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Wife Now Regrets Supporting Trump After Husband Set to be Deported

What I have is the very strong smell of FAKE NEWS and Bullshit. Trump has already said he is concentrating on criminals right now...so why is this guy being looked at? You should know better these days.....double check....look for additional sources...and then wait to see if it can actually be verified. It may be true....but if it is it makes no sense at all in light of the current policies. NONE....so you would be wise to double check the story instead of simply embracing it because it suits you. You guys keep getting hammered on that.

Let's see if it actually happens.....Ill follow this story every day for the next month.....to see what develops. My guess is the guy is going nowhere....I'll believe it when James O'keefe goes down there and actually questions the family face to face.

JO
Okeefe is a fiction writer.
 
He has a family here and has built a business that serves and employs member of his community. I believe there should be some path to citizenship for him that does not destroy all of that.

What say you ?

There is a path to citizenship, for every person who wants to come here. This man chose not to follow it, and instead broke the law. He seems a decent guy, so I would be open to deporting him, then allowing him to apply for citizenship following the legal process, instead of banning him permanently as is the case with most deported illegals.
 

Arkady

President
Adrian Bott's response did make me laugh.

Helen Beristain is a vocal supporter of President Donald Trump. She’s said in the past that she voted for the President because she agreed with an immigration policy that he promoted. Now, as her husband is about to be deported, her family is on the wrong side of a system she thought would spare them.

Eddie’s Steak Shed owner to be deported Friday, according to family https://t.co/HqeZi5CTv9 pic.twitter.com/ygt7ghYqUn


— WNDU (@WNDU) March 22, 2017
Personally, I have trouble feeling sorry for halfwits like her. Yes, it sucks for the kids, whose family is being mercilessly torn apart, when they had no say in electing Trump. But the woman followed the exact same path countless other Trump marks did over his long career as a con man -- being led into personal tragedy by their own greed and stupidity. She had every reason to know it was foolish to give the man power over her life, and she did so anyway.

She's like those imbeciles who thought "Trump University" was a great use of their hard-earned paychecks, or those suckers who played the part of the "bigger fool" in buying stock in Trump's bankruptcy-bound resorts, or the contractors who took on Trump projects without bothering to read even the little bit about him you'd need to read to figure out his ordinary business practice is to refuse to pay his bills unless sued, and then negotiate pennies on the dollar.

I have tons of sympathy for the people who were too young to vote, or who didn't have voting rights for other reasons, or who voted for Clinton (or voted third party in a state that wasn't competitive), and yet whose lives are going to be destroyed by the man. But for those who helped empower Trump to prey on them, I don't have any sympathy left over. She has nobody but herself to blame. She did this to herself, her husband, and her family, and I hope that knowledge keeps her up at night.
 

Spamature

President
Personally, I have trouble feeling sorry for halfwits like her. Yes, it sucks for the kids, whose family is being mercilessly torn apart, when they had no say in electing Trump. But the woman followed the exact same path countless other Trump marks did over his long career as a con man -- being led into personal tragedy by their own greed and stupidity. She had every reason to know it was foolish to give the man power over her life, and she did so anyway.

She's like those imbeciles who thought "Trump University" was a great use of their hard-earned paychecks, or those suckers who played the part of the "bigger fool" in buying stock in Trump's bankruptcy-bound resorts, or the contractors who took on Trump projects without bothering to read even the little bit about him you'd need to read to figure out his ordinary business practice is to refuse to pay his bills unless sued, and then negotiate pennies on the dollar.

I have tons of sympathy for the people who were too young to vote, or who didn't have voting rights for other reasons, or who voted for Clinton (or voted third party in a state that wasn't competitive), and yet whose lives are going to be destroyed by the man. But for those who helped empower Trump to prey on them, I don't have any sympathy left over. She has nobody but herself to blame. She did this to herself, her husband, and her family, and I hope that knowledge keeps her up at night.
I feel worse for the Trump University people because with that scam Trump could put of the veneer of legitimacy. They used all of the tricks of the trade and had blue print from veteran scam artist. But when it came to the election there was no hiding who he was and what he was about for an entire year and a half. The first tweet responding to her tweet said it all.

