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Spamature

President
If they can't kill Americans at least they can piss them off.

Republicans Push For 'Ringless Voicemail' Spam


by Karl Bode
Friday May 26 2017 16:00 EDT
Tipped by ISurfTooMuch


The GOP’s leading campaign and fundraising arm, the Republican National Committee, is throwing its support behind a push that could let robocallers spam your voicemail inbox -- without your phone ever ringing. As it stands, annoying consumers (you) with robocalls currently violates the Telephone Consumer Protection Act (TCPA). More specifically, the law bans any non-emergency calls made with auto-dialers, computer-generated or prerecorded voices without the "prior express consent of the called party."


But a number of companies (including a marketing company named "All About the Message") are petitioning the current FCC for an exemption that would allow them to bombard your voicemail inbox without technically causing your phone to ring.
And the push this week got some major help by the Republican National Committee, who in filings with the FCC tries to argue that the marketing industry's ability to annoy you is a First Amendment right.

The FCC's failure to allow an exemption for ringless voicemail "would not only restrict an important form of non-intrusive communication; it would have serious consequences for the First Amendment rights of those engaged in political communication via telephone," claims the RNC.

In other words, the RNC is claiming it's the marketing industry's First Amendment right to be able to send marketing missives directly to your voicemail inbox. Obviously lacking from the RNC letter is any real concern about the fact that consumers don't want anything like this implemented.

The US Chamber of Commerce and the American Financial Services Association have also thrown their weight behind the push for a ringless voicemail exemption. The Chamber of Commerce goes so far as to call anti-robocall and anti-spam protection provided under the TCPA as "archaic," suggesting it prevents the marketing industry from developing new and amazing ways to annoy you.

Raise your hand if you'd like your voicemail populated with marketing and political missives each morning?


https://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Republicans-Push-For-Ringless-Voicemail-Spam-139653
 

BobbyT

Governor
If they can't kill Americans at least they can piss them off.

Republicans Push For 'Ringless Voicemail' Spam


by Karl Bode
Friday May 26 2017 16:00 EDT
Tipped by ISurfTooMuch


The GOP’s leading campaign and fundraising arm, the Republican National Committee, is throwing its support behind a push that could let robocallers spam your voicemail inbox -- without your phone ever ringing. As it stands, annoying consumers (you) with robocalls currently violates the Telephone Consumer Protection Act (TCPA). More specifically, the law bans any non-emergency calls made with auto-dialers, computer-generated or prerecorded voices without the "prior express consent of the called party."


But a number of companies (including a marketing company named "All About the Message") are petitioning the current FCC for an exemption that would allow them to bombard your voicemail inbox without technically causing your phone to ring.
And the push this week got some major help by the Republican National Committee, who in filings with the FCC tries to argue that the marketing industry's ability to annoy you is a First Amendment right.

The FCC's failure to allow an exemption for ringless voicemail "would not only restrict an important form of non-intrusive communication; it would have serious consequences for the First Amendment rights of those engaged in political communication via telephone," claims the RNC.

In other words, the RNC is claiming it's the marketing industry's First Amendment right to be able to send marketing missives directly to your voicemail inbox. Obviously lacking from the RNC letter is any real concern about the fact that consumers don't want anything like this implemented.

The US Chamber of Commerce and the American Financial Services Association have also thrown their weight behind the push for a ringless voicemail exemption. The Chamber of Commerce goes so far as to call anti-robocall and anti-spam protection provided under the TCPA as "archaic," suggesting it prevents the marketing industry from developing new and amazing ways to annoy you.

Raise your hand if you'd like your voicemail populated with marketing and political missives each morning?


https://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Republicans-Push-For-Ringless-Voicemail-Spam-139653
Unbelievable that anyone would think this is something any consumer would want. They are so far in the pockets of the lobbyists there's no room to breathe.
 

Craig

Senator
Supporting Member
If they can't kill Americans at least they can piss them off.

Republicans Push For 'Ringless Voicemail' Spam


by Karl Bode
Friday May 26 2017 16:00 EDT
Tipped by ISurfTooMuch


The GOP’s leading campaign and fundraising arm, the Republican National Committee, is throwing its support behind a push that could let robocallers spam your voicemail inbox -- without your phone ever ringing. As it stands, annoying consumers (you) with robocalls currently violates the Telephone Consumer Protection Act (TCPA). More specifically, the law bans any non-emergency calls made with auto-dialers, computer-generated or prerecorded voices without the "prior express consent of the called party."


