribute to a better society, they just aren't in the Republican party.
Democrats tend to define anything they disagree with in pejorative terms and incoherent responses (see bold). It's stupid because it doesn't accomplish anything. While I agree that the GOP isn't what it should be, I will discern between responses that are stupid and those that are thoughtfully critical when discussing it. Thank you for your contribution.
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
I played nice during the election and Republicans bullsh*tted their way into a majority. Now is our chance to expose just how full of sh*t Republicans are, and I am not letting off the gas till Republicans take their vacuous conspiracy theories the back bench and Trump is impeached for the fraud he perpetrated against the voters.
Hmmm. Highly introspective there.
 
Nonsense. Today alone I have shredded the GOP and conservative pols in multiple threads - without that critique being based upon lack of prosecution of the OTHER party. But this isn't about me or any single poster.

There are plenty on the right who recognize poor conduct among their own, who observe incompetence in their pols, who themselves regularly apologize and admit error.

Here we have lefties MOCKING non-lefties specifically FOR apologizing.

Lefty typically resembles animated fecal matter in this forum. There's just no decency there.
This is a thread titled, "Republicans=Utter failure" I am staying on topic.
 

Jen

Senator
The Republicans have become a party that's all about style, not substance. That was politically useful in the Obama years, when all that was needed to keep the base in line was to take the leading role in the Two Minute Hate. They were great at organizing symbolic Obamacare repeal votes and symbolic "investigations" that everyone knew didn't actually matter. But they've lost track of how to actually govern.

I suspect part of the reason is because of what happened in the Bush years. For the first time in generations they had both houses of Congress, and the presidency, and the majority on the Supreme Court, and so they were able to get their way, without having to compromise with the Democrats. This gave their ideas the unfettered test run they'd never really had before. Major parts of the New Deal were repealed (good-bye PUHCA). Private-sector innovation proceeded without new regulatory curbs (e.g., the way the shadow banking system flourished with mortgages packaged up, tranched, insured, and securitized). They got the war they'd spent years itching for in the Middle East, and the monster increases to the military budget, and big upper-class tax cuts, and the roll-back of gun regulations, and all their favorite people in charge of defense and security, etc. Only, it didn't turn out like they expected.

By 2008, most things in America were noticeably worse than they'd been in 2000. Unemployment and poverty were much higher, incomes and stock values were much lower, the Middle East had devolved into a bloody quagmire, New Orleans was a soggy shadow of its former self, lower Manhattan was a ruin, Bin Laden was running free, US credibility was shattered, the nation was in the midst of the worst recession since the Great Recession, credit markets were frozen, etc. Even in the few areas where things hadn't actually gotten worse, they'd gone through eight years of relative stagnation, compared to the rapid improvements in the pre- and post-Bush eras (e.g., murder rates effectively holding steady under Bush, compared to declines under Clinton and Obama).

When you get everything you've been calling for, and the results are drastically terrible, it's got to make you a bit gun-shy. I think that's why the Republicans have come to focus exclusively on what they're good at (getting gullible people to hate whoever the Democratic enemy-of-the-moment is), rather than what they're bad at (enacting effective policies).
@Arkady, while I disagree with just about everything you've said here, it does, at least follow a thought process.
This isn't about the Bush administration. Neither is it about the Obama administration. But, like you, I don't think our lawmakers have been able to get past either of them. During the Bush years, the Democrats, instead of wanting to make our nation strong and good, focused on taking down GWBush because the GOP had nailed Clinton for his perfidy and perjury. It was revenge at its finest.

Bush wasn't perfect and he made some huge mistakes. Instead of dealing with them with maturity and responsibility, the Democrats did so with snide vengeance and when the Democrats got Congress, their full intent was to bring the economy down to discredit Bush. The Democrats were fine with hurting the people of America as long as it hurt Bush. And they succeeded. Obama inherited a mess. Blame for the mess was partially due to Bush, but wouldn't have been nearly so bad had the Democrats not made it so. Democrats talked a good game about the "people" but when push came to shove...........people didn't matter.

Obama came into the Presidency and the GOP wanted to, and stated that they would bring him down. Limbaugh and leading Republicans said that Obama's agenda must fail for the sake of the nation. They were right. But the game was afoot and it was really the Democrats that the GOP wanted to bring down. People didn't matter. Again.

Trump came on the scene and nobody thought he could be nominated much less elected. But, as we know, both happened. Now, Democrats and Republicans realize that Trump is about to upset their little game. We think Dems and GOP leaders hate each other? Nah. They had their public yelling matches going to draw attention from all the skimming off the top and feathering their nests they were doing. Trump was going to blow all of that out of the water.

I don't think the GOP and the Dems are on the same side, but both are definitely not on Trump's side. This little failure of the GOP is not only showcasing that they are just as inept as the Democrats come when it comes down to actually helping the people they were elected to represent............. it shows that they are adamant at not helping anyone who might actually change the way things are run in DC.

All we can do is watch.
I think it's pretty disgusting.
 
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Jen

Senator
Agreed. The GOP is worthless - and has been for quite some time. It's good to see a few top posts from conservatives introspecting a bit and calling out their own. The Republicans are a pathetic lot, I agree.

That's something you won't see from the entitled, adolescent, non-self-aware, hubris-soaked lefty hordes...multiple top posted critiques and laments regarding Democrat pols.

To be a leftist is to be a profoundly broken human being - and while we are all broken, lefty cannot repent. His index finger is forever pointed outward.

There is ZERO humility there.
Republicans have no problem calling out their own. Democrats are understandably afraid to do it. Can't much blame them for that. Democrats are so angry they will eat their own if necessary. It's common knowledge that they are broken people who have taken compassion and tolerance to such an extreme that it is no longer either compassionate or tolerant.

I am not a Republican - having left the party when Bush took us into Iraq, but I do vote Republican consistently, so for all intents and purposes here on PJ, I am Republican.
 
Republicans assured us all that if given the opportunity they would fix everything for us. They got the opportunity and what they've done is a failure of massive proportions.

Can't anyone we elect get things right for a change?



Republican Leaders..............you cannot just walk away from this one.

@Arkady and @middleview. This thread is for you and your posts over on that other thread where they didn't belong. Put 'em here.
Yup, they screwed the pooch alright. Hopefully, this will hasten the destruction of the alleged "two party" system we have and open the door for actual conservatives to gain some power.
 

Spamature

President
Agreed. The GOP is worthless - and has been for quite some time. It's good to see a few top posts from conservatives introspecting a bit and calling out their own. The Republicans are a pathetic lot, I agree.

That's something you won't see from the entitled, adolescent, non-self-aware, hubris-soaked lefty hordes...multiple top posted critiques and laments regarding Democrat pols.

To be a leftist is to be a profoundly broken human being - and while we are all broken, lefty cannot repent. His index finger is forever pointed outward.

There is ZERO humility there.
You're just acting like a big baby because your secret hero got his but kicked. You could have stopped with "I agree".

But no ! You just had to lash out, didn't you ?

You don't even know how foolishly hypocritical it looks for you to attack "lefty" for their hubris and as broken and finger pointing . When you launch into a tirade against them in a post about Republicans failing.

You gotta be kidding.
 

RickWA

Snagglesooth
You're just acting like a big baby because your secret hero got his but kicked. You could have stopped with "I agree".

But no ! You just had to lash out, didn't you ?

You don't even know how foolishly hypocritical it looks for you to attack "lefty" for their hubris and as broken and finger pointing . When you launch into a tirade against them in a post about Republicans failing.

You gotta be kidding.
Say, that certianly was a humility-infusion into this strand, lefty...
:confused:
 
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