In liberal Seattle, there's a statue of Lenin. Yep. That is correct.

middleview said:

Did you read the PS? Guess not. There was already another post, some time back, about another HOA that was mentioned as banning the American flag, but that group banned all flags. The architectural committee in our HOA is three people. This hao seem more anal about maintaining some picture postcard version of a community where the beauty is in the bland sameness...They could be anti-American, but there isn't enough info to know.

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I didn't post about some other post and some other HOA. Try to keep up.

The Thinker said:

I didn't post about some other post and some other HOA. Try to keep up.

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And did you read my entire post before responding? I'd guess not. Try to pay attention.

middleview said:

Did you read the PS? Guess not. There was already another post, some time back, about another HOA that was mentioned as banning the American flag, but that group banned all flags. The architectural committee in our HOA is three people. This hao seem more anal about maintaining some picture postcard version of a community where the beauty is in the bland sameness...They could be anti-American, but there isn't enough info to know.

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One of my corporate clients once had a similar thing happen (not a matter I worked on, but one I heard about). They came up with a rule saying no stickers on hard-hats. This was based on an OSHA rule that put the burden on employers to show that any alterations in safety helmets didn't diminish their effectiveness. The concern was that a sticker could be masking a crack in the helmet that otherwise would be detected by inspection, leaving the person wearing the helmet vulnerable. So, the simplest thing was to ban stickers. As you might have anticipated, immediately some people who'd put American flags on their helmets took this as a sign that the company was anti-American. Even though the rule applied equally to any sticker, this was enough to cause an employee-relations problem.

Has anyone researched this tale? The comments suggest not.

The city of Seattle has nothing at all to do with this statue. They did not commission it, pay for it, nor support it in any fashion. It does not sit upon public property. It does not sit in a place of honor, in front of City Hall, nor the Library, nor in a public park.

It was found in a junkyard in Poland and brought to Washington State as a PR stunt for a planned restaurant.

It is for sale.

https://fremont.com/about/lenin/

Craig said:

Has anyone researched this tale? The comments suggest not.

The city of Seattle has nothing at all to do with this statue. They did not commission it, pay for it, nor support it in any fashion. It does not sit upon public property. It does not sit in a place of honor, in front of City Hall, nor the Library, nor in a public park.

It was found in a junkyard in Poland and brought to Washington State as a PR stunt for a planned restaurant.

It is for sale.

https://fremont.com/about/lenin/

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Did you hear that @Arkady? The statue is for sale! You can put it in your front yard.

middleview said:

So putting up a statue to honor Lee Harvey Oswald would be ok?

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If someone wanted to, it's their right to speech. However, since he was a mere either lone assassin, or most likely a patsy for something more sinister, I don't see why anyone would want to honor the man.

middleview said:

Hitler and Ho Chi Minh are big factors in our nations history....

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No they weren't, they were foreign enemies of our nation.

The Confederacy was southern America, fighting against an attempt to impose northern will of heavy tariffs and economic warfare at the expense of the south. So many historically honorable individuals for the time were on both sides. The Confederacy had many valid points, ones worth visiting. Only leftists write off the Confederacy with a slander or slur. They value an overwhelming, dominant central government so much, they use fascism and historical revision to attack..

Barbella said:

I hear no screeching to tear it down, I see no 'activists' toppling it, it just stands there... proud, unbothered, and apparently admired by so many....

Do any of you liberal morons even know who Lenin was? And if so, why do you find a confederate general's likeness offensive, but a mass murdering bastard like Lenin is ok? Do you even see how insane that is?

https://downtrend.com/donn-marten/wtf-there-is-a-statue-of-communist-dictator-vladimir-lenin-in-seattle

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You must have missed this screeching to tear it down.
https://www.google.com/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59955bb3e4b0acc593e53b45/amp

Besides the difference in moral character (did Lenin kill people? Yes. Was it to defeat an invading army that was systematically murdering Jews? Yes.), there's also the fact that unlike say the Lee statue in Charlottesville, this is on private property.

Emily said:

Note: Woodrow Wilson wasn't a Confederate, never owned slaves, none of that. He held attitudes that some today consider to be racist. So no monuments, not because of anything he did, but because of what he thought.
This is justifiable in America how?

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Because it's the right of the people to choose who is honored.

Barbella said:

I hear no screeching to tear it down, I see no 'activists' toppling it, it just stands there... proud, unbothered, and apparently admired by so many....

Do any of you liberal morons even know who Lenin was? And if so, why do you find a confederate general's likeness offensive, but a mass murdering bastard like Lenin is ok? Do you even see how insane that is?

https://downtrend.com/donn-marten/wtf-there-is-a-statue-of-communist-dictator-vladimir-lenin-in-seattle

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MY guess is NO, they don't see how insane that is.

