Some justice.... so peace ?

Bugsy McGurk said:

It’s telling that you had to do extensive research to find anything even approaching what you said.

Your proposition was that you were aware of guilty verdicts as to police shootings of unarmed people, to which you did not object. You came up empty in that regard. If your point had any validity, you would have been aware of such cases without the need to do research.

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Dino said:

That's yet another HUGE lie.
I certainly supported a verdict against Slager from the very beginning. There's no way that approached a legal shooting.
I also supported a verdict against the BART platform shooting. That was a gross misuse of lethal force.
Both of these cases were heavily publicized, and I saw no other just verdict than guilty in both.
As was this one: Sean Groubert:

You can't pretend you didn't see this video or see it debated here. I knew this guy needed to plead out. So that's three strikes huh?

Your idiotic presumption was that these sorts of events are common and the police get away with them. I already told you that was a lie.
Now you're lying to cover up your laziness and ignorance.

Kinda sad, you used to lie much better than this.

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Bugsy McGurk said:

They were so “heavily publicized” and known to you that you had to do web research to learn about them? You couldn’t point to those cases on the spot?

That’s your story and you’re sticking to it?

;-)

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Dino said:

Knew this shoot was bad from the beginning. Slow runner, no apparent threat, moving evidence... showing deliberate intent and horrible judgment. Good riddance to someone who made us look bad.


From the Wash Post:
Former South Carolina police officer who shot Walter Scott sentenced to 20 years

The former South Carolina police officer who shot and killed Walter Scott, an unarmed black man, following a traffic stop was sentenced Thursday to 20 years behind bars in a federal case stemming from the shooting.
Michael Slager, who had been an officer with the North Charleston police, was charged with murder in state court and indicted on federal civil rights charges after the shooting in 2015. His murder trial ended with a deadlocked jury last year, and prosecutors had vowed to retry Slager in state court.

But earlier this year, Slager pleaded guilty to a single federal civil rights charge as part of a plea deal that resolved both cases. A judge sentenced him to 20 years in prison, according to the Associated Press, which had a reporter at the sentencing.

Under the terms of the plea agreement announced in May, Slager pleaded guilty to one count of violating Scott’s rights under color of law, and prosecutors said they would push for a judge to apply sentencing guidelines for second-degree murder and obstruction of justice.

Slager could have faced a life sentence, but prosecutors also said as part of the plea deal that they would recommend that his sentence be reduced due to his “acceptance of responsibility.”

Scott’s death in April 2015 became among the most high-profile police shootings in recent years due to graphic video that later emerged. In the recording, which was captured by a bystander, the 50-year-old Scott was seen hurrying away as the officer fired a volley of rounds at the driver’s back.

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Dino said:

So this is where you pretend not to be wrong/dishonest by ignoring well-publicized stories and video?

Greeeat strategy.

I told you I'd wait til other people would be here to see how laughably dishonest you were being. And hey, I didn't lie.

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Bugsy McGurk said:

Your story is entirely unconvincing for the reasons I mentioned. The overall reaction...

;-)

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Arkady said:

Something worth thinking about is how it would have looked if there hadn't been a bystander taking footage. My guess is that the prosecutors would have taken the friendliest possible view of the physical evidence and there wouldn't even have been an indictment. Unfortunately, in most police shootings, there aren't going to be such smoking guns.

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Dino said:

And that folks... is how you earn the title "Shameless Liar".

You tell him the truth and he flatly denies it.
You show him the truth and he necessarily ignores it.

Bugs you're a serious psych case. Definitely pathological, quite possibly sociopathic.

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Dino said:

If you had any shame whatsoever you'd be embarrassed by your laziness and ignorance. Shouldn't you even look things up before spouting off like a loon?

In fact, 26 officers have been convicted of murder or manslaughter in the past 11 years. Of course, the police receive no more protection for unwarranted beatings, conspiracy, extortion, or sexual assault. There have been hundreds of arrests and convictions for these violations also.

So what have we proven? Simple people like yourself are only curious enough to hear about the police killing "unarmed" men when they do it, and don't bother to keep listening for other details of the case or the case's disposition.


PORTSMOUTH, Va. (WAVY) — A jury on Thursday found former Portsmouth police officer Stephen Rankin guilty of voluntary manslaughter in the 2015 shooting death of William Chapman II

http://wavy.com/2016/08/03/stephen-rankin-murder-trial-day-6/

A jury found former BART police Officer Johannes Mehserle guilty Thursday of involuntary manslaughter

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Mehserle-convicted-of-involuntary-manslaughter-3181861.php

A jury in New York has convicted NYPD Officer Peter Liang of manslaughter over his shooting of an unarmed black man in a dark stairwell in 2014

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/12/466520796/nyc-police-officer-found-guilty-of-manslaughter-in-shooting-of-unarmed-man

MARKSVILLE, LA (WAFB) -

Derrick Stafford was sentenced Friday, March 31 to 40 years in prison in connection with a shooting in which a 6-year-old boy was killed and his father was injured.

Derrick Stafford and Norris Greenhouse Jr. are accused of shooting and killing a six year old boy and critically wounding his father after a car chase on November 3, 2015 in Marksville, LA.


