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Hey Gopers you did better this time. Only 18 million will lose coverage .

JackDallas

Senator
Supporting Member
Opinion not fact is at the top of your source.



Now you use an anonymously written attack piece that attacks them without posting any facts that show they were actually wrong.
Problem with your comment is that Forbes has shown everything Obama said, or tried to do, was either a lie or the the work of an incompetent moron. Everything he did failed miserably. Apparently you are the only person in the country who hasn't heard this, or won't admit it.
 

Spamature

President
Problem with your comment is that Forbes has shown everything Obama said, or tried to do, was either a lie or the the work of an incompetent moron. Everything he did failed miserably. Apparently you are the only person in the country who hasn't heard this, or won't admit it.
First they talk about the exchanges but it does not mention the efforts the GOP went through to harm the exchanges. You can't fault the CBO for not taking into account deliberate sabotage.

Then it talks about risk corridors without mentioning this:

Marco Rubio: We 'wiped out' Obamacare 'bailout fund' for insurance

Then it discusses the individual mandate and enrollment numbers.
That was discussed in the factcheck article.



And whatever the failings of CBO’s predictions, they were closer to the mark than those of the Obama administration and some other prominent forecasters.

Then it talks about medicaid expanse. Factcheck sums it up like this

So to a large extent, CBO’s mistake was in estimating where the uninsured would get covered, not how many of them would gain coverage.


Finally they over estimated economic expansion. That really isn't about healthcare coverage. But if they were predicting a 4.2% in GDP someone was smoking something illegal when they made that estimate. I wonder if that claim against the CBO in regards to the ACA is even true
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
WTF ? Even if that were true are you saying Muslim Arabs can't be black ? I suppose you believe there are no such thing as Black Jews either ?

Trump is a modern day slaver. So you modern gopers VOTED for slavery last year. Racism isn't just a stain on the modern gop. It's a birth mark.
How many African-Arabs you know?

I hadn't mentioned Jews!

LMAO,,,,,,,Democrats formed KKK and you evidently know nothing about birthmarks a nd all the Slave Plantations in the South were owned by Democrats or Blacks........
 

Spamature

President
How many African-Arabs you know?

I hadn't mentioned Jews!

LMAO,,,,,,,Democrats formed KKK and you evidently know nothing about birthmarks a nd all the Slave Plantations in the South were owned by Democrats or Blacks........
You mean like these ?

 

JuliefromOhio

President
Supporting Member
Obama knew once the PPACA was understood, in time the public would expect these benefits, essential services and it would be just as hard for Republicans to abolish as SS and Medicare.
That Obama, the long thinker, will be remembered in the history books for this major achievement.
 

bdtex

Administrator
Staff member
So you'd decided out of kindness, or desperation, to potentially take fewer lives with you in this latest suicide attempt.



New study shows the Republican healthcare bill would leave up to 18 million more without insurance by 2019


Sep. 20, 2017, 2:34 PM


Mitch McConnell J. Scott Applewhite/AP Images


The latest push by Republican to repeal and replace Obamacare would leave millions more without health insurance and likely cause costs to rise for Americans in the individual insurance market, according to a study published Wednesday.

  • 5-18 million more uninsured in 2019: The bill's repeal of the individual mandate, which compels people to sign up for insurance, would have immediate effects when it goes into place in 2019. Based on previous CBO scores of similar provisions, the jump in the number of people without insurance compared to the current system would be as high as 18 million in the first year.
  • 32 million more people uninsured after 2026: The bill also would shift funding for Obamacare's Medicaid expansion and individual insurance market subsidies into a lump sum given to states every year. The bill, however, simply cuts off those grants after 2026. Commonwealth said the roughly 32 million people projected to be beneficiaries of these programs would simply be cut off after that date.
  • Significantly higher premiums: Commonwealth also said previous CBO breakdowns of a mandate repeal showed premiums increases of 15% to 20% in the first year. "The majority of that increase would come from the repeal of the mandate penalties: insurers would expect that those who remained in the pool would be the least healthy," Collins wrote.
  • Undercut protections for people with preexisting conditions: States could apply for waivers to relax some of Obamacare's regulations if it brings down costs. While the bill does say the state has to continue to provide "adequate and affordable" coverage for people with preexisting conditions, Commonwealth said the leeway for the waivers could lead to the elimination of Obamacare's protections for these people. "It would allow states to apply for waivers that would let insurers charge people with health problems higher premiums, and change other ACA consumer protections such as bans on lifetime benefit limits and comprehensive coverage requirements," Commonwealth said.

A Congressional Budget Office score that includes the full effects of the bill on insurance coverage and individuals' cost burdens will not be ready in time for a vote. Republicans can only pass it without being blocked by a Democratic filibuster until the end of the month.


http://www.businessinsider.com/graham-cassidy-health-care-bill-how-many-lose-insurance-coverage-2017-9
21M from 2020-2026:

https://www.brookings.edu/research/how-will-the-graham-cassidy-proposal-affect-the-number-of-people-with-health-insurance-coverage/
 

Spamature

President
And apparently these are the low ball numbers that don't included all the people who also won't get insurance in the future. Also I doubt if it takes into account the people who drop insurance when they drop the mandate to get insurance.

Back to the good old days closing emergency rooms because people are stiffing the hospitals after ER visits. And hello medical bills being 75% of all personal bankruptcies.
 

bdtex

Administrator
Staff member
And apparently these are the low ball numbers that don't included all the people who also won't get insurance in the future. Also I doubt if it takes into account the people who drop insurance when they drop the mandate to get insurance.

Back to the good old days closing emergency rooms because people are stiffing the hospitals after ER visits. And hello medical bills being 75% of all personal bankruptcies.
This GOP Congress can't do anything and Trump/Pence are Statler and Waldorf.
 

Spamature

President
This GOP Congress can't do anything and Trump/Pence are Statler and Waldorf.
They can they just can't do this. Get unfettered access to the money they take from these programs to fund a tax cut without Dem input. They don't get the tax cut unless they get these funds by the 29th. So they do not care what they have to do to do it. Either they pay off their donors or the donors walk away checkbooks in hand. This has absolutely nothing to do with healthcare and never did. This has to do with not increasing deficit with their tax cut. Because they would need Dem support to do that.
 

Dawg

President
Supporting Member

Dawg

President
Supporting Member
Many on OCare can't find doctors that take OCare and when they do they can't afford the cost even with OCare and soon ALL w/OCare will have nothing when it dies from it's own faults.......

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/03/16/let-it-die-what-if-the-gop-just-waited-for-obamacare-to-wither-on-the-vine/?utm_term=.28b8d5441443
 
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