All Black People Are No Good.

georgephillip said:

Only one side invaded a city most of them did not live in chanting racist slogans and waving Nazi symbols. Only one side has friends in the White House. Only one side drove a car into a crowd of PEACEFUL protesters killing a local resident.

http://www.snopes.com/2017/08/17/are-antifa-and-the-alt-right-equally-violent/

"Marilyn Mayo, senior research fellow for the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism, said that statistics show that radical leftists have been dramatically less likely to kill people than their counterparts on the opposite side of the political spectrum.

"Over the past decade, extremists of every stripe have killed 372 Americans. 74 percent of those killings were committed by right wing extremists. Only 2 percent of those deaths were at the hands of left wing extremists. Mayo told us:

"'I don’t want to give moral equivalence to the two sides because one side is fighting against white supremacy. On the Antifa side, they’ve never murdered anyone but there have been many murders done by white supremacists, so we have to be concerned about that movement.'"

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Hilarious. So I'm supposed to pretend a BLM savage didn't murder five cops in Dallas? Mmm... no thanks.

Oh and by the way, I've been looking for your poll about 86% of Republicans not wanting Civil war memorials torn down. I found it interesting there was no information on how many Democrats wanted them to remain. Furthermore, you're asking the wrong question. The real question is, should these silly statues be torn down by lawless thugs or done so through the legal process. Got any poll numbers on that? Didn't think so.

marvin martian said:

Which one was Robert Byrd?

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He was the corpse buried in the ground far from the scene.

Caroljo said:

No he didn't. You immediately attacked him for what he said in his TP BEFORE you knew it was deliberate.

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I concluded it was deliberate since it was written comments in a top post, where one would reasonable assume some care was taken with the phrasing. As you know, I turned out to be correct.

Arkady said:

I concluded it was deliberate since it was written comments in a top post, where one would reasonable assume some care was taken with the phrasing. As you know, I turned out to be correct.

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Yes, I deliberately used the words and thoughts of Bill Clinton. That has long been established. I am not sure why you continue to feel the need to bring it up, given it only reinforces that Bill Clinton doesn't think of blacks as ordinary Americans. Of course, that creates yet another problem for you- context. Given Bill Clinton was mentored by a well-known racist, supported the Confederate presence on the Arkansas state flag as governor, you really are just digging yourself into a deeper hole.

The Thinker said:

Yes, I deliberately used the words and thoughts of Bill Clinton. That has long been established. I am not sure why you continue to feel the need to bring it up, given it only reinforces that Bill Clinton doesn't think of blacks as ordinary Americans. Of course, that creates yet another problem for you- context. Given Bill Clinton was mentored by a well-known racist, supported the Confederate presence on the Arkansas state flag as governor, you really are just digging yourself into a deeper hole.

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You burned his ass and he can't believe a dummy out smarted him....

Same thing with the election...,
No way dummies beat us...
SB
Excellent job

Queen Titania said:

Wrong argument - One side had a permit to protest - the other side did not - the other side were violent, the Police stood back, the legal side fought back.

You believe in the 1st Amendment or you don't.

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Neither the First Amendment nor a parade permit allows armed demonstrators to march through black neighborhoods chanting racist epithets or drive a car into a crowd of peaceful protesters. The violence began as it always does with white supremacists who will likely pursue the same strategy in Boston on Saturday:

http://www.governing.com/topics/public-justice-safety/gov-charlottesville-police-protests-white-supremacists-free-speech.html?utm_content=buffer079ea&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

"The Boston free speech rally is part of a coordinated nine-city protest against tech giant Google's decision to fire a software engineer after he circulated a controversial 3,300-word memo against diversity. Other protests are planned for this Saturday in Atlanta, Austin, Los Angeles, New York, Pittsburgh, Seattle, Washington, D.C., and Mountain View, Calif.

"After the violence in Charlottesville, Boston's Democratic mayor initially vowed to stop the protest altogether."

YouCantHandleDaTruth said:

I watched it but I choose to believe the interfaith clergy and civil rights supporters instead of Nazi Terrorist in regards to what happened.

The Nazi terrorist started the riot and violence ...