The Thinker said:

I hear Adolph Hitler had some positive impacts on Europe. Just look at all those people he gave jobs to developing and manufacturing tanks, planes and other weapons.

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It seems all rightists agree.

EatTheRich said:

You must have missed this screeching to tear it down.
https://www.google.com/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59955bb3e4b0acc593e53b45/amp

Besides the difference in moral character (did Lenin kill people? Yes. Was it to defeat an invading army that was systematically murdering Jews? Yes.), there's also the fact that unlike say the Lee statue in Charlottesville, this is on private property.

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Why does it not surprise me that you are defending Lenin?

Mr. Friscus said:

If someone wanted to, it's their right to speech. However, since he was a mere either lone assassin, or most likely a patsy for something more sinister, I don't see why anyone would want to honor the man.


No they weren't, they were foreign enemies of our nation.

The Confederacy was southern America, fighting against an attempt to impose northern will of heavy tariffs and economic warfare at the expense of the south. So many historically honorable individuals for the time were on both sides. The Confederacy had many valid points, ones worth visiting. Only leftists write off the Confederacy with a slander or slur. They value an overwhelming, dominant central government so much, they use fascism and historical revision to attack..

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The Confederacy was an illegal conspiracy to violently overturn the results of an election that didn't go the slaveowners ' way. If it had won the Confederate leaders would've been foreign enemies of the U.S.

Barbella said:

I hear no screeching to tear it down, I see no 'activists' toppling it, it just stands there... proud, unbothered, and apparently admired by so many....

Do any of you liberal morons even know who Lenin was? And if so, why do you find a confederate general's likeness offensive, but a mass murdering bastard like Lenin is ok? Do you even see how insane that is?

https://downtrend.com/donn-marten/wtf-there-is-a-statue-of-communist-dictator-vladimir-lenin-in-seattle

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Do you display a statue of your Uncle Adolph in your yard? Just curious.

NinaS said:

Do you display a statue of your Uncle Adolph in your yard? Just curious.

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Without a doubt one of the dumbest posts ever on this board. Congratulations, you outdid yourself!

Arkady said:

I do not. I do, however, see him as having had some positive impacts, which is more than we can say for that traitorous loser, Robert E. Lee. As such, I can picture why some would want to honor Lenin, even though I would not.

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I can picture why someone would want to honor any mass murderer like Lenin. Hell, Leftists like to walk around with a copy of Mao's book int heir pocket quoting Lenin verbatim.

A man who defied extreme odds to defend his homeland against encroaching Federalism seems mild in comparison.

Mr. Friscus said:

If someone wanted to, it's their right to speech. However, since he was a mere either lone assassin, or most likely a patsy for something more sinister, I don't see why anyone would want to honor the man.


No they weren't, they were foreign enemies of our nation.

The Confederacy was southern America, fighting against an attempt to impose northern will of heavy tariffs and economic warfare at the expense of the south. So many historically honorable individuals for the time were on both sides. The Confederacy had many valid points, ones worth visiting. Only leftists write off the Confederacy with a slander or slur. They value an overwhelming, dominant central government so much, they use fascism and historical revision to attack..

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Read the articles of secession. They were forming a country to preserve slavery and destroying the United States in the process. There was nothing at all that was honorable in it...

Corruptbuddha said:

I can picture why someone would want to honor any mass murderer like Lenin. Hell, Leftists like to walk around with a copy of Mao's book int heir pocket quoting Lenin verbatim.

A man who defied extreme odds to defend his homeland against encroaching Federalism seems mild in comparison.

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Yea, sure thing..."encroaching federalism" isn't mentioned as the reason for session by any of the documents issued by those states as they seceded, but feel free to reinvent history...
South Carolina's articles of secession primarily sited the fact that union states would not allow Southern law enforcement (really bounty hunters) to go north to apprehend escaped slaves as a violation of the Constitution...

Any participant in the effort to dismantle the United States in the cause of preserving slavery is hardly deserving of honors paid to them.

Barbella said:

Without a doubt one of the dumbest posts ever on this board. Congratulations, you outdid yourself!

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Hit a nerve, Fraulein?

middleview said:

Yea, sure thing..."encroaching federalism" isn't mentioned as the reason for session by any of the documents issued by those states as they seceded, but feel free to reinvent history...
South Carolina's articles of secession primarily sited the fact that union states would not allow Southern law enforcement (really bounty hunters) to go north to apprehend escaped slaves as a violation of the Constitution...

Any participant in the effort to dismantle the United States in the cause of preserving slavery is hardly deserving of honors paid to them.

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Slavery was the catalyst, not the cause. If he federal government hadn't been forcing the states to give up one thing, in this case slavery, the war would have been fought over another issue.

The state's rights issue had to be solved with blood. And the Federal government's power was solidified with 600,000 casualties.

NinaS said:

Hit a nerve, Fraulein?

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Funny...I was thinking....this is one of the dumbest threads ever on this board.