But a number of companies (including a marketing company named "All About the Message") are petitioning the current FCC for an exemption that would allow them to bombard your voicemail inbox without technically causing your phone to ring.
And the push this week got some major help by the Republican National Committee, who in filings with the FCC tries to argue that the marketing industry's ability to annoy you is a First Amendment right.

The FCC's failure to allow an exemption for ringless voicemail "would not only restrict an important form of non-intrusive communication; it would have serious consequences for the First Amendment rights of those engaged in political communication via telephone," claims the RNC.

In other words, the RNC is claiming it's the marketing industry's First Amendment right to be able to send marketing missives directly to your voicemail inbox. Obviously lacking from the RNC letter is any real concern about the fact that consumers don't want anything like this implemented.

The US Chamber of Commerce and the American Financial Services Association have also thrown their weight behind the push for a ringless voicemail exemption. The Chamber of Commerce goes so far as to call anti-robocall and anti-spam protection provided under the TCPA as "archaic," suggesting it prevents the marketing industry from developing new and amazing ways to annoy you.

Raise your hand if you'd like your voicemail populated with marketing and political missives each morning?


https://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Republicans-Push-For-Ringless-Voicemail-Spam-139653
Deplorable.

That said, I have never set up voice mail on my phone...and never will. The landline, yes, we still have a landline, has an answering machine. I've turned the ringer off and only know of someone is calling when they begin to talk.

The cell phone is for limited use; I hate the quality of the calls...so it's mostly a texting device. I would never know about the voice mails. Still, it's a deplorable action by the deplorable party.

Truly...wth are these jerks thinking??

As the New York Times reported earlier this month, the nearly 30 billion telemarketing calls U.S. cellphone owners received last year (one-and-a-half times as many last December as in December 2015, according to YouMail) consistently topped the FCC’s list of consumer complaints...


http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2017/05/24/the_rnc_wants_to_be_able_to_leave_voicemails_without_your_phone_ringing.html
 
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Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
As much as I hate voice mail, I have to admit that if you have a phone, and the number is published, or you give it out, other Americans have a first amendment right to call you up. And if you have it set up with voice mail, then they have the right to leave you a message. As usual, I'm not surprised by the left's efforts to use big government to deprive others of their first amendment rights. You don't like it? Get rid of your phone!
 
D

Deleted member 21794

Guest
As much as I hate voice mail, I have to admit that if you have a phone, and the number is published, or you give it out, other Americans have a first amendment right to call you up. And if you have it set up with voice mail, then they have the right to leave you a message. As usual, I'm not surprised by the left's efforts to use big government to deprive others of their first amendment rights. You don't like it? Get rid of your phone!
Apparently Spamature hasn't heard of the do not call list, either.
 

Craig

Senator
Supporting Member
As much as I hate voice mail, I have to admit that if you have a phone, and the number is published, or you give it out, other Americans have a first amendment right to call you up. And if you have it set up with voice mail, then they have the right to leave you a message. As usual, I'm not surprised by the left's efforts to use big government to deprive others of their first amendment rights. You don't like it? Get rid of your phone!
Does not matter if the number is "published" or not. It's merely a numeric sequence. Robo dialers just dial, constantly, dial...the next number. Today, most of these numbers are spoofs; sometimes, my own number appears as the "caller".

I don't see spamming people's voice mails as a first amendment speech right. They are using a tool of mine to further their "speech". One can sue telemarketers for violating the rules, which is why they all use VOIP now.

That said, again...I never set up voice mail. They will send these messages to the void, never to be heard.
 
D

Deleted member 21794

Guest
Does not matter if the number is "published" or not. It's merely a numeric sequence. Robo dialers just dial, constantly, dial...the next number. Today, most of these numbers are spoofs; sometimes, my own number appears as the "caller".

I don't see spamming people's voice mails as a first amendment speech right. They are using a tool of mine to further their "speech". One can sue telemarketers for violating the rules, which is why they all use VOIP now.

That said, again...I never set up voice mail. They will send these messages to the void, never to be heard.
Ever heard of the do not call list, Einstein? Typical Craig. You'd rather sit around and whine than use a simple, available solution to solve this big non-problem that has been around for at least three years anyway.
 

Constitutional Sheepdog

][][][%er!!!!!!!
If they can't kill Americans at least they can piss them off.

Republicans Push For 'Ringless Voicemail' Spam


by Karl Bode
Friday May 26 2017 16:00 EDT
Tipped by ISurfTooMuch


The GOP’s leading campaign and fundraising arm, the Republican National Committee, is throwing its support behind a push that could let robocallers spam your voicemail inbox -- without your phone ever ringing. As it stands, annoying consumers (you) with robocalls currently violates the Telephone Consumer Protection Act (TCPA). More specifically, the law bans any non-emergency calls made with auto-dialers, computer-generated or prerecorded voices without the "prior express consent of the called party."