The 33-year-old former deputy marshal was sentenced to 40 years for manslaughter and 15 years for attempted manslaughter

http://www.wafb.com/story/36484279/former-deputy-marshal-norris-greenhouse-jr-avoids-trial-by-pleading-guilty-in-shooting-death-of-marksville-6-year-old
MARKSVILLE, LA (WAFB) -

Norris Greenhouse Jr. has pleaded guilty to negligent homicide and malfeasance in the shooting death of Jeremy Mardis, 6, in November 2015 and will serve 7.5 years behind bars consecutively

http://filmingcops.com/boynton-beach-police-officer-found-guilty-beating-unarmed-man/

A jury found Boynton Beach police officer Mike Brown guilty on Thursday of using excessive force in the beating of an unarmed man who was a passenger in a car that led police on a high-speed chase.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/10/19/white-ex-tulsa-police-officer-convicted-of-fatally-shooting-daughters-black-boyfriend/?utm_term=.4d3bdc10bd28

Shannon Kepler, 57, who is white, was found guilty in his fourth trial on a first-degree murder charge for the August 2014 shooting of Jeremey Lake, who was black.

The 44-year-old man was shot in Tulsa, Oklahoma, by Robert Bates, a volunteer reserve sheriff deputy for the county sheriff's office in April 2015. Officers were conducting a sting operation to try to catch Harris illegally selling a gun and had pursed, then tackled him when Bates fired his pistol into Harris' back. Bates, 74, said he had meant to use his Taser, not his revolver.
Outcome: Bates found guilty of second-degree manslaughter.

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Dino said:

That's yet another HUGE lie.
I certainly supported a verdict against Slager from the very beginning. There's no way that approached a legal shooting.
I also supported a verdict against the BART platform shooting. That was a gross misuse of lethal force.
Both of these cases were heavily publicized, and I saw no other just verdict than guilty in both.
As was this one: Sean Groubert:

You can't pretend you didn't see this video or see it debated here. I knew this guy needed to plead out. So that's three strikes huh?

Your idiotic presumption was that these sorts of events are common and the police get away with them. I already told you that was a lie.
Now you're lying to cover up your laziness and ignorance.

Kinda sad, you used to lie much better than this.

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Dino said:

Knew this shoot was bad from the beginning. Slow runner, no apparent threat, moving evidence... showing deliberate intent and horrible judgment. Good riddance to someone who made us look bad.


From the Wash Post:
Former South Carolina police officer who shot Walter Scott sentenced to 20 years

The former South Carolina police officer who shot and killed Walter Scott, an unarmed black man, following a traffic stop was sentenced Thursday to 20 years behind bars in a federal case stemming from the shooting.
Michael Slager, who had been an officer with the North Charleston police, was charged with murder in state court and indicted on federal civil rights charges after the shooting in 2015. His murder trial ended with a deadlocked jury last year, and prosecutors had vowed to retry Slager in state court.

But earlier this year, Slager pleaded guilty to a single federal civil rights charge as part of a plea deal that resolved both cases. A judge sentenced him to 20 years in prison, according to the Associated Press, which had a reporter at the sentencing.

Under the terms of the plea agreement announced in May, Slager pleaded guilty to one count of violating Scott’s rights under color of law, and prosecutors said they would push for a judge to apply sentencing guidelines for second-degree murder and obstruction of justice.

Slager could have faced a life sentence, but prosecutors also said as part of the plea deal that they would recommend that his sentence be reduced due to his “acceptance of responsibility.”

Scott’s death in April 2015 became among the most high-profile police shootings in recent years due to graphic video that later emerged. In the recording, which was captured by a bystander, the 50-year-old Scott was seen hurrying away as the officer fired a volley of rounds at the driver’s back.

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Spamature said:

If shooting was the other way around. Scott probably would have gotten the death penalty.

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EatTheRich said:

The only difference between these cases and many other officer - involved shootings was the presence of video evidence.

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Dino said:

How’s that “the only difference”? Absurd response.

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EatTheRich said:

If a cop shoots a handcuffed, unresisting person in the back but is not caught on video, bootlickers get very creative explaining why it just must have been justified ... prosecutors do their best to avoid indictment, in violation of their fiduciary responsibilities to the public ... and they almost inevitably skate ... no matter how many witnesses independently tell the same story.

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Dino said:

Nope. That’s a lie.
You know how I know? Only because it’s the truth cops get fired, charged and convicted for shooting suspects without videotaped evidence. Sorry, but you’re just simply wrong.
If I had any question about that I’d say show me all the videotaped evidence used to convicted the three or so police who are found guilty of manslaughter or murder each year. But I already know you can’t, so why bother?

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EatTheRich said:

3 or so out of dozens convicted every year ... due to protest movements ... and over the howls of rage of pro-cop bootlickers.

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freyasman said:

ETR, most of us want to live in a safe and orderly society, and we are adult enough to understand that that means we will have to have some form of LE. We want to support these guys, but we also understand that some of them are going to be bad guys, and some of them will just fvck up from time to time. There is no easy fix to this shit.
A lot of us have been to, or lived in, places where there is no semblance of a professional LE presence.... you don't want to go there.

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EatTheRich said:

Agreed. But it is a recipe for abuse when the law serves a ruling class and not the masses.

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EatTheRich said:

3 or so out of dozens convicted every year ... due to protest movements ... and over the howls of rage of pro-cop bootlickers.

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