I never thought a leopard would eat my face. Says the woman who voted for leopards eating people's faces.
 
Personally, I have trouble feeling sorry for halfwits like her. Yes, it sucks for the kids, whose family is being mercilessly torn apart, when they had no say in electing Trump. But the woman followed the exact same path countless other Trump marks did over his long career as a con man -- being led into personal tragedy by their own greed and stupidity. She had every reason to know it was foolish to give the man power over her life, and she did so anyway.
I agree. Marrying a criminal was a HUGE mistake on her part. However, he seems like a decent guy, so after he's deported, I would be ok allowing him to apply for legal status, get in line like everyone else, and try again.
 

Arkady

President
I feel worse for the Trump University people because with that scam Trump could put of the veneer of legitimacy. They used all of the tricks of the trade and had blue print from veteran scam artist. But when it came to the election there was no hiding who he was and what he was about for an entire year and a half. The first tweet responding to her tweet said it all.

I never thought a leopard would eat my face. Says the woman who voted for leopards eating people's faces.
Yes, that's a great tweet.

Maybe I have an under-developed sense of sympathy, but I have trouble working up much pity for the self-deluded, even in cases like Trump University. Confidence tricks tend to target not just gullible people, but greedy, dishonest gullible people -- people looking to get away with something. They get what they deserve.

For example, consider the people caught up in pyramid schemes because they imagined it would be someone else at the end of the day left with no greater fools to recruit. Or consider the classic Nigerian prince scam, where people are convinced to front money to fund an operation that they imagine will help a foreign dignitary skirt local law to move a huge sum of money out of his country (with part of it becoming their windfall). Who falls for that? It's not just a dumb person. It's a very specific kind of dumb person. It's a greedy, unethical dummy who gets seduced by the idea of getting a share of unearned wealth for taking part in shady dealings.

I get come-ons like that in my email frequently, and they're almost always built around an appeal to bad character traits. They aren't trying to suck me in with compassion. They're trying to trick me into thinking I can get rich by doing something shifty -- for example, they pretend to think I'm the heir to a fortune that there's no way I'd imagine I was actually the heir to, and the whole grift is designed to shut down my BS detector by making me think I'm the one taking advantage of them, rather than vice versa.

I'm not saying ALL confidence tricks are based on appealing to greed, or vanity, or other negative traits. Some prey on the desperate, some on the gullibly compassionate. But usually the con men pick their marks based on character flaws, since people are least cautious when they're thinking of themselves as predator instead of prey. That was definitely Trump's M.O.

Trump University appealed to the greedy -- people who thought they'd learn the secret short-cut to riches by flipping properties and otherwise gaming the system the way Trump did. The Trump campaign appealed to the lowest features of human nature, too. He picked his marks based on their greed, their vanity, and their hate. And so when he then exploits those who were horrible enough to vote for him, I have no sympathy. I would feel bad if they were merely stupid, but they were stupid and evil, and so they deserve what they get. There are enough innocent victims that I don't need to waste my sympathy on self-selected ones.
 

Spamature

President
Yes, that's a great tweet.

Maybe I have an under-developed sense of sympathy, but I have trouble working up much pity for the self-deluded, even in cases like Trump University. Confidence tricks tend to target not just gullible people, but greedy, dishonest gullible people -- people looking to get away with something. They get what they deserve.

For example, consider the people caught up in pyramid schemes because they imagined it would be someone else at the end of the day left with no greater fools to recruit. Or consider the classic Nigerian prince scam, where people are convinced to front money to fund an operation that they imagine will help a foreign dignitary skirt local law to move a huge sum of money out of his country (with part of it becoming their windfall). Who falls for that? It's not just a dumb person. It's a very specific kind of dumb person. It's a greedy, unethical dummy who gets seduced by the idea of getting a share of unearned wealth for taking part in shady dealings.

