resident_evil
Senator
Yeah, you fight propaganda with information. You trust your people and they trust you because you've been doing a good job. Most internet crap doesn't amount to a hill of beans.
And the web of Treason expands to Breitbart .
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Spamature
President
Propaganda is information. It's just bad information. Look I keep getting my top post called fake news. Now not one poster who has said that has offered up proof that the post were fake news. What they object to is that it contradicts what they WANT to believe.
As long as people WANT to believe something and are not willing to question what they believe. Propaganda as the advantage. Because it is always willing to find a way to tell you at least "something" you want to believe and will accept. Even if it's wrapped in a blanket of lies.
resident_evil
Senator
Answer some questions then.
Are you saying Trump colluded with Putin?
Trump became president what did Putin get out of it?
Spamature
President
YES ! I firmly believe he colluded with Putin. There is just too much evidence out in the open to ignore. Also he may have something on Trump that makes him vulnerable. You have to admit Trump's unwavering support/defense of Putin is suspicious as hell.
For one thing Putin did not want Clinton. He hates her and blames her for fomenting dissent and trying to oust him in 2011. So knocking her off wasn't just business. It was also personal. Also there is the chance that he could get sanctions lifted on Russia. Remember Exxon (Tillerson) was partners in a $500 billion oil project stalled by those sanctions.
There there is the report plan delivered to Trump's desk by his personal lawyer that essentially says that Putin keeps the Crimea and has the sanctions lifted in exchange for paying a fine. That's damn good deal for Putin. Also there is the weakening of NATO.
resident_evil
Senator
But Trump would increase defense spending by $50B and Trump is trying to force S. Korea, Japan, Australia, and most NATO members to increase their defense spending and pay their "fair" share. If I was Putin and I had something on Trump I'd use it now to undermine all of that defense spending from happening.
I don't believe Trump colluded with Putin. Putin may have hacked Podesta and the DNC but when nation states have programs like Umbrage that is unprovable - unless they hacked Russian servers and gathered data such as an email from Putin to his cyber command directing or inquiring about the hacks. And I'd worry they were fabricated at this point for political purposes.
https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/
Boca
Governor
Even if true, I'm trying to figure out where the "crime'' is that would warrant an FBI investigation?
If true and the FBI is investigating then it speaks to the treachery of Comey and the FBI and warrants a Congressional investigation.
Then there's this....It is widely believed Mr Trump was the preferred candidate of Russian President Vladmir Putin during last year’s election campaign?????
Well,...yeaah...Obama preferred Netanyahu's opponent...and sent money and people to make it happen. Should the FBI have investigated?
As for Putin preferring Trump, why not? It was Clinton and Obama that armed the forces that they wanted to overthrow Putin's ally in Syria. Who the hell would he prefer?
This idiocy has to stop! I don't think it will and I do think it will not end well. Not at all!
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Spamature
President
Mary Surratt only ran a boarding house. She still did the dance at the end of a rope.
Boca
Governor
Spamature
President
I figured you righties would be looking back on him in fond remembrance of the good old days.You mean there's hope?
It looks like you haven't learned your lesson yet.
But as you say, there is still hope.
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You will be banned for continually writing posts with no actual content.
Flaming, and comments that add nothing to the discussion are grounds for banning.
You know who you are and it is getting out of hand and cluttering up the board.
Add to the discussion or accept the ban.
Thank you for your understanding.
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Flaming, and comments that add nothing to the discussion are grounds for banning.
You know who you are and it is getting out of hand and cluttering up the board.
Add to the discussion or accept the ban.
Thank you for your understanding.
SW48, Oct 7, 2014 Report
Definitely misleading. And I have not once used the word liar. If you are going to say I called Spam a liar you better damn well have proof. At the time he posted most of your examples they were fake news and had not happened yet or were grossly misleading and pure partisan bs.
I didn't vote for Trump and never would. But I also don't consider a single tweet he tweets as serious. They are knee jerk reactions from a child like mind. Very sad that spam and the media spend 24 hours a day speculating on Trumps tweets.
I haven't said one word about Spam personally and have only commented on spams posts and not him.
Why split hairs? Misinformation is a lie. If you have a different definition of "fake" news, let us know so we are all on the same page.
If you post that there is no vote on healthcare 24 hours before they decide not to vote on healthcare that is fake news or pure speculation.
It is fake news to say today that there was collusion between Russia and Trump since at this point its just speculation. To present it as fact is "fake news". Tomorrow if they have some hard evidence then that can become real news.
Spamature
President
There was no vote on healthcare 24 hrs before that was another no vote on healthcare. They stated that they were going to vote on it Thursday. They did not. Then 24hr later on Friday they did not vote for the second time.
The dossier is hard evidence. That evidence does need to be investigated further. But so does all evidence when its first handed over. What you want is a confession from Trump himself before you believe the evidence.
I've been gone for 10 days. Is Trump arrested for collusion with the Russians yet, or is that still fake news? Give me an update.
Thanks
Spamature
President
You can't arrest the President. He can only be impeached and remove. Now once he is no longer POTUS you can then put him in handcuffs.
But the noose is tightening even with Nunes running interference.
Trump is a traitor. Eventually we'll remove the mess. But the stain will remain as an ugly part of our history forever. Someday when you are old and gray children will ask you about. You can tell them you never believed until you had no choice. But you won't be able to honestly say you weren't warned.