Nazi terrorist sympathizers defend them here:

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Unless you can cite a terrorist act perpetrated by an American National Socialist group (as requested of you at least three times in the last two days), you should stop using the term "Nazi terrorist."

georgephillip said:

Neither the First Amendment nor a parade permit allows armed demonstrators to march through black neighborhoods chanting racist epithets or drive a car into a crowd of peaceful protesters. The violence began as it always does with white supremacists who will likely pursue the same strategy in Boston on Saturday

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The only demonstrators armed where a few with lawful carry permits and antifa counter-demonstrators.
The march was planned through public space, per legally obtained permit.
The violence was begun by counter-demonstrators, as video evidence at the scene demonstrates.
All lawfully organized and permitted protest actions by white rights advocacy groups are intended to be peaceful and law-abiding. All characterizations otherwise are incorrect.

georgephillip said:

Neither the First Amendment nor a parade permit allows armed demonstrators to march through black neighborhoods chanting racist epithets or drive a car into a crowd of peaceful protesters. The violence began as it always does with white supremacists who will likely pursue the same strategy in Boston on Saturday:

http://www.governing.com/topics/public-justice-safety/gov-charlottesville-police-protests-white-supremacists-free-
speech.html?utm_content=buffer079ea&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

"The Boston free speech rally is part of a coordinated nine-city protest against tech giant Google's decision to fire a software engineer after he circulated a controversial 3,300-word memo against diversity. Other protests are planned for this Saturday in Atlanta, Austin, Los Angeles, New York, Pittsburgh, Seattle, Washington, D.C., and Mountain View, Calif.

"After the violence in Charlottesville, Boston's Democratic mayor initially vowed to stop the protest altogether."

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I see. So now there's certain trigger words not protected by the First Amendment. Will you at least be consistent and state that black people walking through a white neighborhood ranting about "crackers" have also gone beyond their first amendment rights and should be assaulted?

Should "yo mama" jokes also be grounds for assault?

Where does it end?

The Thinker said:

Hilarious. So I'm supposed to pretend a BLM savage didn't murder five cops in Dallas? Mmm... no thanks.

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Is this what you mean?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers

"On July 7, 2016, Micah Xavier Johnson ambushed and fired upon a group of police officers in Dallas, Texas, killing five officers and injuring nine others.

"Two civilians were also wounded. Johnson was an Army Reserve Afghan War veteran who was reportedly angry over police shootings of black men and stated that he wanted to kill white people, especially white police officers.

"The shooting happened at the end of a protest against police killings of Alton Sterling in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and Philando Castile in Falcon Heights, Minnesota, which had occurred in the preceding days."

georgephillip said:

Is this what you mean?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers

"On July 7, 2016, Micah Xavier Johnson ambushed and fired upon a group of police officers in Dallas, Texas, killing five officers and injuring nine others.

"Two civilians were also wounded. Johnson was an Army Reserve Afghan War veteran who was reportedly angry over police shootings of black men and stated that he wanted to kill white people, especially white police officers.

"The shooting happened at the end of a protest against police killings of Alton Sterling in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and Philando Castile in Falcon Heights, Minnesota, which had occurred in the preceding days."

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Yeah, that's the guy. I wonder why your article doesn't mention Black Lives Matter.

The Thinker said:

I see. So now there's certain trigger words not protected by the First Amendment. Will you at least be consistent and state that black people walking through a white neighborhood ranting about "crackers" have also gone beyond their first amendment rights and should be assaulted?

Should "yo mama" jokes also be grounds for assault?

Where does it end?

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Ask Deandre Harris. (or his mama)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/charlottesville-deandre-harris-black-protester-white-supremacists-beat-metal-poles-neo-nazis-a7894916.html

"Charlottesville: Black protester Deandre Harris ‘beaten with metal poles’ by white supremacists
The 20-year-old was left bloodied with a broken wrist and needing eight staples for his wounds"

The Thinker said:

Yeah, that's the guy. I wonder why your article doesn't mention Black Lives Matter.

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What connection does the US Army vet have with BLM?

georgephillip said:

What connection does the US Army vet have with BLM?

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He was at a BLM protest, so obviously was a supporter. Then of course there's the fact that BLM has called for the murder of cops:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=black+lives+matter+we+want+dead+cops+

georgephillip said:

Ask Deandre Harris. (or his mama)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/charlottesville-deandre-harris-black-protester-white-supremacists-beat-metal-poles-neo-nazis-a7894916.html

"Charlottesville: Black protester Deandre Harris ‘beaten with metal poles’ by white supremacists
The 20-year-old was left bloodied with a broken wrist and needing eight staples for his wounds"

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Or his mama..... hee hee hee. Nice touch, my good man.