I get come-ons like that in my email frequently, and they're almost always built around an appeal to bad character traits. They aren't trying to suck me in with compassion. They're trying to trick me into thinking I can get rich by doing something shifty -- for example, they pretend to think I'm the heir to a fortune that there's no way I'd imagine I was actually the heir to, and the whole grift is designed to shut down my BS detector by making me think I'm the one taking advantage of them, rather than vice versa.

I'm not saying ALL confidence tricks are based on appealing to greed, or vanity, or other negative traits. Some prey on the desperate, some on the gullibly compassionate. But usually the con men pick their marks based on character flaws, since people are least cautious when they're thinking of themselves as predator instead of prey. That was definitely Trump's M.O.

Trump University appealed to the greedy -- people who thought they'd learn the secret short-cut to riches by flipping properties and otherwise gaming the system the way Trump did. The Trump campaign appealed to the lowest features of human nature, too. He picked his marks based on their greed, their vanity, and their hate. And so when he then exploits those who were horrible enough to vote for him, I have no sympathy. I would feel bad if they were merely stupid, but they were stupid and evil, and so they deserve what they get. There are enough innocent victims that I don't need to waste my sympathy on self-selected ones.
I think in the case of Trump. They saw what they assumed was THE most successful real estate developer in America. He had years of news stories and media to back him up. What did they know ? And he was willing to sell them HIS secret. ( Of course he secret was actually being born the son of the richest man in NYC. But that's besides the point. )

Trump's scam was so egregious because from the outside nobody would think he needed their money. And he might just as well not didn't need their money. He just saw an opportunity to get it. So he took it. He did the same thing to banks and Wall Street investors. Who might not have been honest and are definitely greedy but certainly should not be considered stupid.

I had a friend who I had to talk down because he was convinced he was long lost British Royalty due an inheritance after getting one of those come ons. Wasn't easy for him to live that down. Sometimes I still end sentences to him with "M'lord".
 

Arkady

President
I think in the case of Trump. They saw what they assumed was THE most successful real estate developer in America.
Perhaps. But they also saw what they should have assumed was a deeply immoral man, who'd made money as a slum lord, and the proprietor of gambling houses, booze businesses, spectacles of female objectification, etc. There'd been plenty of news stories to make it clear what kind of business man he was -- a shifty showman who got rich with hype, then folded up his failed companies and left others holding the bill. People who signed up for Trump University were the kinds of people who looked at the Trump modus operandi and thought to themselves "I want to know how to get rich screwing people, too." So, I have no sympathy for them. If you looked at Trump and thought he was the guy to teach you how to get ahead in business, you deserve to have him steal your money. You signed to be taught the con, and you learned it the hard way.

I had a friend who I had to talk down because he was convinced he was long lost British Royalty due an inheritance after getting one of those come ons. Wasn't easy for him to live that down. Sometimes I still end sentences to him with "M'lord".
I've known that type, too. Maybe your experience differs, but in mine they're inevitably Republicans -- something about the overwrought sense of greed and the underdeveloped BS detector makes people vulnerable to Republican politicians and other con men.
 

Constitutional Sheepdog

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Did you feel smarter after the gop shafted you this week ?

You should.

You learned they were playing you for a sucker. And now she's learned that karma is a bitch.

You GOPERs should call Trump the education president with all the lessons he's teaching you.
translation: must redirect from my failure by starting different discussion.
 

Spamature

President
translation: must redirect from my failure by starting different discussion.
You know you're right. I shouldn't be so rough on you guys. People make terrible decisions from time to time and they need to be forgiven for that.

So I forgive you for your Trump vote . It was a mistake but America might survive it. Who knows.
 

Constitutional Sheepdog

][][][%er!!!!!!!
You know you're right. I shouldn't be so rough on you guys. People make terrible decisions from time to time and they need to be forgiven for that.

So I forgive you for your Trump vote . It was a mistake but America might survive it. Who knows.
If I'm right for pointing out your failure why are you whining like a little bitch?
Trump is the best choice for America to fix the [Unwelcome language removed] up that you help to create.
 
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