But a number of companies (including a marketing company named "All About the Message") are petitioning the current FCC for an exemption that would allow them to bombard your voicemail inbox without technically causing your phone to ring.
And the push this week got some major help by the Republican National Committee, who in filings with the FCC tries to argue that the marketing industry's ability to annoy you is a First Amendment right.

The FCC's failure to allow an exemption for ringless voicemail "would not only restrict an important form of non-intrusive communication; it would have serious consequences for the First Amendment rights of those engaged in political communication via telephone," claims the RNC.

In other words, the RNC is claiming it's the marketing industry's First Amendment right to be able to send marketing missives directly to your voicemail inbox. Obviously lacking from the RNC letter is any real concern about the fact that consumers don't want anything like this implemented.

The US Chamber of Commerce and the American Financial Services Association have also thrown their weight behind the push for a ringless voicemail exemption. The Chamber of Commerce goes so far as to call anti-robocall and anti-spam protection provided under the TCPA as "archaic," suggesting it prevents the marketing industry from developing new and amazing ways to annoy you.

Raise your hand if you'd like your voicemail populated with marketing and political missives each morning?


https://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Republicans-Push-For-Ringless-Voicemail-Spam-139653
Well imagine that democrats went from the Klan to Islam and whiners to irrelevant and whiners. Never mind forget that they never left the Klan and are still irrelevant
 

EatTheRich

President
As much as I hate voice mail, I have to admit that if you have a phone, and the number is published, or you give it out, other Americans have a first amendment right to call you up. And if you have it set up with voice mail, then they have the right to leave you a message. As usual, I'm not surprised by the left's efforts to use big government to deprive others of their first amendment rights. You don't like it? Get rid of your phone!
There's no 1st Amendment right to be heard ... any more than the 1st Amendment gives me a right to paint slogans on the side of your house.
 

Raoul_Luke

I feel a bit lightheaded. Maybe you should drive.
Nor listen to voice mail.
Haha! Precisely! Now, if only every phone had the same command for erasing VMs - THAT would be something I'd like to see the government mandate. I have nine at work and seven on my cell phone, so I end up having to listen to the whole message to get to the prompt to remind me which number deletes it. Sheesh!
 

Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
As much as I hate voice mail, I have to admit that if you have a phone, and the number is published, or you give it out, other Americans have a first amendment right to call you up. And if you have it set up with voice mail, then they have the right to leave you a message.
You're rights end where another person's nose begins. The 1st amendment can't been seen as protecting automated voices on robo-dialed calls, imo.

Apparently Spamature hasn't heard of the do not call list, either.
The do-not-call list doesn't do anything to stop robo-calls.
Nor does the illegality of robo-calls to begin with.

Who says you have to listen to voice mail?
Mixed in with the dozens of robo-call junk could be a real message from a real person you know who has something to say that you want or need to hear.
 
D

Deleted member 21794

Guest
You're rights end where another person's nose begins. The 1st amendment can't been seen as protecting automated voices on robo-dialed calls, imo.


The do-not-call list doesn't do anything to stop robo-calls.
Nor does the illegality of robo-calls to begin with.


Mixed in with the dozens of robo-call junk could be a real message from a real person you know who has something to say that you want or need to hear.
If your first point is to be understood, wouldn't spam be illegal?

The rest I really don't disagree with. My primary objection is that while this has been happening for at least three years, it's somehow now a Republican issue. That makes my BS meter go off the charts.
 
"Merkel, After Discordant G-7 Meeting, Is Looking Past Trump"

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/28/world/europe/angela-merkel-trump-alliances-g7-leaders.html?_r=0

"Ms. Merkel seemed particularly upset with Mr. Trump’s refusal to endorse language supporting free trade and backing the Paris climate accord in the Group of 7 declaration after two days of talks in Taormina, Sicily. There have been reports that Mr. Trump intends to abandon the 195-nation climate deal agreed upon in 2015, arguing that it hurts the American economy."
 

Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
If your first point is to be understood, wouldn't spam be illegal?
If congress made spamming illegal, it would not be a violation of 1st amendment rights, imo.

My primary objection is that while this has been happening for at least three years, it's somehow now a Republican issue. That makes my BS meter go off the charts.
Good, it should. It's playing politics and expecting -- usually correctly -- that the general public will never notice the deception.


AWWWW.
Stop it now or you're going to turn me into a Trump supporter.
Anyone ticking off judenfrau Merkel is doing something right.
 
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