Emily said:

The only demonstrators armed where a few with lawful carry permits and antifa counter-demonstrators.
The march was planned through public space, per legally obtained permit.
The violence was begun by counter-demonstrators, as video evidence at the scene demonstrates.
All lawfully organized and permitted protest actions by white rights advocacy groups are intended to be peaceful and law-abiding. All characterizations otherwise are incorrect.

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"More than $118,000 (£91,700) has been raised for an African American man who was brutally beaten by a group of white supremacists in a horrific attack in Charlottesville.

"Shocking pictures and footage were captured of Deandre Harris being chased by a gang of white men before he was savagely beaten with what appear to be poles at the protests in Virginia this weekend, leaving him needing hospital treatment.

"The 20-year-old was left covered in blood with a broken wrist and needing eight staples for his head wounds when the attack happened in a parking garage near Charlottesville police station.

"Images of his bloodied face and the wounds he sustained have been shared on social media."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/charlottesville-deandre-harris-black-protester-white-supremacists-beat-metal-poles-neo-nazis-a7894916.html

The Nazi's who came to Charlottesville last weekend came to instigate violence and then use the resulting video evidence as a recruitment tool.

They will likely resort to the same tactics tomorrow in Boston.

White supremacy was born dead, and it won't be making a return in this country.

The Thinker said:

Hahahahahahaha... I knew I'd snare at least one leftist with that "ordinary Americans" line. I was using the thoughts and words of Bill Clinton. Furthermore, I believe most blacks, like most Americans of every other race, are "ordinary Americans". Clearly Bill Clinton does NOT think blacks are "ordinary Americans":

"But if you look at it, I mean, African-Americans watch the same news at night that ordinary Americans do."

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=49416

As for the rally, why wouldn't a good person show up for a "unite the right" rally? Would you also assume a "unite the left" rally would have no good people showing up?

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They are all...to a man poisoned by the trickle down of Alinskyism from the sixties. One of the tell tale signs is the total absence of any reflective critical thinking. I say once again browse the MBTU's ... you will find les than .1%....not even 1......one tenth!!!....of one percent of the rhetoric is reflective. That is really all one needs to know to take all of it as a whole and realize that it is apologia totally devoid of real honesty.

Look through conservative MBTU....you will find up to half of it concerned with reflective critical thinking.

Alinksy's most basic rule is never admit......NEVER....and they follow it like automatons.



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I said that the violence was begun by antifa counter-demonstrators, and will stand by that until shown otherwise. That demonstrators from the lawful protest rally engaged in any act of violence other than in self-defense is terrible and shameful. It doesn't prove anything about who turned the rally violent.

georgephillip said:

The Nazi's who came to Charlottesville last weekend came to instigate violence and then use the resulting video evidence as a recruitment tool.
They will likely resort to the same tactics tomorrow in Boston.

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The "Nazis" in Charlottesville have a strict policy mandating non-violence and lawful behavior. Any individuals who engaged in non-defensive violence either weren't members of a participating Nationalist Front or National Socialist group or were in violation of their stated, written, and enforced policy.

georgephillip said:

White supremacy was born dead, and it won't be making a return in this country.

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I agree.
White Supremacy isn't the same as White Nationalism.
White Nationalism is already making a return in this country.

The Thinker said:

I am not sure why you continue to feel the need to bring it up

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I bring it up because people continue to ask why I have left open the possibility that with Clinton it was just an innocent slip of the tongue, while I don't leave that possibility open with regard to you. The reason, obviously, is that you've admitted it wasn't an innocent slip of the tongue by you. You chose that racist phrasing very consciously. Whether Clinton did so is something I don't have enough information to take a position on.

Look through conservative MBTU....you will find up to half of it concerned with reflective critical thinking.

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I've seen a great deal of critical reflection among liberal posters here, but not a bit by conservatives.

Emily said:

Unless you can cite a terrorist act perpetrated by an American National Socialist group (as requested of you at least three times in the last two days), you should stop using the term "Nazi terrorist."

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soooooooo, murdering someone with a car for the sake of political stances isn't terrorism?

really?!!?

Oh wait, you're going to try and distinguish between the Nazis, KKK, White nationalist, ISIS and Al queda.... be my guest